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TADAH!

Page 15 is completed! And if you're a 
Patreon backer of $5 or higher you can see a WIP speedpaint of this page!



If you want to, you can commission me at JESPOLDEN@GMAIL.COM!

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BurstXShadowzX Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2017  Student Filmographer
ZANNY YES 
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ZannyHyper Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
JIMMY YES! >D
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BurstXShadowzX Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2017  Student Filmographer
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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jadethestone Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Man, this really was a gut punch! Nicely done.

Though, I may be missing something or forgetting something, but why exactly did the Pokemon center refuse Jamie service? If it's something that hasn't been explained yet, then you don't have to tell me. But if it's something that I forgot a while back, please let me know.
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ZannyHyper Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
I'll be explaining a bit more properly in the next page, since a few people have been curious about that (I thought it was obvious but again I'm the creator so obviously it's obvious to me XD)

But the quick short version, this world has the technology of the 90s but the mindset of the 40s, and Jamie is openly gay. (Hence why Gary is comfortable with calling him the F word so easily etc.) but I'll explain this better in the next page!

But I'm glad you liked the page xD also thank you for raising your concern bout being confused, this feedback helps me gauge my writing and how much or how little info I'm putting an if people are confused or not.

So thank you!
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jadethestone Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Okay. I guess I thought it was something like that. I just thought that that particular reaction was a bit idk, extreme? Like I know that there are assholes out there, but it felt a little bit on the nose, I guess. And it would also have to mean that Jamie being gay was put on some sort of notice or registry or something, which also seemed a bit out there for me.

The commentary on bigotry in that particular case lacked nuance and felt like a way to rub salt in our wounds (or Jamie's wounds) rather than something that made sense. To me at least.

For comparison, Gary's bigotry and bullying has that nuance since you get the feeling that it comes from a source of self doubt, self loathing, and jealousy. To me, the Pokemon center refusing service to Jamie because he's gay comes out of nowhere, since you haven't firmly established in any way, that this sort of behavior is common beyond Gary.

But then again, if you have done so, and I've simply forgotten, then I'm sorry for not remembering. It's been a while since I read your older pages. Sorry to get into a big thing over this or be too nitpicky. I like your comic a lot! It's just this one moment where I kind of lost some suspension of disbelief. 

(I also concede that part of it may be because I'm ignorant. I'm not gay, so I don't know what it is like to be discriminated against in such a way)
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ZannyHyper Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
Oh, firstly don't apologise about being nitpicky (since, well this is the first time xD) and I like the feedback, it helps me figure out where my weaknesses are and how to improve them!

And yeah, I realised I hadn't yet shown the bigotry of the world, and though this was a good place to start, also to state a fact, Jamie isn't on a registry or nothing like that, but somebody (you can probably guess who but I won't say names cause we WILL find out in Lavender Tower) who tipped her off (and why she even had a photo of him) sorry it knocked you out of your suspension of disbelief though! (I wasn't sure how else to bring in the bigotry aspect and this was the closet place I could find)

Again thank you for the feedback it's super welcome! (And nah that's cool, the reason it's so extreme is cause their mindset is that of the 1940s, when segregation was a thing and all that "fun bigotry shit" *groans at the past* again this will be the start of, exploring that aspect a bit more I just needed a starting off point. Also this isn't representive of today's problems with LGBT folk, but then again it might be EEH Im getting to PC here but yeah I hope that clears it up abit and that there will be answers for why she was so extreme etc.)
Sorry
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jadethestone Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Ok, cool. :)

That makes a lot more sense.

I get what you mean about not being sure how to bring up world-building stuff. I mean, I personally have trouble with that, too. And also it's difficult to guess what readers will understand or not, especially when you (the writer) already understand everything. It's a difficult line to walk between being overly subtle and overly in-your-face when talking about aspects of your world.

Either way, props for bringing up things like LGBT rights, and anxiety and depression in your comic. Just be careful to make the audience aware of the setting in which these issues are being addressed in. ;)

I look forward to reading more and seeing how Jamie and the team handle Mint's death.
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Yuriakashu Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yay to the nice elderly person at the end there, but N O to everything else. Just. O W, my fucking heart.
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ZannyHyper Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
Guess this town isn't entirely full of dead beats huh!

And I did warn people today's page would be a gut punch in an unexpected way |'D
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1606483 Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2017  Student Artist
Undertale - Mad Angry Chara might explode Sasami Sasasegawa (Mad) [V7] WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ciel Phantomhive (Right Eye) [V3] I WILL KILL GRAY!!!!!!!!creepy face - undertale chat icon - chara 
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ZannyHyper Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
LOL
PLEASE DON'T KILL GRAY MY IRL FRIEND IS CALLED GRAY 8'D

Also beat the shit out of Gary all ya want kid needs a bitch slap xD

Guessing you liked the page?
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viathatoneartist Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2017  Student Digital Artist
D:
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ZannyHyper Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
>D
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