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Read on all artists that use a computer to create their art. If you use Windows 10 then you have a potential problem that could cause you to LOSE ALL YOUR ART.

ALERT: Windows 10 October Update (1809) BUG - synchronisation issue causes deletion of ALL your data within the user profile structure (MY DOCUMENTS &c). Affects Windows 10 HOME and PRO versions.

UPDATE: - Microsoft have removed the update after many users have had ALL their files deleted. By the way, Microsoft knew that Windows was deleting files, they had known for months that it was doing this and they still rolled out the update.

UPDATE: - The update will now become the NOVEMBER UPDATE and it will be tested thoroughly - we hope. Regardless, the advice below is still recommended

Do not upgrade your PC, turn off Windows auto-update or if you don't know what you are doing do not turn on your PC (to avoid the auto-update) and only turn it on in a few days when you know Microsoft have sorted the problem.

The problem appears to be related to an obscure setting which allows Windows to delete old user profiles. It may have some connection with ONEDRIVE and is mooted to be a synchronisation issue. According to sources, Windows has been deleting all files in the users "my documents" folder that are not linked to ONEDRIVE.

This is a seriously big mistake that makes using the Windows profile utterly unreliable (but I knew that anyway).

My suggestion is that you manually take all of your data (NOW) and remove it from the Windows profile structure immediately. Instead of storing all your data in MY_documents and MY_videos &c, you place all of your data in another location outside of the Windows user profile area. Those profile locations are typically mapped below c:\users\username ...

Instead create your own set of folders, for example:

c:\videos
c:\music
c:\stuff
c:\letters
c:\downloads

Perhaps a set of folders under your own name and located on another drive/partition:

d:\beelzebub\videos
d:\beelzebub\music
d:\beelzebub\stuff
d:\beelzebub\letters
d:\beelzebub\downloads

(Change Beelzebub for your own name!).

Move your files, data and all to these alternate locations and keep them there forever. AVOID using the Windows profile area for any storage of any important data at all. Profile loss caused by the incompetence of Microsoft is just the latest in a series of potential issues that can affect a profile. Profile corruption is a regular if infrequent occurrence and you don't want it to happen to you.

Please take great care when moving your data, it is times like this when user errors occur that can compound with another problem and thence cause a disaster...

Top tip No.1: From this point onward, never place any important data within a Windows profile, complete data loss will result - eventually. Profile corruption is the worst to be feared. As I have always stated, never place your data within a Windows profile structure - as sooner or later you will lose everything to the Demon God Microsoft.

IF you have backed up your data as I suggested here: www.deviantart.com/yereverluvi… then at least you have a safety net. If you haven't backed up your data and you have auto-updates enabled by default (almost everyone does as it practically impossible to turn auto-update off these days) and you have Onedrive installed and running (practically all windows 10 users do) then there is a good chance you will lose your data.

Final advice. Find out how to remove/uninstall ONEDRIVE, there are better solutions, avoid it, dropbox is my recommendation and there is Google backup  (slow and inefficient, used to be called Google Drive) but Onedrive has been removed from every Windows 10 PC in my control.

Links:

1. How to turn off Windows updates in two steps:
www.thewindowsclub.com/turn-of…
www.thewindowsclub.com/windows…

2. How to remove Onedrive
lifehacker.com/how-to-complete…

3. How to install Dropbox
www.dropbox.com/help/desktop-w…

4. How to backup your PC easily -
www.deviantart.com/yereverluvi…

5. Useful utility to restore your files
www.aumha.org/downloads/restor…
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DaveBreck Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2018
I always back up my work to an external drive but thank you for the heads up :)
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yereverluvinuncleber Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2018  Professional Interface Designer
Always wise!
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LeaWiggins Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2018
Windows 7 and updates are off!  Appreciate it though!  
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yereverluvinuncleber Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2018  Professional Interface Designer
Of course, you have it all in hand. I am going through all my family's Win10 systems and disabling each and every one.
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LeaWiggins Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2018
:thumbsup:  That is very cool of you to do!  The world does not have a right to our privacy!  
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CapnDeek373 Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2018  Professional General Artist
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yereverluvinuncleber Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2018  Professional Interface Designer
Quite!
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compass-uk Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2018  Hobbyist Artist
Outstanding!
Yet another great justification for my failure to migrate to Windows 10.
It looks like Windows 7 is the last reasonable iteration.
As you said, 8 was rubbish, and 10 is a mine-field.
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yereverluvinuncleber Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2018  Professional Interface Designer
Ha! I am sitting here in my friendly Win7 environment and not suffering the pain of Win10 too. Let it last as long as it can.
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compass-uk Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2018  Hobbyist Artist
I'll be keeping an eye on ReactOS in the upcoming year or so.
It is still in alpha, but does look promising. I watched a demo of Photoshop 5.5 installed and run, and an older version of Firefox.
I am reticent to leave Windows due to the investment of software, so this may turn out to be a viable path, until Micro$oft start to play sensible again…
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yereverluvinuncleber Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2018  Professional Interface Designer
Reactos may run but most likely not on your hardware. You'd have to buy hardware that matches ReactOS requirements and that would be XP style hardware not modern boxes. You can run it in a VM with Kubuntu or similar as the host on a quad or octacore system and have plenty of power. ReactOS will run one cpu only. It may run one application in a stable fashion per CPU but not much more. In a year it will be better but not a great deal better. Perhaps USB, perhaps NTFS, perhaps more stable.
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compass-uk Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2018  Hobbyist Artist
I was given the impression that ReactOS would evolve into a Windows alternative, not just something to run in a virtual machine.
But it is only Alpha, and is currently only designed to run from its ISO image, so who knows where it will end up?
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yereverluvinuncleber Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2018  Professional Interface Designer
Correct, but reality is a different thing. You may not have the full picture. I will explain.

Development takes time and the aim is NT5 server.

ReactOS is compatible with the drivers and software built for that o/s. That is the aim. New hardware will not be making drivers for an old o/s so only older drivers can be used. The old drivers are for old hardware.

For ReactOS to be compatible with new hardware, new drivers need to be written for ReactOS by the hardware manufacturers. In effect they are are being asked to create drivers for NT5.2 or XP. They are not going to make drivers for that o/s that would also be compatible with ReactOS. They are only making drivers for Win7/10 now.

The remit of making drivers is beyond the capability of ReactOS devs.
Do you see the problem?

The longer ReactOS takes to complete then the greater the issue with new hardware.

This is what will happen. ReactOS will become stable for VM use, older hardware will become scarce. As ReactOS becomes popular people may write open source drivers for certain bits of kit. If ReactOS ever becomes very popular, some hardware mfg-ers may create drivers of their own for ReactOS.

Being pessimistic though, remember the tools for writing those drivers will be ageing too and out of support, so the chances diminish as time progresses.

ReactOS then has the choice of adopting a later kernel and then all the development that entails and years of effort and then... windows will have moved on.

So, virtual environment is likely to be the only reality for ReactOS.
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compass-uk Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2018  Hobbyist Artist
Oh well.
If ReactOS is a non-starter to run natively, and Windows 7 becomes untenable, then maybe I'll be heading in a Linux direction.
Win 7 is still supported until 2020, so there is a bit of time left.
Maybe Android (or its successor) will arrive on a larger platform by then. I can see Google attempting to push Microsoft to one side. MS has already 'dropped the ball' on the mobile front. A few more screw-ups like this, and they may take serious damage on the PC front too. And there's no way Apple are going to get any interest from me, that boat sailed 30 years ago…
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yereverluvinuncleber Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2018  Professional Interface Designer
There is a chance ReactOS may be usable by then (but not beta) and if you have an old lappie (like me) core2duo Dell 5540 then it should run on that and approximately 50% quicker when loading &c. My suggestion would be to buy a very good quality secondhand Dell laptop with a decent dual core cpu, a couple of 1TB SATA drives and then put it aside ready for ReactOS. Use it for testing that o/s and make a decision as to when it might be usable for you. This lappie flies! and if it had a stable version of ReactOS then it would really move. ReactOs is so quick to load it is unbelievable.
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yereverluvinuncleber Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2018  Professional Interface Designer
Yes, that might be the impression and eventually it may be a possibility (5 years or so) but within one year they are not going to be able to support ANY of the newer hardware, it isn't even one of their goals. They might make steps towards base system stability and functionality and that means support for known hardware that XP also ran upon. In truth, the speed of development probably means that you will be running it in a virtual environment well before any real hardware support. It is likely that any compatible target hardware will become hard to find well before ReactOS is in beta.
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PassMater Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2018  Hobbyist Artist
hey guys looks like some users who lost the data due to October update 2018 recovered it back using Recuva successfully
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yereverluvinuncleber Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2018  Professional Interface Designer
That's some comfort. Anything that can be deleted can be recovered but it is beyond the capabilities of many, the poor chaps shouldn't have to go through with it in the first place.
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Small-Brown-Dog Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2018
Better still never use Win10!
I'll go Linux before I go anywhere near that.

As a rule I have kept my data on a seperate drive to that of the O/S ever since a nasty moment back in the days of Win95
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yereverluvinuncleber Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2018  Professional Interface Designer
Most don't know that unfortunately. I have Win 7 ultimate - and like you - will not be moving, Win8 was an abomination too far.
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Small-Brown-Dog Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2018
I was so annoyed I had to go to Win 8.1 if I wanted to take advantage of SDD boot.
To be honest I wonder if there was any point.

On slightly different note I found this of interest:
www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/0…
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yereverluvinuncleber Featured By Owner Edited Oct 6, 2018  Professional Interface Designer
Good article, I was using the predecessor to the internet in approx. 1985-6, based upon something called Arpanet, we were using a protocol called X.25 to share email and have conversations via text across the boundaries of companies/corporations. You needed an X.25 address and a dedicated phone line with a Hayes 2400/4800 modem continuously connected just as you have a dedicated broadband connection today.

We used a program called 'phone' on VMS. We could send and attach documents, email each other continuously online, and have internet-like text-based chats way before anyone had even heard of the internet all via a X.25 connection that connected our two separate networks (what we would call an intranet now). No browsing the web as there was no equivalent but all those other activities we were using daily in the late 80s.
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yereverluvinuncleber Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2018  Professional Interface Designer
That should not have been the case, I have booted win 7 from SSD in the past. XP was a problem in that you could not exploit all the up-to-date features of an SSD but you could still boot from one and it was still significantly faster. I got around the problems of SSD long term reliability whilst still having faster boot times by installing a hybrid SSD/hard drive, Seagate and the like. Massive speed up in boot times and the reliability/low cost of a HD.
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RT912 Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
This is why I have a PC and a laptop with a Two-Disk setup: One SSD for the windows files and the extra HDD for all my own files etc.
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yereverluvinuncleber Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2018  Professional Interface Designer
Good for you - sensible.

Read my piece on backups though, remember a copy is NOT a backup. If the corruption is in your data unknown to you, making a copy just replicates the corruption onto your safe places that are no longer safe.
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RT912 Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
That's why I also have data saved on USB-sticks and external drives. 
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yereverluvinuncleber Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2018  Professional Interface Designer
First class - I am preaching to the converted.
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