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XP Desktop on broken and 10 year old hardware

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After building my perfect retro system from old and tossed-out parts I present to you my working desktop.

Click on the image twice to see it in full size just as it is on my desktop.

Windows XP SP3
My own Yahoo Widgets
My own Xwidgets (2)
RocketDock showing my icons

My perfect system, boots in 20 secs, 3.5gb RAM free, four cores and bags of hard drive space. Knocks Windows 10 on modern hardware into a cocked-snoot on speed, performance, boot times and gives me the ability to run all my old games from CD /ISO just as I used to before the curse of Windows 10 afflicted us all.
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Nice one Uncle ;)
Currently I'm coming up to speed on hardware for my new build and beginning to think about the O/S.
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I am moving a way from the 32 core build as it has some multitasking/memory channel bottle necks. There is no doubting it is the render thread king but I do a lot of PS and other stuff at the same time and the 16 core is looking very overclockable and, in many cases, stomping on Intels i9 18 core. There is another reason also, later this year the 3rd generation thread rippers hit the shelves on 7nm and there will be architecture changes plus rumours of 64 core. My thinking is 3rd generation 32 core might be as sweet a purchase as the 2nd generation 16 core. The beauty of this is that the socket and chipset will remain the same :)

I think I may even go back to air for cooling on this build and I have just about all other kit sorted so on to the O/S ... shiver...shake...

Have a look here:
This has annoying intro that almost put me off but I warmed to this guy and the stuff he says


I have also been looking at Linux Mint or Zorin with wine.

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The multicore issue with memory bottlenecks has always been present. It was traditionally resolved by each core in a multicore system having more its own dedicated memory (the equivalent of large L1 and L2 caches) and the CPUs arranged in a circle around some core memory with minimal data paths to each CPU. Often another dedicated CPU was used to schedule tasks out to each the other cores and another CPU dedicated to handling the i/o to the drives, each drive having another CPU dedicated to optimising the i/o even more to the platters. Type "cray systems" into Google and then look at the images.
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Yes and the problem the current Threadripper 32 is that only 2 of the 4 dies have their own memory controller and a whopping 50% less memory bandwidth than the 16core.
... I will also save nearly £800.00 :)
I may invest in a couple of second hand server 10G NIC's and a length of fibre and link this current rig to the new one.
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Interesting config. Almost a cluster. It can be useful to dedicate a NIC to any Windows VM you create so a spare NIC or two is a good thing.
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The choice is not easy at the moment. We are at that time when everything is 'between' this and that. My Father is complaining about his i5 7500 being slow to boot and operate, always waiting for Win10 to do something. It has supposedly 50% more power than my retro system yet it boots in a laggardly fashion and has none of the 'snappiness' that the 10 year old system has. I'm buying an SSD and 16gb of RAM just to get it up to scratch.
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I am moving a way from the 32 core build as it has some multitasking/memory channel bottle necks. There is no doubting it is the render thread king but I do a lot of PS and other stuff at the same time and the 16 core is looking very overclockable and, in many cases, stomping on Intels i9 18 core. There is another reason also, later this year the 3rd generation thread rippers hit the shelves on 7nm and there will be architecture changes plus rumours of 64 core. My thinking is 3rd generation 32 core might be as sweet a purchase as the 2nd generation 16 core. The beauty of this is that the socket and chipset will remain the same :)

I think I may even go back to air for cooling on this build and I have just about all other kit sorted so on to the O/S ... shiver...shake...

Have a look here:
This has annoying intro that almost put me off but I warmed to this guy and the stuff he says


I have also been looking at Linux Mint or Zorin with wine.

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Linux Mint is a very nice user-facing o/s, used it for a few years and it has everything you might want natively. The UIX is familiar enough and in comparison to Windows 10 is not a schizophrenic mess. As basic apps I run Palemoon, Thunderbird, libreoffice and the o/s itself is quick to boot and slimline. Using Windows in a VM means you have less commitment to the version of Windows you are running, ie. you can simply try Win7 and give it some cores and see how it goes, you can do that with other oses and even have a win10 instance for UWP apps if you really have to. I will watch your links though I am having internet troubles (alow) at the moment. Zorin - there are SO many flavours of Linux that come and go, I dont' really get why they have to fragment rather than coalsesce around a few different builds. I would steer clear of Plain Ubuntu but go for something like Mint or Zorin that use the best of Ubuntu but avoid the disastrous choices of Ubuntu's founder. Wine will be useful but you will find yourself dipping into VMs to do what you want. Wine has its limitations as it is always under heavy development. FYI The chaps that build ReactOS use Wine for the user-level code and contribute to the Wine codebase. Don't consider ReactOS even for a moment. It isn't ready.
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Interesting- thanks Uncle :)
Got strip out and redecorate my man cave first ... I may be gone for for some time :| (Blank Stare)


... bloody hate that expression... man cave.... jeez!
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I am downloading Kubuntu as I speak to test it as an alternative on my retro test system
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Seriously think about Kubuntu. It is a grown-up o/s with a mature interface and its own suite of apps, some of which also run under Windows. It is familiar, utterly customisable and I will be using it!
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I have just setup a VM and installing mint.
Only problem is I have to leave to go meet my eldest so it will have to wait until tomorrow now :(
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I may dual boot and make my transition that way.
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First time I heard it I thought it was a euphemism
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That is disgusting. That is in my mind now.
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That is disgusting. That is in my mind now.
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