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On January 7th this year, two gunmen armed with Kalashnikov rifles stormed the offices of Charlie Hebdo, a satirical paper in Paris. The two Islamists shouted "Allahu Akbar" (god is greatest) before killing most of the paper's cartoonists and several other staff members. Since then the expression Je suis Charlie (in English "I am Charlie"), is a rallying cry for supporters of Charlie Hebdo's freedom of expression.

When I published my own Je suis Charlie image a few days ago, a friend of mine commented on it, saying that he didn't understand why Charlie Hebdo had become a symbol of free speech. He said it seemed "random" to him. Realizing that he may not be alone, I published a poll on my profile. Exactly one month after the shooting, these are the current results:


Je Suis Charlie?

32% - 8 deviants said I really am. :nod:
24% - 6 deviants said I'm ... not sure? :shrug:
24% - 6 deviants said I wish free speech could be symbolized by someone a bit more politically correct... :paranoid: (Irony!)
16% - 4 deviants said I'm tired of hearing about it. People die. Life is misery. Shut up. :stare:
4% - 1 deviant said No. :no:

Seeing these results, I have to think there's still a fair amount of confusion about the #JeSuisCharlie movement. So I'd like to say a few words about why I at least believe this became an international free speech movement and why I support it.

This is it, folks!
This is so offensive,
it makes people MURDER!!!
Given the circumstances of the shooting, it's pretty easy to understand that the shooters were Islamic extremists. Here are a few facts you may not yet know. First, Charlie Hebdo's offices were burned down by Islamic arsonists in late 2011 in response to a November 3 cover page (right) showing the name of the paper changed to "Charia Hebdo" and a smiling Mohammed saying "100 lashes if you don't die laughing!" This shows that certain extremists were trying to silence Charlie four years ago. In fact, al-Qaeda added the paper's editor, Charbonnier (known as "Charb"), to their "most wanted list" in 2013, due to his making statements like, "we have to carry on until Islam has been rendered as banal as Catholicism." So given that Charlie Hebdo picked up the pieces after their offices were burned down, refused to be silenced and continued to publish, you may not be surprised to hear that the shooters, Chérif and Saïd Kouachi, were linked to al-Qaeda, via a local group in France that had performed military exercises and sent some of these young men to Iraq after the US invaded in 2003.

For me, Charb's comments about making Islam as banal as Catholicism, remind me that just a few hundred years ago, the Catholic church inspired the Spanish Inquisition. As far as I know, there are no similar atrocities being committed by the Catholic church today, although there are plenty of Christian terrorist organizations in recent history like the Irish Republican Army or Africa's Lord's Resistance Army. In truth, I disagree with Charb's sentiment that satirizing radical Islamists will in any way soften them, just as I don't believe that centuries of satirizing the Catholic church have softened it (or Christianity in general). Yes, Catholicism has softened, but I believe other factors lead to it. And yet, despite disagreeing with Charb, I still stand behind him and the other members of Charlie Hebdo. Why?

Is it so easy to say that Charlie Hebdo brought this on themselves? If we say that are we not then justifying the murder of innocent people? Was anyone physically harmed by their cartoons? Did they really do anything more than express their opinions? Imagine if a white man walked into Harlem, New York and shouted "Niggers!" It might not be surprising if he were killed. Would you then blame him? Or would you instead hold everyone to a higher standard? A standard that insists that murder is wrong, regardless of how offensive someone's statements are? 

Personally I agree with Voltaire (another French man), paraphrased by Evelyn Beatrice Hall as expressing the opinion, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." It is in this spirit that I personally believe that Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan, while their beliefs and behavior are detestable, have as much right to spew their hateful rhetoric as we have to make movies or disagree with the President. I say this because I believe freedom of speech is one of the few areas where a slippery slope argument is applicable. Usually, we hear people making ridiculous claims like the idea that repealing Don't Ask Don't Tell would result in rampant bestiality in the US military (it didn't by the way). But abrogating free speech can very quickly become a real slippery slope. If we choose to say that some forms of speech are not protected, we have to then explain why, which inevitably leads to a moral judgment about the quality of that speech. The moral judgment of each individual is wildly different from the next, so how can we choose any one person or any small group of people like the Supreme Court to decide what speech is okay? We have actually done this here in the US and I personally believe we were wrong -- the Supreme Court was wrong -- in declaring that "profanity" (for example) should not be protected speech. But, we're human and we do make mistakes.

Unfortunately(?), it's the nature of free speech that its champions are, by definition, offensive. If they weren't offensive to someone, if they were politically correct, then why would we need to defend their expression? :O_o:

We see examples of censorship all the time. You may not be aware that any English textbook you might have read has been very censored, according to the acronym PARSNIP.

P - Politics
A - Alcohol
R - Religion
S - Sex
N - Narcotics
I - Isms
P - Pork

You might at first glance look at this list and say "okay, so what?" So what if an English textbook can't show someone drinking a glass of wine with dinner? (Offensive enough to the French!) So what if they can't mention politics or religion, aren't we supposed to avoid those subjects already? So what if they can't mention sex or narcotics, what place would they have in a textbook? So what if they have to present a world in which pigs don't exist? Does that last one give you pause? Do you wonder who is so offended by pork that they'll refuse to buy a textbook if there happens to be an illustration or a photograph of a pig in it? I hope it does.

To pull what might be a more sobering example from current events, how would you like to live in a world in which it's illegal, and you could go to jail, for informing children under 18 years of age that homosexual people GASP they exist?! :faint: How would you like to live in a world in which you could go to prison and be tortured for criticizing your government or discussing religion on your blog?

I can hear you saying now, "but I don't live in Russia!" Yes, yes, we live in America, "the home of the free". Certainly we can just be happy that we have our freedom of speech here. We don't need to show support for freedom of speech abroad, right? Well... perhaps there were a lot of French people who thought something similar? When will al-Qaeda decide that one of your college professors needs to be silenced and place them on their "most wanted list"? And why couldn't that happen? Salman Rushdie only wrote a novel for the purpose of entertainment and suddenly Ayatollah Khomeini called for not only his assassination, but the assassination of anyone associated with the book's publication! You could find yourself a target of a terrorist attack just for being the guy who brought the coffee in a company that publishes fiction. If you're lucky, maybe you can convince the gunmen to switch to decaff.

I say this not to inspire fear, but rather, to inspire thought. Would you want to live in a world in which you could not express your opinions? If expressing your opinions means potentially fearing for your life, are you still willing to do that? And if you chose to stay silent, would it really protect you? You are however more likely to die from sugary food than from a terrorist gunman. Enter the War on Wonka! (I'm allowed to say that, because I have diabetes.)

I don't want to live in a world in which people cower in fear of the terrorists. I want to live in a world in which people, offensive or not, speak their mind!



I also spent a few minutes looking through the #JeSuisCharlie tag here on DA. Admittedly, there have been a lot of images posted to DA in support of Charlie, and I thought I'd share a few that caught my attention. I'll translate from French where I can, although my French is pretty rusty and it was never very good to begin with. ;P 

Kasu'_JE SUIS CHARLIE by K-Kasumi-Chan


Liberte d'expression - #JesuisCharlie by LeandraArtemis
You don't really need this one translated, right? I mean... He's cursing that the one pencil he shot was replaced by two more like the hydra head. Seems like it's pretty obvious.

Je Suis Charlie - Grendal's Retort by GrendalUnleashed
I just love this illustration. :la:

Charlie by Wesheuu
I thought this was interesting ... It would say something totally different if he were facing the gun and I think I like it both ways for different reasons.

hommage je suis charlie by Eric-Abillama

JESUISCHARLIE by troqman
I really love this use of mixed media! :la:

005 (Sketchbook 2015) by NekoAmine
Neko translated this one in his artist comments. It's really just a pun, but I had the impression the Charlie cartoonists would have enjoyed it. :nod: In case you're wondering, here's the explanation of Exquisite Corpse.

Charlie sur les barricades by DjulTheDrawer
English: Freedom is a fight that never stops. We are all Charlie.

Caroline Fourest by mottemo
She's photobombing the news media with the image that the Charlie Hebdo offices were burned down over. (Correction: that's not the image the offices were burned down for -- that's the cartoon they published in response to the shooting, however, it's another image of Mohammed, so the news media would see it as carrying the same risk.) In case you noticed "choked" is misspelled because "ch" in French makes the soft sound we English speakers associate with "sh". It's supposed to be "shocked".


English: Caricature is witnessing democracy!

Muramine Je suis Charlie by SilkJo
"Blame you a bit? It's hiding!" ... If my interpretation is correct, he's saying that blaming Charlie Hebdo for the attacks against them is a cowardly act - EDIT: apparently my translation was horribly wrong... thanks to NekoAmine for the proper translation, "Do you want some? It's kosher!"

#JesuisCharlie by SilkJo
I like the use of the paper as a shield.
English: They want to take away our freedom of expression. Let them come!

Charlie Rainbow Colors by FFF66
I translated this one in the comments.

Jesuischarlie by PezZcado
That's a Kalashnikov rifle obviously.

You can't take this away from me by Raaeno
English: Freedom of expression is not dead! (I think I would have chosen "lives" which would be "la liberté d'expression des vies".
It's a caricature of the slain cartoonist, Jean Cabut, known as Cabu. There are a bunch of depictions of Cabu in particular as an angel. I picked this one for the text.

I am Charile by EunDari
I'm pretty sure the pencil is jammed into the barrel of a gun here.

Freedom of speech by Shockowaffel


Apparently the Where's Waldo books are published with different names in various countries. In Britain he's called Wally and in France he's called Charlie. ;P It reads "Where isn't Charlie?" Note the gunmen in the back, saying "aaaand... shit." What I love about this one in particular is how it points out not only the spread of #JeSuisCharlie, but also that Charlie Hebdo was pretty invisible on the world-stage before the attack.

Je suis Charlie by Scipia
I think for anyone who's familiar with art history, this should conjure an image of the Belgian surrealist,
René Magritte, who labelled his The Treachery of Images in French. Instead of Magritte's "this is not a pipe", it reads in french on the right the same as in English on the left, "This is a caricature of a prophet". I probably would have gone with "this is not a prophet", but I think it gets the message across.

L hommage des cancres a Charlie Hebdo by Saint-Helens
English: I am sharia (law - not written) - I am racist (crossed out) Charlie - Jesus, Charlie! (snicker) - I suck Charlie :O_o:
The title at the bottom, "L'hommage des cancres" translates as "Tribute Dunces".

EDIT: Thanks to Faol-bigbadwolf for clarifying my translation.

Left to right:
:bulletblue: She pointed out that "Je suis Charia" the same French pun that Charlie Hebdo used on their original cover page -- it's a pun in French because Arabic uses a different character set and what we translate in English to "Sharia" (as in "sharia law") using the Latin character set, they translate to "Charia" -- what's important is that this is how the sound is spelled in French and hence why "Charia" sounds like "Charlie". If you're an English speaker and not familiar with French, you might notice at this point that the diphthong "ch" which makes a hard sound in English instead makes the soft sound we associate with "sh" in French. So if you really want to be a snob about Charlie Hebdo, just remember to pronounce Charlie like "Charlize Theron" or like the Studio Exec, just say "Je suis Charlize" - she may be offended, but I think Charlie would enjoy that.

:bulletblue: The woman is a caricature of an extreme conservative politician in France named Marine Le Pen (who Faol-bigbadwolf describes as "fascist"). You may have seen her mentioned recently on the Daily Show, (who seem to have shown her as a man). She decries illegal immigration into France and even wants to establish a moratorium on legal immigration to make it virtually impossible for foreigners to enter the country, because she doesn't want them receiving French social benefits like health care. If you're an American, you can imagine her as a female version of John McCain constantly shouting "finish the damn fence!" about our Mexican border, but expand that to include the Canadian border and an insistence that we need to make it even harder to get work or other visas. Writing "racist" and crossing it out would be a Freudian slip on her part.

:bulletblue: Faol-bigbadwolf says she believes the guy holding the "Jesus, Charlie" sign is supposed to be an extremist Christian. I knew "Jesus" to be a pun on "je suis", although I still think even if the guy is supposed to be an extremist, that some of the meaning is lost in translation for me personally

:bulletblue: The last guy is a caricature of Dieudonné, a "politically incorrect humorist (but with a bad reputation)" who Faol-bigbadwolf says she thinks "is a jerk" and might have created this cartoon ... The phrase "I suck Charlie" doesn't translate very well to English, it's an insult, more like saying "suck my dick". You may have also seen Dieudonné on the same Daily Show episode. I think this particular Daily Show episode is pretty poignant, highlighting the slippery-slope problems I mentioned, since he was arrested following the event because of a Facebook post and that his comedy show was stopped by the government. I may have put a cop on surveilance to make sure he wasn't in contact with the shooters or people associated with the shooters, however, I thoroughly disagree with the other actions taken by the French government. I agree that anti-semitic rhetoric is shitty and people shouldn't choose to participate his shows or support him if he's going to do that (although it would be their right to choose that), I still believe that allowing him to express himself (to be offensive even) is the higher moral ground that we should all be committed to taking.


Je suis Charlie by Faol-bigbadwolf
I didn't have time to translate Auriela's commentary (sorry), but the upper left corner is a Charlie Hebdo cartoon that reads "Love is stronger than hate", above what is obviously a picture of a Charlie Hebdo cartoonist(?) or supporter(?) tongue-wrestling with an imam. ;P That cover was made in response to their offices being burned to the ground in late 2011. - Also, thanks to Auriela for helping clarify several of my other translations! :hug:

Never give in to bullies. JeSuisCharlie by dem0n-be

TiN - Apologies by timsplosion
I wouldn't have gone with drones, since that's a government and not a religion, so I don't think it's a good analogy... but I still like this strip even if I would have chosen the Lord's Resistance Army or the IRA or possibly Anders Breivik. (Colbert Report) 

Je Suis Charlie by KendallHaleArt

on equal terms by Askell
English: Shut your trap!


Je Suis Charlie by DaggerPoint


Hommage a Charlie Hebdo by trallor
English: It must remain a safe weapon.

Je Suis Charlie by GraphicBrat

JeSuisCharlie by Ponchounette

Je suis Charlie by kinkajoomotion
In France, small print papers like Charlie Hebdo are known as "un canard" (a duck - although I think Americans would apocryphally call it a "tabloid" - I think most of us Americans think "tabloid" means "a lack of journalistic quality", it actually describes the publication's smaller page size). This is the hunger games Mockingjay symbol with the duck and pencil as substitutes for the mockingjay (fictional bird) which holds an arrow in it's beak. Full disclosure, I've only seen the first movie and haven't read the books, but I'm lead to believe that it's a symbol of revolution and resistance in the Hunger Games trilogy. - thanks to Faol-bigbadwolf for clarifying my translation of this one and making it much more meaningful :nod:

Je suis Charlie by ChrisMassuh2150

Hommage-Bichon CharlieHebdo copie by princekido
English: The New Heroes (In France, the movie Big Hero 6 was released with the title "Les Nouveaus Heros", so they're substituting the slain Charlie Hebdo cartoonists as the Big Hero 6 characters) - thanks to Faol-bigbadwolf for clarifying my translation of this one and making it much more meaningful :nod:

Je suis liberte by Ritualist

Ideas Are Bulletproof by avix
I love V for Vendetta. :nod:

Hommage Charlie by Urluberluch
English: They fire the weapon left, pass the pencil right!
EDIT: Thanks to NekoAmine for a better translation. In french at the top, the phrase "ils passant l'arme a gauche" is a french expression that literally translated means something to the effect of "they move the weapon to the left side", but the meaning is akin to the English expression "kick the bucket", describing the cartoonists. The phrase at the bottom literally translates to "the pencil on the right hand", combined with the gesture of placing that hand over their hearts, like we do in the US during the pledge of allegiance (though the gesture isn't region-specific).


This one is Spanish - "I splashed us all"?


And here's mine if you haven't seen it.

Je Suis Charlie by woohooligan
If you're not sure why Je Suis Charlie has become an international free speech movement, this is my explanation.
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GrendalUnleashed Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2015  Professional General Artist
Back then I spoke the phrase that portrayed a universal condemnation of polarised extreme opinion. The Hebdo incident remains an example of limited stupidity. I've been a cartoonist for the past three decades and to target me and my colleagues just because we view the world differently than your limited dictates you show how retarded you are!

Je suis...Grendal!

A cartoonist who will engage any and all representations!
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NekoAmine Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I thank you for choosing my comic strip, though my work is more a bad pun I'm exploiting than a way of enticing thought.

Here are corrections of translations:

#11: "Do you want some? It's kosher"
#12: "Qu'ils viennent!" could be translated "May they come!", in the meaning of "May they come! I'm not afraid for them!"
#18: "Où n'est pas Charlie?" means "Where Charlie is not?" or "Where is not Charlie?". (où = where)
#35: "Ils passent l'arme à gauche" (lit. "They switch the weapon to the left side") means "They died" (the equivalent of "They kick the bucket"). "Crayon main droite" : "the pencil on right hand (right=opposite to left)". Their right hand and pencil are on their heart. I don't remember what the hand on heart means, but I see it as a sign of respect, solemnity, devotion.
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GrendalUnleashed Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2015  Professional General Artist
Thanks for the qualification.

Je suis Charlie remains a potent reminder.

and thus your notes will live as a reminder to how these events will serve as a reminder for all that is to come!

One step forwards, ten thousand steps back. So is the future of the human ape!
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woohooligan Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Hi Neko! Thanks for the corrections. :hug:

I figured yours was just a pun about Exquisite Corpse, but I thought it was a joke the Charlie cartoonists would have enjoyed. :nod:
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GrendalUnleashed Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2015  Professional General Artist
And here we go again this time in Denmark!

To say, as has been widely mooted in the press, that this was jut a just a disturbed individual attempting a copycat of the Hebdo events is akin to an ostrich laying it's head on the sand.

To be targeted and murdered for expressing a creative/artistic opinion only ranks as a narrow-minded, dictatorial way of imposing subsequence to an alternative opinion.

As these incidents continue to occur it is the responsibility of artists of all media to gird their loins and not just continue to be productive but engaged in proving that Medieval attitudes have no place in the twenty-first century!

Satire is a form of engagement in a developing and evolving society and should not be repressed at the point of a gun.
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woohooligan Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
From one Sam to another, thank you!

Also, I hadn't heard about the Copenhagen shooting until you mentioned it here... I found this article (it may not the best one, but it got me up to speed) - latest.com/2015/02/copycat-att…

Thanks for bringing that to my attention. :nod:
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GrendalUnleashed Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2015  Professional General Artist
Events are moving fast and as I was mentioning Copenhagen there was a brutal act occurring in Syria with Egyptian workers, this has been escalated by the abduction of more people in the same region which I hate to say will result in a similar medieval act.

Now from one Sam to another did you know that 'Sam' comes from ancient Egypt (represented in hieroglyphs by two bolts of cloth and an owl) and means 'union with the Earth'...though it also has been interpreted as funeral too :D
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woohooligan Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Ha! That's funny about the Egyptian... In my case Sam is short for Samuel, which is Hebrew meaning "name of god", "heard by god" or possibly "god listens"... Though, knowing what I know of early Egyptian religion and culture, yeah, "funeral" might be a reasonable translation for "god listens". ;P I often think if you translated "ham sandwich" into the early Egyptian language, the end result would be "deceased remains of what once was a pig", as it seemed a requirement that anything they talked about had to be somehow in the context of death.
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LeandraArtemis Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2015   General Artist
Thank you for the mention (and the explain, it was exactly that). Thank you also for speak about the events in my country, free speech is so important ! (and sorry for my bad english  +_+) 
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woohooligan Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Mon plaisir. :hug:

Votre Anglais est meilleur que mon Français. +_+
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LeandraArtemis Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2015   General Artist
XD 
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Yokai-no-Red Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2015   General Artist
Thank you for your journal, for a lot of people, "Je suis Charlie" would be racist propaganda, while the true definition of the slogan is not to agree with terrorism, for my part, I do not accept at all this very stupid violence, and "be offended" is not an excuse for everything, real violence is much more shocking, and remains a very big problem..


what many people do not understand (or don't want to understand), is that this attack happened in a country that did not used to, I personally have never seen that before ... 

Then, of course, people are "tired" of hearing about it, but they should not make fun either, 

I have seen many who repeat again and again the same things: "they deserves it", "they were white trash racists people" and other bullshit..

and elsewhere, many people have an obsession about "they only draw the prophet, it's blasphemy" blah blah blah! okay, but blasphemy don't exist in France, and CHdraw all religions in general and not only one.
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woohooligan Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Right, France has been remarkably free of these kinds of terrorist attacks.

I'm assuming you're younger than about 60? (It's a pretty safe guess, given the average age of internet users, much less DeviantArt members.) ... There was a train bombing in 1961 that killed 28 people, but as I mentioned to a friend of mine, I'm 40 years old and still wouldn't be born for another 13 years. Even if I were in my 60s, I would have been a child when it happened and likely my memory of it would be cloudy at this point. Most of the people who would have vivid memories of it would have already died. So to go from having virtually no terrorist activity (a guy attacked a police office there with a knife recently and only managed to injure but not kill 3 officers), to suddenly having 20 people killed at one time is a real shock! The only thing I think I could really compare that to would be our shock in the US after 9-11, when most of us Americans thought of bomb threats as pranks or as something that happens in far-off places. :nod:

And I'm not sure that offending Islam is always more dangerous than offending Christianity, when you consider people like Anders Breivik or the Lord's Resistance Army. :nod: And while I think even racists should have the right to spew their rhetoric, I think you're right that certainly especially someone like Hebdo, who target everyone with their satire, should be allowed to do so. :nod:
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Yokai-no-Red Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2015   General Artist
I had not been born in the 60s ^^
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woohooligan Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Yeah, I was born in '74. ^^
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Yokai-no-Red Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2015   General Artist
i was* sorry for my english.
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woohooligan Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Oh. So do you have any memories of the train bombing in '61? I can't imagine they would be vivid nearly 60 years later. (re: English - c'est rien ... mieux que mon français)
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Yokai-no-Red Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2015   General Artist
No sorry, i don't have memories of this event.
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woohooligan Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
:nod: That's what I was saying - you were probably too young to have any clear memory of it now. Which makes the Hebdo shooting all the more shocking, since that many people haven't died in a terrorist attack in France in your whole life!
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Ritualist Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Great text. I had been debating the idea of free speech with my brother lately. He's basicly for "partial free speech", you know - like banning hate speech in public. His argument is basicly that most people are sheep and they will easily follow a demagouge. I argued aganist him several things you said here (like who will decide for you what the hate speech is) but his argument about people being sheep does hold some merit. On the other hand, I do consider that if we don't let people making their own choices (like hearing hate speech and accepting/rejecting it) we will never make real progress as mankind.

Thanks for putting my muscled lady of free speech here :)
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woohooligan Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks, Rit. You're welcome. Thanks for sharing her. ;)

I agree that progress for humanity really does mean learning (as a species) to let people make their own choices -- specifically to say whatever they want to say and being willing to disagree without feeling the need to silence them or worse resort to violence. I think the strongest response to disagreement should be either yelling or ignoring. Anything beyond that (including arrests), is when we run into real problems.

I always find the notion of "people are sheep" kind of troubling personally... everyone says it and I'm pretty sure they believe it, however, obviously no one who says this believes this about themselves. You obviously don't believe that you are a sheep, right? So if you believe that people are sheep, and other people believe it of you, then who's right? Moreover, most of the people I've seen (much less my friends), really don't exhibit the behavior of sheep. Not really... It's true that most people don't take the time to study the science on a subject before committing themselves to a firm opinion, but once they've committed to that opinion (generally without evidence), they often become intractable, which is the opposite of sheep-like behavior. I think if people were sheep, then when Obama stands up at the podium and says "we should have public health care insurance here in the US", everyone should just nod and agree, but instead 50% of us here in the us shout "FUCK YOU MISTER PRESIDENT, AND ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY, I HOPE YOU DIE SLOWLY, PAINFULLY, AND ALONE! YOU'LL NEVER TAKE MY FREEDOM OR MY GUNS, MOTHERFUCKER!" Ahh yes... I remember the last time I was threatened by a sheep. They're stubborn. ;P

But people frequently express things that don't make a whole lot of sense -- or say one thing and do another without even realizing it. There's a great old expression that illustrates this pretty well. The expression is:

:bulletblue: Life's Goal is not to arrive at the grave in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, thoroughly worn out, yelling "what a ride!!"

Virtually everyone agrees with this statement... and then go to their doctor and get a prescription for statin drugs to help lower their triglycerides. ;P Arriving preserved sounds boring and they'd much rather the adventure described at the end, but when it comes right down to it, the handful of people who actually live that way (rock stars for example) tend to die young and childless and not contribute to the gene pool. Hence the reason why what people say is a notoriously poor predictor of what they'll actually do. It's not necessarily because people are lying (although they do that too), but rather, people genuinely don't know their own minds.

Of course the very next thing that most of us say is "oh that's interesting! But I'm not like that." Proving of course that we're like that. :ohmygod:

Anyway, sorry for the long-reply, I got carried away. :bucktooth:
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Faol-bigbadwolf Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2015  Student Traditional Artist
Thank you for the mention !
I'm going to try to explain my drawing in spite of my deplorable English... The yellow picture "l'amour plus fort que la haine" is a Charlie Hebdo's cover, made in answer to the arson at Charlie, a few years ago. My strip tells a discution with a friend. I made a crap joke about the event, before say sorry. But she said no, it's exactly the moment for shit jokes, it's Charlie, They would prefer that we continue to laugh at everything, even at that.

Voila voila.

And 'cause I'm french and can understand "french private joke":

>In "Hommage-Bichon" by Princekido, the title "les nouveaux héros" is an allusion as Big Hero 6 (they have translate the title in "les nouveaux héros" in France. *sic*.)
>In the picture by kinkajoomotion (the hungergame logo), the mockingjay with an arrow is replaced by a duck with a pencil. In french, a little newspaper like Charlie is called "un canard" (a duck).
>In "L'hommage des cancres" by Saint-Helens, from left to right: An extremist islamist (Charia (sharia, sheriat, in english?) look like Charlie), Marine Lepen (a fascist politician) (if she could have a "regrettable accident", that there...), an extremist christian ("Jesus" look like "je suis") and Dieudonné, a politically incorrect humorist (but with a badly reputation) (I think that it is a jerk and an author of the drawing also, probably...)

I hope that this comment will be useful ! =)
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woohooligan Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Merci, Auriela ! :hug:

This is very useful. :nod:

I updated the journal to include the extra information for your work as well as for the other three you mentioned. That extra information makes them much more meaningful.

The last one in partiuclar, "L'hommage des cancres" also gave me more information about an episode of the Daily Show here in the US and my description for it is now much longer (five whole paragraphs).

Maybe you can answer another question for me though... does "je suc Charlie" imply Dieudonné giving sexual favors to Charlie, or is it an insult like the English "suck my dick"? They said on the Daily Show episode that Dieudonné expressed sympathy with the shooters (and that's why police arrested him), so I suspect "je suc Charlie" is an insult.

Merci encore !
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Faol-bigbadwolf Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2015  Student Traditional Artist
Your welcome ! And yes, "je suce Charlie" is just an insult...
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woohooligan Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Merci encore ! :hug: :heart:
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Scipia Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2015
Well, it was indeed a reference to Magritte's work.
But I wrote "This is a caricature of a prophet" because it was not a prophet, when he wrote "this is not a pipe" because it was a pipe :)

I just wanted to underline the absurdity, the nonsense, of killing, because you think some drawing is offensive. After all, we don't know if the Mahomet of Charlie Hebdo is even the Muhammad of Islam. It's just a fictionnal character of this hebdo
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woohooligan Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Oh, I see now. I didn't quite catch the nuance in your expression when I first saw it.

I really like your use of the symbolism. I think joining Hebdo and Magritte is pure brilliance! :nod:
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TheDJTC Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2015
Well I didn't know about the first attack. Like the only real terrorism I heard with cartoonists was about the swiss dude that drew the bomb turban.

I still think it was about as random as MLP becoming popular or Weegee becoming a meme. Since there's been plenty of oppression of free speech for quite a while. Some of it is just societal stuff, but a lot of it is government or terrorist supported. The textbook thing is kind of a reflection of the education system being worth a hill of beans. That and the only thing I've seen come out of this is people drawing art (Well, outside of France, they're doing stuff which they should. It's their country)

Though the whole shaving you down to fit a peg rather than nurture growth is a whole 'nother thing. Something I haven't really heard anyone talk about.

The one thing I never got was... if Muhammad prohibited illustrations of himself... how do people know what he looks like? Like it should be impossible to draw the dude. XD
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woohooligan Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Oh you meant "why Charlie Hebdo and not Salman Rushdie?"... why wasn't there a big "I am Rushdie" campaign?

I think it's mostly because of the compactness and eminently meme-ableness of the Hebdo cartoons. People heard about the fatwa that called for the death of anyone associated with the book (the Satanic Verses) on TV and in newspapers, but there were three big barriers to a widespread support campaign. First, he had titled his book "the Satanic Verses" and I suspect that put a lot of people off and prevented them from researching it any further, it was just "the Satanic Verses? You've lost me." The second issue is that he wrote novels and although he'd received awards, people really didn't care about Rushdie's work outside of a niche group of literary snobs. If you were curious about why someone had targeted people associated with his book, you likely had to do a lot of reading to get a real answer. With Charlie Hebdo, it only takes a few seconds, because you only have to show someone the Charia Hebdo cover page. The final barrier is that the fatwa against the book happened in 1989, still 5 years before "internet" had become a household word, so there weren't any convenient social media outlets that could have greased the wheels for spread of information about Rushdie.

And in retrospect, I'll offer a fourth reason... while there have been other terrorist attacks in France, the country has been remarkably little effective terrorist activity in France in general over the past century. In the sum total of the entire 20th century, from 1900 to 2000, less than 100 people have died in about 25 terrorist attacks there. The largest ever single death-toll in a terrorist attack in France happened in a train bombing in June of 1961 that killed only 28 people (compared to 2,996 dead in the 9-11 attack). That's a long enough period of time that anyone who's still alive to remember it was probably a child at the time and not paying much attention, so most adults don't have vivid memories of it. If they're aware of recent terrorist attacks in their country, they seem to be mostly much smaller, less effective attacks against police and military personnel, (there was a guy who attacked a police office with a knife in December for example). What I'm getting at here is that the French were really shocked by this, an attack against a civilian target with a gigantic body-count (20 people - that many people haven't died in one of these attacks since the train in 1961). Their own level of sheer shock about the scope of this attack probably contributed quite a bit to the campaign's spread.

On the subject of Muhammed, actually nobody does know what Muhammed really looked like. At best we can get an approximation of what he would have looked like based on the general appearance of people in his ethnic group at the time he supposedly lived, which is the same thing we can do with Jesus, since there's no real information about what he might have looked like (despite the shroud of Turin, which is probably actually an early photograph of Leonardo da Vinci). But knowing (since he's described in the bible as looking enough like his disciples that soldiers had to ask people to point him out), that Jesus would have been VERY dark skinned and with verry different facial features (rounded mostly), hasn't made any sort of dent in our painting him as a super-Aryan with white skin, high cheek bones and an angular jaw. ;P
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TheDJTC Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2015
Yeah I guess that makes sense. Still dunno why Americans care when we don't care about our own problems, let alone something like Mexico or Venezuela.

Though I guess a lot of people are sick of war and stuff. Like I know very few people that are concerned with terrorists anymore.
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woohooligan Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
I think we sometimes feel overwhelmed by our own problems ... and I think we're often not aware of our own problems because our news media often aren't really reporting them. I'm not sure that's the same as not caring. But in particular, when there's a sudden movement to deal with something that seems new for one reason or another, that doesn't seem like some intractable problem that we're hearing about for the bazillionth time, we'll get behind it. Remember, it happened a few years ago with Kony (the Lord's Resistance Army that I've mentioned) -- now that's the one I thought felt "random". ;P
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TheDJTC Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2015
Yeah, that's the same thing to me.

Everyone gets upset, then in a month no one cares. I've become so jaded of movements because of this.
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woohooligan Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
I don't think they stop caring, I think they get busy. We have to carve time out of our day if we want to show support for a movement like this. Most of us can't do that in perpetuity.
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TheDJTC Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2015
With things like that, not caring enough has around the same result as not caring.

Like, if I don't pester my congressmen to fix things, I'd might as well not care. The extent of my care on things is talking, which really doesn't do much except for the off-chance I enlighten someone who can do something, or some sort of chain reaction.

In any case, there's so much crap in the world and no one around here has the luxury to help others. No one really can care.

AUnno man.
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woohooligan Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
What are you talking about no one has the luxury to help others? I help other people all the time. I give people critiques, I use my voting power in ways I believe will benefit everyone the most (not just myself), I contribute to awareness campaigns when I can.

Don't underestimate the value of chain reactions. :nod: Any political progress in any meaningful direction requires quite a lot of general discussion and slow movement of the social norms. Gay marriage for example -- it couldn't become law until the idea was strongly supported by the average person in our society. Today that's the case and soon it will be the law of the land. But getting there required a lot of people to maintain the opinion that it was the right thing to do and to continue to promote the idea. That doesn't mean that you have to be out waving a "gay marriage banner" in the street every day, just that you express your support when the subject comes up. If you happen to have the time to create art expressing your support for it, well, that's just gravy. :D
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hooksnfangs Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hmmm.... I skipped passed this because I really had no clue what was going on with this (reason why I didn't comment on the comic or vote on the poll).
But great explanation about this topic. It really opened my mind! I really think it's really sad that some folks get death threats for just having an opinion.
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woohooligan Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
:nod: Or in the case of the folks who worked at Salman Rushdie's publishing company, just for having a job. :O_o:

Well, thanks Ricky. It's good to know you found it enlightening. :hug:
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PyroTwilight Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2015
While I feel bad that folks were killed for satire and I actually support just about every cartoon I've seen of theirs I really wish they didn't do things like draw Mohammed even in jest when trying to poke fun at the extremists. That's just an insult to folks who are Muslim including the average Muslim who does nothing wrong.

And sure the argument could go "But they're not Muslim so why should they bother avoiding that?" And well to that I'd say "So...putting out things you know will hurt people of a specific group who are not criminals nor deserve the ire isn't wrong?" I mean it's not exactly hard to make fun of extremists without trying to poke at the religion they act like they follow.

But I digress. It is still a dumb thing to kill or be killed over in the end.
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woohooligan Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
Thank you, Andreas.

I disagree that a caricature of Mohammed is hurting anyone. I could just as easily choose to feel hurt by caricatures of Americans, white guys, nerds, men in general, agnostics or any of a number of other things that I identify with. If I feel hurt by those things, then that's on me, since I've obviously not been actually injured by a drawing. It's just an expression. If the extremists (or anyone else) feel "buthurt" about a caricature, imo that's on them, not on the person making the caricature.

I suspect the majority of Muslims really don't care, just like the majority of Christians don't really care when Atheists caricature and criticize them.
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