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Do YOU want to sell prints? One mistake you make.

Journal Entry: Sun Jan 15, 2012, 7:51 PM


Hi people!

Today it is a short journal without photos, sorry.
I would like to give you one important advice, so I hope it can be still useful ;)

I see many people try to sell prints here. And they are often sad they have not sold anything yet.
But at the same time I see they do the same mistake. So:



HOW PEOPLE TRY TO SELL THEIR WORK AS A PRINT?

1. you took a photo (drew a picture). It is nice, so you want to post it as a deviation.
2. you edit it. Making it sharper, more colourful, adding contrast, CHANGING a size to some 850x600px, for example.
3. you post it as a deviation.
4. you look at your deviation and think "hm, it looks pretty cool! Maybe somebody can buy it. I will allow it as a print."
5. you click at "submit as a print" and in "print submission" option you just scroll down and click at "SUBMIT AS A PRINT".
6. now deviation in your gallery has that cool "buy this print" green button and you are excited about somebody buying it.
7. you are disappointed that nobody bought it.


Where did you make a mistake?


It is simple.

When you decide to sell a print, you CAN NOT just submit your CURRENT deviation as a print. It is usually TOO small and it usually has your signature on it.
Even if somebody ordered it, dA would NOT allow him/her to buy it, because such deviation would not go through quality control.


So, here is the CORRECT way how to sell it:



HOW TO SUBMITT A PRINT TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO BUY IT?

1. you take a photo (drew a picture). You like the result and you think you can post it and maybe also sell it.
2. you edit it. Making it sharper, colourful and so. BUT you have TWO versions of that photo (picture). Not only you prepare that fe. 800x600px size for deviation posting. You keep also a version, which is much larger, for example 4000x3000 px with bigger resolution. This BIGGER version SHOULD NOT have any frame or any signature on it!!!!
3. you post your deviation (800x600px)
4. you click at "submit as a print"
5. choose the right size of a print.
6. then DOUBLE click on those big pink fields, which says "to make this size available, please click here to upload a higher resolution image"
7. in next option, click at UPLOAD LARGER IMAGE
8. Upload that BIGGER version or your photo (image), that one without frames and signature.
9. click at OK. Now you see how the print would look - if you see some strange white borders, you chose a bad size of the print, try to find more fitting. Or you can choose to crop your image a bit (be careful about cutting important parts)
10. do not forget about choosing more products - you can sell also calendars, mugs, mousepads and such things. For each product, you need to upload that bigger version of the image.
11. Finally set your price and SUBMIT IT as a print.

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12. if you still want to keep your signature on a print you sell, be careful about NOT cropping it during the submition process so half of the signature is on the product and half if cut off. That's why many of my prints were rejected in the past :)




You can see the example here:

My deviation in gallery (with signature and frames): woxys.deviantart.com/art/White… - the size of the photo is 854x571 px.
And product I sell (no frame, no signature, MUCH bigger size, which allows me to sell even BIG and expensive prints): www.deviantart.com/print/23373… - the size of the photo I sell is 4752x3168 px! Do you see the difference?



Simply: the file for product you sell must be DIFFERENT from the file, which is a deviation in your gallery. There must be bigger size, resolution and no signatures and frames on a file you want to sell! ;)


And one big advice: DO NOT say anything like ,,If you like it, tell me and I will make it available as a print". If you think people may like some photo (picture) enough to buy it, SUBMIT it as a print AUTOMATICALLY. People are lazy and this is not a site, where buying prints is the most important thing, so make it as user-friendly as possible. If people see you do not offer some work as a print, they will probably find some available product instead of asking you to make it available ;)


I hope it helped ;)
It took me few years to understand it - during this time, quite many of my deviations were refused by dA, although somebody wanted to buy them. As I did not go through those steps and I tried to sell signed small deviations, the product did not go through the quality control.
After I got how to sell prints, I really sold quite nice number of them. So I would like to help you a bit :)

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:iconinfinitelevel:
InfiniteLevel Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Does DA charge anything back for making and delivering the print?
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:iconwoxys:
woxys Featured By Owner 3 days ago
no :D
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:iconinfinitelevel:
InfiniteLevel Featured By Owner 2 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Aight' thanks, i was afraid i was suddenly gonna be charged for the production costs and recieve a letter in the mail by John Deviantart saying like
"Where's the fucking money Lebowski...?"

but i'm glad i won't get my caps shot by Mr.Deviant Johnson  :>
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:iconwoxys:
woxys Featured By Owner 2 days ago
:rofl: :rofl: no worries, pal :D

The fact is that you get only 20% from every sale.
The rests is charged by DA (for print, delivery...)

So when somebody buys a cup for 10 USD, you'll get 2 USD, the rest is profit for DA :D
But it is not your problem, you are the one who celeberates 2 USD ;)
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:iconwaqar144:
Waqar144 Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2019  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I have a weird question..
When someone buys a print or and artwork..
How does he/she owns it..
Like in which form?
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:iconwoxys:
woxys Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2019
in the form of her/his choice - for example a printed mug, a poster...
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:iconwaqar144:
Waqar144 Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2019  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Like after the person buys it...how will he/she receive it..
Like if its a print ..will it be like receiving the print in larger dimensions?
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:iconwoxys:
woxys Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2019
yup, you simply get the package by post (at least in my case) :D
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:iconwaqar144:
Waqar144 Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2019  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Alright:)
Thanks a lot
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:iconsameerprehistorica:
SameerPrehistorica Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2018   Digital Artist
You very well clearly explained than most people. This will help many newbies. The one doubt i have myself is, what is the difference between Print and Premium content ? I know that people selling arts through prints and is this the same thing with Premium content ?

For example, is it correct to set the same high res image for Print and Premium content ?
If it is correct then what is the difference of selling between those 2 options ?
Is it because the file gets sold faster through Premium content ?
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:iconwoxys:
woxys Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2018
oh, dear, my apology, I don't know it myself, I have bot even noticed the "premium content" feauture :(
Is not it something new, please?
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:iconsilverchemist:
SilverChemist Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2018  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Great advice! I'll have this in mind if I ever decide to sell some Clap 
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:iconpurpleflame32:
PurpleFlame32 Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hi! I'm considering selling some of my art as prints, but I'm a little worried that if I do end up selling a print, someone would sell it off as their own and I wouldn't know, so do you have any advice for how can go by this dilemma of mine?Bunny Girl Emoji-44 (Worried) [V3] 
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:iconsameerprehistorica:
SameerPrehistorica Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2018   Digital Artist
That is the something i wondered and i'm pretty sure a lot of people are uncomfortable with it.
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:iconcreationsofthebleak:
CreationsOfTheBleak Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2018   General Artist
So all I have to do is submit, and I don't need to create the things that the art is being printed on to? 
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:iconwoxys:
woxys Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2018
yes!
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:iconliza-dragon-fire:
Liza-Dragon-Fire Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2018
Thanks for the info, I just started putting up some of my recent artwork and was wondering about the print option. I'm wondering how well images that are 1920x1080 get printed...I didn't get a suggestion to change the size so I've got no clue.
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:iconwoxys:
woxys Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2018
it should not allow you to submit a print, when the size is too small.
So I suppose the size is ok!
And there will be also some quality check provided by DA, if I remember it correctly :)
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:iconliza-dragon-fire:
Liza-Dragon-Fire Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2018
Ok, thanks
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:icongdpr-14917625:
gdpr-14917625 Featured By Owner May 17, 2018  Professional Digital Artist
Llama for your journal! Nicely written. But isn't 4752x3168 a bit small for the biggest prints> :) (Said the guy who once posted at 12000x9000.)
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:iconwoxys:
woxys Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2019
I guess it is big enoug and if it is not sufficient for the largest prints, it simply does not allow you to publish it :nod:
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:iconsoleil-burningdesire:
Soleil-BurningDesire Featured By Owner May 12, 2018   General Artist
Very helpful! Thanks!
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:iconjazzstepscat:
JazzStepsCat Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2018
Thanks!!!
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:iconsameerprehistorica:
SameerPrehistorica Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2018   Digital Artist
You made a good point. It's just i wonder when you set a print without signature at all, what if some people who buy the print try to sell it on their own ?
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:iconrobq3d:
RobQ3D Featured By Owner May 17, 2018  Professional Digital Artist
I was about to ask the same question. Hope he answers soon
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:iconsameerprehistorica:
SameerPrehistorica Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2018   Digital Artist
I don't know, this can make some people uncomfortable. The worst thing i read from other art site where they put this in a FAQ i think. "Is it possible that arts can be stolen ? Yes, it might be possible. It has happened before."
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:iconpuppyart45:
puppyart45 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2018
hello! one of my pictures during the submitting stage gave the prompt of if i want to sell it as a print but not for others. Is that based on the resolution of the picture?
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:iconrenatacarmen:
RenataCarmen Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2018  Professional General Artist
very helpful post -- thanks for sharing! cheers!
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:iconsingingbun:
Singingbun Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Hi, random question, I have just started submitting via deviantart, photographs aside, the art originals that I've done already have a drawn signature on most of them. Most of these signatures are part of the image, but they are ones that rather small or sometimes blend with the image. do you think that it's passable to print, or it's actually not good?
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:iconamourshippingisreall:
What is the white space limit?
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:iconwoxys:
woxys Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2018
no idea
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:iconamourshippingisreall:
Ok
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:iconartprophecy666:
ArtProphecy666 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018  Student Traditional Artist
Um..thank you for the advice it's so helpful! But I have a question. What category should I put my art under? The category I always use it says won't allow me to sell prints ;-;
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:iconwoxys:
woxys Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2018
that is strange, which one, please?
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:iconartprophecy666:
ArtProphecy666 Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2018  Student Traditional Artist
Um.... fan art/traditional art/drawings/other
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:iconkyr-kun-chan:
Kyr-kun-chan Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Maybe it's because of the "fan art" part because of copyright reasons
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:iconartprophecy666:
ArtProphecy666 Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2018  Student Traditional Artist
You may be right...thanks!
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:iconwoxys:
woxys Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2018
oh my, I have no idea :(
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:iconartprophecy666:
ArtProphecy666 Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2018  Student Traditional Artist
Aw ;-; is there a category you'd suggest that works with selling prints?
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:iconwoxys:
woxys Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2018
it should depend on the type of art - as I post only photos of animals, I choose Photography / Wild Animals :(
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:iconartprophecy666:
ArtProphecy666 Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2018  Student Traditional Artist
Yeeeeaaaahhhh..
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:iconyatocommish:
yatocommish Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
This is a good tip but I have a question as well! If I were to submit my artwork for print automatically, do I still have to have 2 files? one for deviation and the other for prints?  
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:iconwoxys:
woxys Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2018
I think if you upload a file which is big enough (but it must be really large), then you are fine with one :D
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:iconyatocommish:
yatocommish Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh.. Like,. How Large? is 4000x7000px at 600dpi good enough?
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:iconwoxys:
woxys Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2018
I think it is different for each product, but yes, what you show should be perfect!
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:iconyatocommish:
yatocommish Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
Ohh. Thank you! :D
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:iconelegantlytwisted:
ElegantlyTwisted Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2017  Student Digital Artist
I really need to know the answer to this question ASAP!
if I wanted to sell my art as a print, do I have to pay for a canvas or paper to sell it on? If you don’t understand my question then here:
submit art to DA,
sell as print,
then, I’d i wanted to sell as print, do I pay for the paper to sell it on, or canvas? Or is that just permission to use it? Does anyone actually physically get a print if they buy it? Or is that just paying to download? 
Becuase then there’s a pay to download button, so I don’t think you’d have to pay for anything there.
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:iconwoxys:
woxys Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2017
I really need to know the answer to this question ASAP! - this is not a good start ;) it's much better to start with "please would you answer this question asap? Thank you." Magic words, you know?

You don't pay anything.
You just submit hight quality image.
DA then takes part and when somebody orders the product, DA manages everything (printing an image on a canvas / paper / mug... delivering it to the customer).
You get your part only for the image (20 % of the product's price, I guess).
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:iconelegantlytwisted:
ElegantlyTwisted Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Oh, sorry. I didn’t mean for it to come out as rude. The question wasn’t directed to anyone/you, it was just to whoever could answer it...
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:iconwoxys:
woxys Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2017
;)

I hope it helped anyway :D
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