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Hi, here is my feedback, thoughts & examples about DeviantArt-Eclipse:


PLEASE NOTE:

Even I will continue to update the "Important Eclipse links - journal" (look link below), sice staff brought up Eclipse in this unfinished version and deleted the old page, I WILL NOT SPEND MY TIME AGAIN AT THIS JOURNAL AND WILL NOT UPDATE HERE ANYMORE and I WILL NOT PAY FOR CORE AGAIN! So I will not be able to test things and bring good infos. Hold in mind that not all infos here may be right or up to date anymore. If they still are than staff did a worse job than I thought! Well it still can be a reminder of what happend in these two years of pain and perhaps some infos are helpful for someone, so I will not delete it. If you have questions, just ask. And sorry for my english.

Last update: 1.6.20

THIS JOURNAL INCLUDES:

  • Important LINKS 
  • BUG report
  • QUESTIONS
  • Biggest HOPES
  • FEEDBACKLIST part 1
  • My EXAMPLE "How it could/should be"
  • FEEDBACKLIST part 2
  • REVIEW
  • More EXAMPLES and SCREENS
  • RAFFLE


► IMPORTANT LINKS 





► BUG REPORT 

  • I can´t choose "notify your watcher" if I edit my journal with Eclipse. I have to switch to old DA for this.
  • Journals only showes the first thumbs in a line, but the others are hidden in a endless not visible side. (I have to set manual only four in one line to see them all.) Thumbs with mature tags are buggy and don´t want to stay in one line with non-mature thumbs.
  • Text is very buggy and some formatations are not shown and the text part is invisible.
  • There is no edit button on a comment if I post it with Eclipse but look again with old DA.
  • The emoticons like :bulletgreen: in a comment can´t be placed correct and the text looks different on Eclipse or old DA. Mostly the formatation just erase spaces and because we don´t have a "preview" button anymore we can´t see how it will look like. We have to edit it every time and even then the results often don´t look like it should. That´s why I only use the font ● now. BTW It´s annoying to find anything on the very small emoji popup, which closes every time.
  • The formatation in the custom box is VERY annoying cause there are invisible codes which makes crazy things and show formatations in the final box which showes different in the edit variant without changing anything?! Some parts makes stupid spaces or deletes a whole part or image even there is a big space between the text. You said HTML is too difficult for DA-users … well I say: Invisible codes are much more difficult!!!
  • PLZ do not work with copy past and are buggy and why is there a space between them? This destroys the system of images with more PLZ sections!
  • Even in the old version too, at the moment some image names are confused named with random numbers and not with the correct name. 
  • I miss my social network links for Artstation and Picarto, so I have to avoid this setting and have to show my links in other ways, that´s annoying.
  • The spotlight images is still cut and don´t show the images correctly or do not fit in the frame. Some are much too big and even bigger than in the gallery!
  • Some of the the slideshow images are cut or buggy too, but not all.
  • If I try to "show more" in my Llama list, this list don´t show the correct informations but from a certain point of estimated 20-40 entries, simply double the last entries.
  • I don´t know what happend with the stash-writer. I can´t edit my literature text and only have to use codes. I´m pretty sure this is a bug!
  • I can´t write a literature post because every text only displayed in the title line.
  • I can´t send emotes in my notes.
  • I recognized that the "saved" comments will not stay in "saved" if I write a reply. That don´t make sense, please let it be in "saved" even I write a reply.



► QUESTIONS 

  • I can´t see the special literature author tag for writers. Will we get get a setting to upload our own tag again?
  • Will it be possible to give a custom box thumb more than „left-middle-right-formatation“? I want to set more than one in one row and they have to get much more small! A „big-middle-small-formatation“ and a „1-2-3-in-one-row-formatation“ would be AWESOME!



► BIGGEST HOPES 

  • I miss coding at all and to set special linkbuttons. But over all I MISS MY BEAUTIFUL NAVIGATION LINKS! PLEASE let us use link-codes at least with our beloved navigation links or give us a base with navigation links which we can edit with how much buttons and with any html address we want! It would be great if there is a choice with circle and square buttons and a grid to order them into a form. And a choice of colors and fonts as well.
  • At the first view, I want to see if anyone is watching me! Whether in the name popup or on a profile, anyway. Currently I do not see that anywhere. Or am I just to stupid to find it?
  • I want to see again who as birthday in the next days!
  • I need the gone whole numbers of pageviews & watchers back!
  • Please show again with the download button how many downloads a deviation already has.
  • PAGINATION on profile, gallery, ANY folders and ANY comment parts! Thanks that you are working on it!
  • I still don´t have any overview on any folder or choose-setting! So please make any thumbs in the gallery and notifications much more small too! 
  • I want to see on my profile, how much is in my watch incoming list with a number (like we could see in classic).  I can´t see any number of how many stuff I have in my incoming list, but I need a number in any way to get overview ho much it is to deal with my time to see all. This green point and the number like we have withe the feedback bell, could be done with the watch stuff as well. But both should disappear only when everything has been deleted and therefore should update every time so we can see the number with every update again.
  • Could you guys please change that we can´t use thumbs, emoticons or name-icons with copy past? I realy CAN´T deal with this annoying small popup which closes as soon as I click on something. You can not find anything or compare in that damn mini size popup! I can´t post several emotes at the same time but the popup not even remembers the search term. I WILL STOP USING EMOTICONS IF THIS WILL STAY LIKE IT IS! So PLEASE : COPY PAST!
  • Also the insertion of pictures is totally annoying and difficult without copy past and the thumbs are again too big for me, especially in the centered variant. Please add a small-middle-big selection and let us show more than one in one row!
  • And that really frustating text formatation with spaces to hell between the text variants or images and written text. How I wished this undo button back till I fight with this damn eclipse text formatation system!!! Hours after hours have passed with trying to write and design the custom box. Bring back the "undo button" please!
  • I noticed that I HAVE to click THREE TIMES now to add a fav in a right collection! THAT IS REALLY ANNOYING and a downgrade twice to the downgrade before! Please add a drag and drop menu again or at least remove this extra click! Or just make it both:
    Click on the "star" = "add to fav" (add to all/featured without folder popup)
    Click on "add to favourites" = chose a collection (open fav folder popup)
    Btw it seems that I can NOT change the collection after the first popup closes. A new mouse over did not oben the popup again and if I click the pav would be removed. Please change that.
  • I want to choose free WHERE I want to show which box/section and I want to choose in which SIZE I want to see it: full or cut size / randome or fav Thumbs and 1-3 rows or slideshow ...(just that what we could do all time!) Most pages without big custom box looks  not good because the left side is full but the right side is a empty place. This is no good page management and looks stupid! We all have different priorities, so why can´t we order our boxes just free where we want?
  • I know this is not include with old DA but I always imagined how nice it would be if we could split our account into a few single profiles with different profile names, galleries, watchchers and fav gallery and notification system. A lot of us makes contend which would be nice to organisate in different ways and also have different watchers but we have to log out and log in again to switch an profile to get feedback and notifications. It would be great to switch between a few profiles with only a click at the setting feature, where is shown our main account with all profiles to choose. This is inspired by Tumblr, where this system is working and really amazing to use. One "main" profile for the account, but a lot of more different profiles more without logging.



Here is a visual summary of the key points that should be improved:

Eclipse To-Do-List by Wyzzel

I badly miss creative ways to show and create my front page like navigation links, different thumb sizes and places, pages with page numbers and overview and simple clicking instead of scrolling and many more, so here is my full feedback:


DEVIANTART 
Please don´t let Eclipse be the end of this awesome community! 


Eclipse Wars by Wyzzel

► FEEDBACK LIST PART 1 


● PERSONALITY AND CODES 

:) GOOD:
New ● We got the custom box back! YEAH! Love But sadly with much less settings and creativity! Look below at the box-part for details.

:( BAD:
● I REALLY HATE that we will lose coding and creating our individuality creativity with special image combination designs, links, special promoted thumbs, buttons and navigation links etc.! This site is mainly known and characterize for it to make free design and code design and many are here for this! This is one of the main and most special things of this page and the main reason for almost all members, who buy core. If this will be removed, it will loose the soul of this page and with it the best art-community which exist, because all these artists won´t have a reason why they should stay on DA or buy core!
I too love my box with this beautiful navigation links and all others with personal background and link-code with special buttons design. Also I love to set thumbs in a individual way and size at my personal box-background, which often are designed with 2 or 3 background images. I use many kinds of letter sizes and as well text colors and links! I want give special infos and decide by my own which is most important to show on my front page and want to design thumb-links with code-buttons to my personal most important parts. I've spent a whole month to understand HTML to create codes to get, what I want to see here on DA. This is time, yes, but I also have learned a lot! I would have NEVER lerend these things without DA and that is awesome!
Yes, you should not have to understand codes to get a nice page. If someone do not want to make an effort, they can get or buy ready-made codes and set them up easily. However, if you are as concerned about this like me, you work your way into it and love to build own codes! The people who do not care, they leave everything without codes ... but everyone can be happy at the moment!

● DA, please don´t try to be a second Instagram, Artstation or even Tumblr. You CAN´T be a second of anything and you will not get back the lost users by this, but you will loose ALL users, who are still in love with DA for the very good overview and notivication-system, for creating very individual codes for this page and for our free ways to create really individual pages, journals, links etc.!



● BACKGROUND BLACK, WHITE & GREEN 

:) GOOD:
New ● We got a GREEN THEME back for all who don´t like black/white!!!
New 
● The hard contrast of extreme black and white which has hurts the eyes and text was almost unable to read IS FIXED! Now the tones are better.

:( BAD:
● You should notice, that there are a lot of people, who don´t like black/white or the old green but loves other colors! It would be great, if there would be a few basic color-themes which we could choose. In my examples I show a simple way to give such settings. I really hope for more colors to compensate for the lost creativity because of deleting HTML!

New ● Even if one now adapts his page to one of the existing color concepts, the page can look extremely stupid in the respective other color concepts. You see it in the harmonious adapted style, but anyone who has chosen for himself one of the other color concepts, sees a totally incongruous and sometimes terrible-looking side. This problem did not exist in the HTML design, because everyone has seen the same.
But if it stays that way, then it would be good if the respective color scheme of the own page would be displayed to ALL visitors.



● PAGEDESIGN 

:) GOOD:
● I REALLY like the new header, even the design is copied from Artstation. Perhaps DA should make the frames and buttons a bit different that it looks unique and not almost like a 2.Artstation?! I have shown a very simple way to  do this with one easy colorchange of the setting top line. Please look at my examples. For the image I used a space which is half as big and it looks still awesome but we can see the other informations and all boxes/sections faster.

● The new invisible frames of boxes and thumbs are very nice! I wish this would be the only change on our boxes.

● The new slidebar on the top of the front page is really great and we can use it to promote our 5-6 most loved works if we set them in a special folder which we can choose for the slidebar. We can select any folder we wish. The only thing I wish is that the sildebar would not end at some point at te left and right. It should scroll around endless.

● The setting to put a special wall-background behind your open deviation, is a nice new feature. I think this is only for core. 

:| EHHH:
● I don´t want to see less important account facts on the front page! It is not important to see how long artist are on DA, how much comments, watchers or badges they have etc.! The art is important! If someone wants so know more about the artist and not the art, there is the „About“ button near.

● There are so many black holes and useless spaces everywhere but also really ennoying scrolling, that the hand can hurt. Sometimes even on the same page, what really makes no sense and screams again to be designed for an app and not for a page.

:( BAD:
● PLEASE REMOVE THIS APP-DESIGN ON BROWSER! App for Spartphone only and desktop for PC and laptop. This page should remain a PC-friendly website and no other app, that is unfortunately totally confusing in a browser. ALL digital artists work with browsers so you need both, an app for all who like smartphones and a website with wich artists really can work! No Artist want to work a lot with a browser unfriendly page! If the artists can´t work with DA, they will go! And at some point there will be no good new art to browse! Now DA should decide for what it will be here? Is it a page for artists or a app for visitors?
Only 50% smaller thumbs, a better overview and a bit smaller letters, as well no mini icon-choose-popups and please pagenumbers to remove this endless scrolling and we would have a nice PC-version of eclipse! Why can´t we have both? DA would not lose artists and all who want, can browse with app like they wish too. It´s no matter if some codes doesn´t work with app. If someone wants to see all the codes working, they can visit throug a desktop view … which you can see on all smartphones too! And who not, doesn´t care about it! We all could be happy, if there would be only a setting to switch between a App-view and a desktop view. That´s all! But I´m glad that they are working on pagination now!

● Some of us wants to see all this artist-infos with correct number and not only inaccurate „K“ indication. Look at kirriban or watch and pageview raffles! This all we can´t see and use, if there is only shown a „K“.

● I really miss the „birthday notifications“. I hope this will be added.




► HOW IT COULD / SHOULD BE 

PREV DeviantArt UNIQUE Eclipse by Wyzzel Settings DA Eclipse vs DA Unique by Wyzzel 
I describe the details and all parts of changing in this post:
(You should download the file to see what I´m talking about)
DeviantArt UNIQUE Eclipse by Wyzzel

Single variants: 
PREV DeviantArt UNIQUE Eclipse by Wyzzel  DeviantArt Unique Eclipse BLACK by Wyzzel  DeviantArt Unique Eclipse GREEN by Wyzzel 
DeviantArt Unique Eclipse BEIGE by Wyzzel  DeviantArt Unique Eclipse PURPLE by Wyzzel  DeviantArt Unique Eclipse PINK by Wyzzel




► FEEDBACK LIST PART 2 



BOXES & CUSTOM BOXES

:) GOOD:
New ● Custom box is back! YEAH! Love It is only one box for non core members but it´s good that this box is NOT fixed. We can make it as big as we want. Core members will get more custom boxes!

New ● We got the slideshow and random view back! Thank you! It makes a page individual and loosen the page design, so that not all boxes looks the same.


New ● We got a box again, where we can promote one personal most loved deviation in big size. It´s called spotlight.

:| EHHH:
New ● Sadly the custom box has much less settings and creativity as core members know with the old DA! We can add only ONE individual background image, font color and H1, H2 & normal text as well thumbs and videos etc. but also less coordination settings. We can´t use copy past to add thumbs etc. cause the thumb code is and will not work with Eclipse! The way we can add something is unwieldy with finding and choosing the wished thumb imo and would be very better with just copy past. PLZ codes are buggy and don´t work with copy past too.

New ● Sadly we can´t choose in which size we want to show this spotlight.

● A lot of boxes are removed and we can show only the basics. Almost all of them only on the left. So if I use all what I can, I have a really stupid space on the right, which I can´t use in any way, but a more annoying longe scroll on the left.

● I don´t like the fixed and cutten space for the boxes now. Even fewer ways to show what we want and I can´t write enought text to the box.

:( BAD:
New ● We can NOT use HTML on the custom box and loose all our loved settings with this. It feels that DA is giving non core members all what they don´t have yet, while core members loose all what they love. Really bad feeling!

New ● I fear that the spotlight never will be a navigation-button-code again, like it is now. Well perhaps it will be at the end. I really hope that we get the chance to use these great navigatin-links on the front page again. This was always epic and nice to see how different they can be an look like and I really love my version so much!

● We could show a whole journal on the frontpage. Now this is impossible and takes away a big part of our own decide to show what is important for us in a very indidual way, which was always very nice to see. 

● I really don´t know why I can´t decide which box I want to show on which place. I had included this missing points in my example.



ICONS

:) GOOD:
New ● Gif-icons was bugged but is fixed now, thank you!

● We will need a bigger Icon because it is high res on the header now. 

● Mouseover will open a popup with links and basic infos: Header picture, header top message, last works, numbers of submissions and watchers, link to message and link to watch. I don´t think this is really needed, but it´s a nice feature.



● „HOME“ LINK

:) GOOD:
New ● It was more difficult to go back to the main page if you are on the „watch“ or „browse“ view, because there is no simple „home“ button or link. There will be a button on evey view now. 

New ● It is changed that you can´t click on your name to go back to the front page. You don´t have to click and cklick again on a popup. Now the button will open the main page directly. Thank you!



THUMBS & FOLDERS

:) GOOD:

New ● We got a search button. Thank you!

● There are no gallery undergroups folders possible so far, but they are working on it and this will come again for core members. There are bugs with the arrangement of the folders but I think this is because of the overlap of eclipse and the old version.

● The thumbs on the right while browsing or in the gallery are much more specialized in me. I see, for example, my last selected pictures and in some way specialized suggestions for me. I also see the „popular in the last 24 hours“.

:| EHHH:
● If I try to use the „overview“ setting there are still too big thumbs to see a real overview. A bug is there too and the thumbs sticks out of the screen and disappears somewhere.

:( BAD:
● One of the most bad features of eclipse is the edit arrow-tool for gallery folders and thumbs in our gallery. The main edit-settings with popup is good, but I talk about the arrows to move a thumb or folder in the gallery. It is really bad to move it from the end to the top of the list because, we can´t move it with the mouse anymore. There are only these little arrows with which you can push it left or right along the list. You have to push every single piece through the whole gallery and every other post. That´s mad! DA PLEASE tell me this is only a bug or … I don´t know, but please just change that! I want to move it with mouse again or perhaps with changing the post number with which every deviation or folder is marked. Anything is better than this push-arrows!

● ALL thumbs are much too big! This is for a app again, not for a page which artists want to work with! It may be ok on the front page but even here I wish they would be smaller to show more thumbs. But it is really bad with the notifications, collections and galleries. There is absolutely NO overview with so big thumbs. Only four fits in my desktop view, so I have to set my browser on 65%-75%, but then I see the open image with less quallity too and I can´t chance with every image-switch! I don´t want to be forced by DA to change my browser & view only because of these big thumbs! Deviantart is a page not a app! So please make thumbs small like we can see them in the old version of DA! (I used this size in my example too.) You did it with the thumbs on the profile, so please do it in the gallery too.

● We lost our individual folder buttons. There will be no way to show anything like that anymore!



LITERATURE, JOURNAL AND STATUS

:) GOOD:
● The literature posts got nice covers to make them more individual. This will be with the thumbs too.

● We can see all past status posts now. That´s great and finally I can delete my saved links on my PC hehe.

● We can choose free of all our posts, which one we want to show on the front page, even very old posts. Thats nice!

:| EHHH:
● I can´t see the special literature author tag for writers. Hope this will be added again.

● The single post looks good, and I don´t need special letter settings like H1-H5 or other codes etc. which are bugged or removed? I don´t know, but some of my text is invisible and only appears when I mark it. But it always was very nice to see special skins for my text posts, I can understand all the people who will miss it, if it is removed. I don´t know if this will happen, cause some of my journals still have working special skin codes. What I need is to set links, thumbs and icons in my literature, journals status and comment posts, which is not working well so far.

New ● It would be great if you could make LINKS more visually too. They only look like normal bold text and only change green with mouse over. I would wish links would be all time in a clear different color than normal text

● The letters in literature are much too big for me. It seems that this is another app setting, which looks not good with desktop.

:( BAD:
● There is no overview of the literature, journals and status posts and I don´t think we need such big thumbs for literature. I would prefer a list of all, or if there are more than 20, the most of the posts, to see at the first view a good overview to choose. There is a big space on the right. It would be great if there would be listed all journals or if you are in the status overview, all status.

● The boxes are fixed and don´t show much of our infos what we wish to show. The infos will be cutten and we can´t set only one lingle, but big post to schow all infos. Only three single and cutten posts or nothing. We can´t show a whole journal anymore for example.



DEVIATION TEXT, COMMENTS & CHAT

:) GOOD:
New ● The lost comment-track has been fixed and we can use it again. THANK YOU!

New ● The cut of the deviation descriptions and comments with the "Show all" button IS REMOVED!!! Now we can see all at the first view. Thank you!

● I like the new easy chat formation with only marking the text. That´s really nice, easy and fast! We also can put easyly links, images, galleries or videos in this text now.

● A new feature will show all comments we have made seperate on our „About“ page. I don´t think there is a stalker watcher, who is interestet in my comments, but I think for others it could be interesting. But I´m really happy to know, that we can decide, if we want to show it or not!

● Comments can be sorted as newest and oldest, what can help to find a special post more easyly.

● You can like or save a comment now. Saving comments can be very helpful, I like it!

:| EHHH:
● There is no „preview“ button anymore. I know that some icons and thumbs are not working like they should. Perhaps this general problem is fixed for all time, but I would not think so. We just have no more choice to test.

:( BAD:
● The very small choose popup for icons and smileys etc. has no overview to choose. It´s for a app, not for a browser and even the old media choose popup has much more overview.

● I just hope we will can use copy past to add emojis, thumbs and videos etc but for now we can´t do it. To choose them is hell with no overview and we have to do it every time again and with no easy copy past.

● Comments are the most loved feedback, but I fear that it will go less, because of the big thumbs, there is no need to visit the page or deviation.



LIKES & DISLIKES

:) GOOD:
New ● First I thought this new heart with like/dislike bar is another fav or "hater" button, but I was wrong and perhaps this happend because of my bad english, I don´t know. But now I was noticed that this is not shown to the artist or anyone else, it will give only YOU a better choice of suggested pictures, based on what you mark with this slider. That makes sense, although I personally do not like the fact that a bot remembers and stores my preferences. That's why I'm not going to use this slider either, but I'm also a bit paranoid about all those cookies stories. I think for others who don´t care about this things, it could be a nice feature!

● We still can feature or hide a comment. But now we can like a comment too. I don´t know why this is different of the comment feature, but ok, why not. We also can save a comment. that´s really good!



FAVES

:) GOOD:
New ● We got a search setting! Thank you!

:| EHHH:
New ● Why can´t I fav my own deviation anymore? Some artists don´t post commissions, but I want to show it in my fav folder so I HAVE to upload it by my own!

:( BAD:
New ●  I can´t move favs easyly on the top in a collection scrollbar cause there is no drag and drop anymore. At first we could click the little star below the image and it open a popup where I can see my collections ... BUT this is removed with watever reason! Now we HAVE TO CLICK TREE TIMES TO SET A COLLECTION FAV because a simple cklick on the star add the deviation automatically ONLY to the featured folder and DON´T open the collecions anymore. Drag and drop vs. 3 cklicks ... pretty much downgrade!
My advice: R
emove this extra click! Or just make it both: 
Click on the "star": ="add to fav" (add to all/featured without folder popup)
Click on "add to favourites": = chose a collection (open fav folder popup)



SUBMISSIONS

:) GOOD:
● It is sooooo much more easy to start any submit I want and can be done with a simple popup feature on the front page.

● The submission settings and edit is much more clear and easy!

● I´m vey happy that the automaticly badly cutten deviation description with only a few lines, is removed again! THANKS!

:| EHHH:
● The tags are fixed on the top and takes the best space of my descripion. Tags are really not most important in my opinion! Please put them above.



IMAGE QUALITY

:( BAD:
● I think the less quallity in the last time was because of the beta? I really hope our deviations will have 100% quallity again soon. This pixels are ugly! ATTENTION: If you wish that anyone can see the image in the quallity you have uploaded, you have to set a download button!

● The open images are shown in smaller size in general. I don´t know why and I don´t like it.



PAGE QUALITY

:( BAD:
● Please distinguish between aesthetic nudity as well as erotic art and cheap porn! Too many natural, normal and beautiful works of art are blocked and deleted, whereas real porn trash increases more and more here. The difference can not usually be recognized by a bott and there are too many idiots out there, who report great pictures, but miss all the real shit. So please do not make this choice dependent on botts and idiots, otherwise there will only be idiots here some day!
DA could introduce such a negative controller like it is on the dislike-heart now, to get a statistic of how much a picture is disturbing to the viewer, too pornographic or whatever. The statistic may only be not visible to the artist or anyone else but only for staff. On the basis of these values, a DA staff then sees on which deviation has to take a closer look at and check. This system could save DA staff a lot of pointless or unauthorized reports and improve an anti-porno-bott. I´m pretty sure, this anti-heart was created for something like this and it´s good to make something against the really bad trash of porn here. The statistic just should not be visible and normal nudity and soft erotic art should NOT be banned!
This idea was first by Siobhan68 



BROWSING, SCOLLING & PAGINATION

:) GOOD:
New ● I´m glad that they are working on pagination again after removing it! I badly wish back the removed pages and pagenumbers to ged rid of this madness of scrolling and to find much more faster and easy any deviation, comment or any post. And I also wish pagenumbers for the folder „Featured“ too.

New ● The don´t working tag filter is fixed and works with the settings now, thanks!

New ● I had missed a button like „view gallery“ on the single deviations but we got this button back now. Thank you! 

● The setting to filter your browsing is much more clear and easy.

● I really like the new „< … >“ browse- arrows to see the next or last notification or gallery-image/post without switching the page. I had wished this since ever but it only was impossible with the notification posts. Now we have this setting in any open deviation! 

● The only scrolling I like is the left-right scrollbar with thumbs on the top of the page with which I can choose a gallery or collection. But please let this bar scroll endless and not stop at some point.

:( BAD:
● I really REALLY hate this scrolling everywhere. My hand hurts only of testing eclipse one houre! It´s with all, no matter if collection, gallery, comments, icon-popup … and mainly it is because too big thumbs or too small boxes/popups. It will be horror to scroll through a gallery with 500 or more deviations. The madness of scrolling everywhere scares to browse through galleries and comments and we can hardly find one special post. It´s not even the hurting hand, it´s a problem to find back a special position in a gallery too, if you had a disconnect or had to leave the pape, but want to see all later. Pages and numbers are very helpful to find what we are searging for!



NOTES & FEEDBACK

:) GOOD:
New ● Thanks for changing the confusing chaos which was first and adding categories for feedback clearly in sections.

● Notes are not changed but the new background looks good. There is still a nice overview and select/move setting. I only would wish to have a bigger place to write my answer notes.

There is no switch to a new page if you want to see stack-details. Comments and Llamas will move up in the same page if you click on the stack. That´s really better I think!

● The new feedback-bell is nice, I like it! Sadly it´s only for feedback.

:| EHHH:
I wish such a bell with numbers for notes and incoming watch-stuff too! Please look at my example, where I had included these features.

:( BAD:
I know that this will be great for a lot of users that the post of a given Llama will set you a button to give a Llama back, without page visit. But exactly this will make less pageviews and more anonymous and senseless given Llamas. It simply degrades the llamas even more to some thing that is thrown around, without even looking at an artist. Actually, I thought the Llamas would be a treat for the gallery or the artist. But if I don´t really care about it and do not visit a page, a Llama is nothing worth. And that´s really sad.



NOTIFICATIONS

:) GOOD:
New  We got back a bar with all notification areas in one overview to choose and just click on it. VERY good, thank you!

It is nice that this is separate to the feedback and notes.

● The new „select all“ „save“ and „remove“ settings are very good! The new „remove“ is a feature which gives you the thumb even if you have deleted the deviation. If you click wrong you still can find it. The removed posts will be permanently deleted after 30 days. I don´t know why I should „save“ a deviation, if I like it I can fav it, but you can save feedback, comments journals and status too now and this really makes sense.

:| EHHH:
● I wish another bell or anything like this for my watched stuff too. I always had seen that there is something new on my notifications an a clear number how much. This was very helpful to see in time what is happend. So please make another bell with number for the watch-stuff.

● I miss the button to remove a deviation from my notifications, if I browse with the new „< … >“ setting through my notifications so I have to click twice with select + remove, if I use this nice new slideshow first. Would be great to have this button again.

New ● Would you please add a number or popup to the eclipse download arrow which shows how many downloads a deviation already have, like we could see with classic DA too. I would love to get a feedback notification if someone has downloaded my stuff too.

:( BAD:
I really miss a good overview here too, like I do at the galleries. The thumbs simply are much too big.



POLLS

:) GOOD:
It looks better now with the background and bar color.

:| EHHH:
If I want to show it on the front page it´s a limited box and don´t show more than four askbars. I can use it only with 200 signs and I can´t use codes and backgrounds. I can´t explain what I want, because of only 200 signs. 





Eclipse Wars by Wyzzel

R E V I E W

At the end of this first view I can say: There are REALLY nice news and features here and it could be a very great new start! But there are some REALLY bad new features too! I have hope that not all will come like we see here.

DA is the only page where I get the creativity and overview I need and love, but now they want remove almost all individuality for us and give up all desktop users. Even Tumblr would be more individual and creative as DeviantArt! This could be the final end. DeviantArt, you has to be and stay unique, so please continue to BE DeviantArt and not another mainstream zmombie-app or soullessprofit-page!


1.
Don´t remove our individuality creativity at all and give us (codes, custom box, skins)!

2.
Let us choose between a app and a desktop version. You are the last page who had cared about desktop users, please don´t give this up!
You need both:
App – for Smartphone only
Desktop interface – for PC & Laptops

3.
Give us free options what, where and how much we want to show on our front page!

4. ●
Please distinguish between aesthetic nudity as well as erotic art and cheap porn!





Copy of one of my comments from staff journal - Eclipse Change Log: August 14, 2019 - ●LINK● 

"... everywhere and every page and setting is doing the same shit and everything looks the same and is using the same things. For someone like me, who don´t like this things, it is just very frustating to see that I can´t use anymore more and more pages. I wonder what pages I will use in the future if it goes that way and I really fear that I lose my love to DA too!
I just don´t understand why nobody want to be unique anymore!!!??? It don´t want to go into my mind! Any chat pages ... ok. It has nothing to do with creativity and they do not interest me anyway. But when it comes to art and creativity (which is the case with DA), the imitation and adaptation of the style completely misses the creative understanding and the soul of the site and artists.
We all love art and are artists! We love creativity, uniqueness and a wealth of free spirits and something new. Even staff are art lovers or artists. Why ... WHY are you trying to eliminate your unique style by cutting down your roots and hiding behind the mainstream?
If everyone does the same thing, looks the same and works the same way, there is no reason why you should love one of them!!! Based on the many protests here you can see how many DA still love and desperately try to save this love! Only if it really means something to people, there is protest. All the bad comments are nothing but an expression of fear of losing that love, this uniqueness here, this comunity that loves and lives just those old values ​​of art and creativity!
For me, Eclipse represents the loss of creativity not just in the form of the obvious loss of creative settings like HTML. No, I mean first and foremost the visual impression that fits into a sweeping visual image of all sorts of sides, functions and services and thus goes down in a completely unworthy mass.
This is not worthy of an ART page, not worthy of true creativity, not worthy of artists and not worthy of what you have created with DA!!! To call the comparison: Artstation is for me also not a true ART page and just a soulless profit-oriented mainstream ... Thing! And that's exactly what Eclipse will do to DA!
Should DA get lost in the mainstream mass, or should DA be the one it was created for: a beloved and special home of and for artists!??

"Whoever walks in the footsteps of others need not be surprised that he leaves no impressions!" ~ Wilhelm Bush


Real artists need free and creative options and far more than just black and white AND surly not a only profi-profit-based soulless place! If I can even change my phone background more free than a ARTIST-PAGE ... then something is wrong!
See that even without HTML, you are a representation of creativity at least with a free color background design or you WILL LOSE YOUR SOUL AND LOVE!"



Perhaps we can stop or change some of the bad planned settings of Eclipse, that we can enjoy all the really great things of the new DeviantArt because:

I LOVE DEVIANTART AND I DON´T WANT TO LOSE THIS LOVE!

If DA will not hear our last call I´m REALLY in fear of the final end of DeviantArt:
 


Here nice examples what we want:

This one has inspired me much!


I just would have a "About" instead of "Prints" because many users, don't use prints or sell anything.

And a "Posts" instead of "Journals" to get a link to ALL text posts not only journals.

 

(I'm sorry, but a DA bug has deleted half of my text and my featured thumbs from me and others here twice with whatever reason -.-* and I'm annoyed to find all of them back again!) 





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YukiMiharu's avatar

its just gross how they ignored all of the users and did whatever they want: they changed the site from being unique and user friendly to something very confusuing and boring.

theres just no way making our pages to be creative and unique to us...

... what the heck the owners even had in their head to think it was a good idea to change the site to be like any other boring looking unpersonalized site?

i remember back when the updates just came in: dozens of people in DA official post begged to not change it or at least allow u to choose between the desgins: but they realy went and ignored the people whom thanks to them the site get traction of any kind.



their whole excuse to make it modern is such BS since the old dA design were much more futuristic and modern.



and infinity scroll is the WORST IDEA EVER ON ANYSITE SINCE IN CAE ON AN ERORR: U HAVE TO SRCOLL ALL OVER AGAIN TO CONTINUE while when i pages u can just jump to the page.



i think users should have boyoated the site until they brought the old design back:

theres even literaly no reason to buy the expensive core membership : since ppl mainly bought it for the full costumazation boxes like we used to do.





and what i hate the most is that theyve changed my birthday daye without informing me (cuz when i first signed  11 years ago i made a mistake with the month, but later change it to the right month, but with the new update they fricking went on and changed it to the month of the what i registred with: day and year ofc stayed the same 15 & 1991)