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Religion:It's not an excuse
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Published: December 26, 2010
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"Having a religion is like having a dick. I don't mind if you do, just don't whip it out in public and try to shove it down my children's throat."

Yes, I do consider myself 'Christian/Religious' in some aspect. Yes, I have read the Qur'an, the Holy Bible, and the Book of Mormon. I have yet to find one which says, "We should hate and separate others from us because they are not holy/pure/do not follow the same path as me."
The Qur'an states that all people are children of god, and that they and the Christians follow the same god, just on a different path.
The Book of Mormon, yes, states that they believe their religion to be the best. They never say we should hurt people for disagreeing with that.
As for Christians such as myself, we should note: the Old and New testaments contradict each other. The protestant based religions generally follow the New Testament, where Mormonism and Catholicism draw more from the Old.
As for religions such as the Wiccan faith, Satanism, Judaism, etc.
I have not read the texts, but I am fairly confident they do not tell you to go out and destroy and burn humans.

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SkyFire33's avatar
SkyFire33Student General Artist
Permission to use this stamp?
The-Shiny-Serperior's avatar
I am religious, and I absolutely hate when people try to shove their religion down other people's throats. They give us religious people a bad name.
Kimba-417's avatar
I'm atheist, and I still agree.
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zoissStudent Filmographer
LOL i love how you put that dude! XD
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neither is anything else
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AvielleNStudent General Artist
Faith is faith, if you don't have it I am not going to judge you. Thank you for this, it speaks volumes.
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You're welcome.
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You are a wonderfully open-minded and logical person. Thank you for this stamp, and sharing your thoughts. I like how you've actually educated yourself on the subjects, as well. :)
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Thanks.
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SassyRaptorStudent Filmographer
No problem. :)
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CapcomWarriorStudent General Artist
Very true. I think we all, regardless of what we believe, should welcome everyone with open arms. There probably will be a day when we will need each other.
Briel74's avatar
me I have so much enough about all the religions of the world. nothing else to say.
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I consider myself to be an athiest, but that by no means makes me a bad person or someone who hates people who are religious. I do know however that some religious people make their religion look bad.

One of my closest friends is christian & though i do love her she can really irritate me.
She has incredibly close minded ideologies, including being against gays, athiests, such as me, and others. Even stating if she was pregnant and knew her baby would grow up to be gay she would disown the child.
She states that humans are the one and only 'supreme beings' of the earth even going as far as to say 'Dinosaurs couldn't have lived millions of years ago because humans weren't there to feed them'.
She constantly makes snide remarks about athiests, stating how theyre going to hell & what not and mentions all the things that happens to 'people like that'. If i were to make even one comment about her religion she would flip and call me prejudice or something along those lines.

I don't know, nor do i feel by your description, that you are like this. I know the majority of christians and other religious people do not act like this, i just felt like i had to mention why sometimes i can be really aggitated by religion.
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I despise those type of people. Why can't we all just be friends? Is it THAT hard? :iconfacepalmplz:

You should dump that "friend" of yours, if you already haven't.
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XxXTickleMehEmoXxXHobbyist General Artist
"People use anything as an excuse to tear others down.
If you're going to be nasty about somebody or something, please can you be honest about the reasons."
Basically my opinion.
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that's a good opinion
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"We should hate and separate others from us because they are not holy/pure/do not follow the same path as me."

Then you were lying about reading the Qur'an, the Holy Bible, and the Book of Mormon. The Qur'an is the worst instigator of violence against apostates, but its in all of them... Book of Mormon is probably the best on your list as far as violence towards others goes. The Jahnists, now thats a religion of love... okay its also pathologically insane, but its insane love.
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I have read them all, actually. They preach tolerance on some pages, and violence on others.
I chose which lessons I will take, and translate the violence into the time and church which edited it.
And the book of mormon is more insulting of other religions. The Qu'ran states, at least in the translation I have, that there is nothing wrong with Christians as far as the god, but the messiah differs.
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matthew-laneHobbyist General Artist
"I have read them all, actually. They preach tolerance on some pages, and violence on others.
I chose which lessons I will take"

then why bother with them at all? The holy texts of the Abrehamic religions are full of attrocities (which flys in the face of this stamps message), so why follow them at all? Either these books are divinely inspired & as such are perfect in there completeness, or they are not divinely inspired, in which case, why should i or anyone else pay any attention to them?
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XxXTickleMehEmoXxXHobbyist General Artist
I trust God, but not the preacher.
Tell me, if I'm a democrat, do I have to support Obama?
If I'm a republican, do I have to support Rick Perry?
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Sorry mate but that excuse doesn't fly. Either the texts are divinely inspired an as such perfect, or they aren't & if they aren't then why bother following them as if they were. Its like when you meet christians who disregard the old testement, becuase they realize that it is incrediblly immoral, yet will still try and tell you that the bible is perfect & moral.

you've made a statement that you've read the bible & other holy texts & i quote " I have yet to find one which says, "We should hate and separate others from us because they are not holy/pure/do not follow the same path as me.""

To which i say

"And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God..." (Deuteronomy 13: 5)

"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;" (Deuteronomy 13: 6)

"Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people." (Deuteronomy 13:8-9)

"Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword." (Deuteronomy 13:15)

And thats just one book of the christian bible... The Quaran has at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers, including references from the Hadith. So that puts a whole right now in your concept of religious texts not calling for hatred towards non believer... It not only calls for hatred, it calls for execution of non believers.

I do however apologies for making a liar of your stamp.
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I think I'll chose how and what do believe, thank you every much. I believe in God, and in Jesus, which makes me a Christian. Now, do I believe in the church? No, not particularly. And the Bible is the Church's book, not God's book. I could normally find you conflicting text, but my bible, Qu'ran, and book of mormon happen to be packed away at the moment as we are in the middle of moving.
Of my stamp? I don't believe you did.
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matthew-laneHobbyist General Artist
"I think I'll chose how and what do believe, thank you every much."

Then you agree that you are significantly more moral then the christian god as rpesented in the bible?

"Now, do I believe in the church? No, not particularly"

Really? Because i'm not at all christian & even i can prove the church demonstrably exists (okay, yes that was an easy cheap shot, my apologies)

"And the Bible is the Church's book, not God's book"

Then how can you be christian? You say you believe in Jesus & God, but the only place Jesus & God exist are in a work of fiction which you apparently don't believe in & pick and choose from like the special order section of a chinese menu.

" I could normally find you conflicting text, but my bible, Qu'ran, and book of mormon happen to be packed away at the moment as we are in the middle of moving."

Trust me when i tell you that the bible says nothing of not hating, or seperating yourself from people who follow a different god: Theres a whole heap of statements that say "Love thy neighbour" but they are all supseded by statements of "unless he not believe as you do, then you should totally kill him."

"Of my stamp? I don't believe you did."

Really? Its pretty clear it did.
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XxXTickleMehEmoXxXHobbyist General Artist
You don't need to believe in a story to believe in the characters.
Plenty of people don't believe Twilight or Dracula, but they believe in vampires. Plenty of people don't believe in Doctor who or back to the future but believe in Time travel, etc.
Do I believe in the theories and meanings of the church. Don't be pedantic to try and disprove me.
I really don't trust you.
It's really clear you didn't.
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