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Tutorial on 2B2H Style Dragon

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Published: March 13, 2008
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Dragon Eggs are NOT marbles, their construction differs, as does their appearance. This zip package has, flames, scripts, full spectrum map and PDF tutorial covering the 2B2H style of Dragon Eggs.

Note: 3 steps @ 15º=45º, and setting it at 45º would accomplish the same as 1 step @ 45º. However, the 3x15º=45º should serve to demonstrate how one can examine various steps in rotational positions.

Error "2X: Color 1p000, Symmetry 1p0" correction should read "FX: Color 1p000, Symmetry 1p0"
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NebulaMith's avatar
Thanks for this tutorial, i learned quite a lot and your technique is very helpful. Tiny Universe
delasel's avatar
Great tutorial! Very easy and useful for novices like me.
This is now my favourite way to make marbles. Such a great fun! Thank you very much for sharing.
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anjaleckHobbyist General Artist
Thank you very much for sharing your time and your talent!
Hugs,
Anj
GraphicLia's avatar
:wave: Here's an intergalactic egg: [link] Even though you noted it right up front that 2X was your shorthand for Transform2 I tryed to use it as "number of times". :lol: Other than that it was easy to follow. Thanks again. :heart:
YarNor's avatar
I rather like the resultant fractal you generated. However, for myself, I always worked very hard to avoid anything entering the open area between egg and background. I stress that having material in that area is neither "right", nor "wrong" - it is just something that most Dragon Egg do not have.

You do some very nice images, and it is only by experimentation that the truly creative new works come into being ... IMHO ;-)
GraphicLia's avatar
Thank you for taking the time to comment.:)
I'm a bit of a purist myself when it comes to labeling. I'll retitle it with "Mutant". My inner voice kept saying so!
You have a lot of very nice Eggs,Orbs,and Marbles in your collection. What is the distinction between a marble and an orb? To me an orb has all the ornamentation on the outside and no view to the inside. :?
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For me, a Dragon Egg is an apparently transparent spherical form with a "clear" (lacking internal formations) rather narrow empty (except for color) surrounding border. A Marble is the same, except not requiring the empty surrounding border, and an Orb could be a Dragon Egg (some call them that) or an Orb may lack transparency in significant areas of the surface - of its spherical form, such as an Apollonian class object. But, these are just my uses of the terms, and you will find the terms often are used without any clear cut distinctions.
GraphicLia's avatar
Another well prepared tutorial in a useful format. I notice there seems to be two camps on the format. Perhaps it has something to do with whether one works more with documents or pictures. I really appreciate being able to take it away from the computer, mark it up and then keying my final notations into the electronic copy for ready reference after I've run through the tutorial. Different strokes for different folks. :icongiantlovehug:
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I hope it will prove useful to you :D
Ron
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K3i2m1Hobbyist Digital Artist
My connection to this site is flaky. I have just received your message. I have had to go back to Firefox 3.6.17. I downloaded tut. thanks.
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K3i2m1Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't have permission to access the file?
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K3i2m1Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't have permission to download this file?
YarNor's avatar
It just DLed for me? It is not protected. Perhaps,your log-in I screwed up. You will need to contact the dA [Help] people, but you should be able to download it anytime.
Good luck on it.
Ron
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deepbluerenegadeHobbyist Digital Artist
Wow, what a throw back. I haven't made eggs since I started using apo

Molly : )
Trance-Plant's avatar
Hi Ron,
Thank you for a well thought out comprehensive Tutorial. In particular setting up baselines wrt the adjust dialog and Gradient served well for me to be looking at the same thing you were describing. I am frequently frustrated when diligently following a tutorial step by step and my monstrous result looks NOTHING like the beautiful thing in the pictures -bad gradient?, missing step in the Tutorial, a butterfly farted in Singapore and the ensuing thermodynamic fractal chaos impacted my result? ;-).....
Joking aside, I particularly liked the way you illustrated rotating through the transforms to show the effect of the variations due to rotation and positioning. Your screen shots were also an excellent reality check.
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I did find 2 small errors:
(1)
"Set the value of the rotation degrees to 15º. Then, with 3X still the active Xform, click the CW rotation [right side rounded arrow] 3 times for a 90º rotation, but watch the DE as it makes each single step change."
****Wouldn't 3 clicks (15º) take us 45 degrees?
(2)
"Color & Symmetry [Color Tab] settings for all 4 transforms:
1X: Color 0p125, Symmetry 0p0
2X: Color 0p190, Symmetry 0p0
3X: Color 0p320, Symmetry 0p0
****2X: Color 1p000, Symmetry 1p0"
Shouldn't that read FX?
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That aside:
-One thing which might be useful is to describe the relationship of a .MAP file to a gradient- (Thanks for the spectrum gradient BTW), or provide a link to such document if one exists). Not completely sure how to use a MAP file or what the significance of the Indexes are relative to your (Apo's) color list.
-Perhaps convert the PDF file to a JPG file and post that. You would save yourself the headaches of addressing WinZip/Acrobat deficient people, and some might be put off by having to download something which could be posted as an Image file, so you might increase your potential audience.
Anyway, Thanks for the tutorial, gradient, script and flames. I must work through the details when I have time to think through the nature of how these transforms interact mathematically. You might see some dragon eggs coming out of me at some point soon.
Trance
YarNor's avatar
On your #1.... Yes, 3x15º=45º, and setting it at 45º would accomplish the same thing with 1x45º. However, the 3x15º=45º should serve to demonstrate how one can examine various steps in rotational positions.

On your #2.... Yes, that should read "FX: Color 1p000, Symmetry 1p0", instead of "2X: ...try 1p0"

Also, if you read the answer directly above your questios, I just answered both of these for someone else. I have added both to the Artist Comments, as well.

On your aside, a .MAP file is the original APO gradient, and can be used in the same way. You can access a MAP file on your hard drive by:
1/ Adjust MENU
2/ [Gradient]
3/ [Open Gradient Browser] (2nd from bottom Right icon
4/ [Open] (Folder at the bottom of the Gradient Browser)
5/ Locate the .MAP file (or .UGR file) and click on it.
zamosa's avatar
hello yarnor!
first, i want to THANK YOU for the tutorial on the DE, and the clarification of what constitutes a real DE vs. a marble and its other variants. With that said, i'm having a bit of trouble following your instructions from the PDF download, in particular 2 parts (and forgive me, but i'm a very green novice...On pge 5 you note, "Color & Symmetry [Color Tab] settings for all 4 transforms:
1X: Color 0p125, Symmetry 0p0
2X: Color 0p190, Symmetry 0p0
3X: Color 0p320, Symmetry 0p0
2X: Color 1p000, Symmetry 1p0" Is this correct, or should this last transform be FX instead of 2X?
Also, on the top of page 6, you state:
"click the CW rotation [right side rounded arrow] 3 times for a 90º rotation, but watch
the DE as it makes each single step change." How is this done? i can't "click" the CW to make it 90 degrees. that's as far as i've gotten. Would appreciate your advice/help, as i want to finish this wonderful tutorial and explore further what APO is capable of! again, THANKS and KUDOS to YOU veryvery much!
YarNor's avatar
I have read your msg, and will get back to you after to go to the material and see what the original context turns up. I may be a while, but I will answer you... :D
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~zamosa
Answer #1: Yes that should be "FX: Color 1p000, Symmetry 1p0"
Answer #2: On each side of the "rotation degrees" control 2 sets of arrows - one a a right angle and one a curved angle. One the left side of the [Setting] box the arrows point to the left, on the right side the arrows point to the right. Clicking a right angle arrow will rotate the selected transform by 90º no matter what the [Setting] box is reading. With the [Setting] box reading [15], clicking a curved angle will rotate the selected transform by the number of degrees shown in the setting - 15º in this case.
Catgel's avatar
Omg this is amazing !Im going to send this to all my dragon artist watchers thankyou !:iconmadcatplz:
YarNor's avatar
Thank you for your kind words :D
Catgel's avatar
Your welcome ive sent the link to a few of my dragon artists who watch me its amazing !
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gelaeHobbyist General Artist
Thank you for providing this :) I used it [link] [link] and [link]
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