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I think everyone who has seen "The Lion King" and "The Lion King 2: Simba's Pride" movies can agree that "The Lion Guard" doesn't do a very good job with fitting in there. I have only seen all of "The Return of the Roar" and several clips from some other episodes. But that's enough to conclude that this TV show fails miserably as a Lion King series. I'm sure the majority of my fellow Millenials from this fanbase agree with me, but I know there are Lion King fans who nonetheless enjoy and love this new series. Fans who don't think it sucks. Good for you, guys, if you can find something to enjoy in it. You manage to be much happier than the rest of us. So, I respect your opinion and feelings but allow me to explain why I think this show sucks. And what that big fat 'but' in the title is all about.

"The Lion Guard" adds magical superpowers and mythos that doesn't fit in the world of those first two films. In "The Lion King" and "The Lion King 2" the only magic that happened was Rafiki being able to summon Mufasa's spirit and talk to that spirit. It was spiritual and very specific kind of magic and the only character who was able to practice it was Rafiki who clearly was the equivalent of a shaman in a human tribe. But "The Lion Guard" suddenly introduced a full-blown magical roar ability that has been passed down for generations and that makes the Earth shake and characters fly miles away and so on. Linked to a magical "tattoo" type of symbol on the fur coat. That's ridiculous and so not the way The Lion King universe originally was meant to be like. This superpower addition took away maturity and timeless depth from The Lion King universe.

Also, in this TV show a spirit doesn't need to be summoned anymore. Kion is able to see and talk to his grandfather Mufasa just about any time he pleases. Mufasa just pops up in the sky. What the hell?!

Also, Kion seems to be some sort of a lion version of Superman. There's a scene where he is a cub approximately the same size as cub Simba was in "The Lion King", but managed to neck-punch Nuka - a lion at least three times his size - several meters away from him and apparently almost knocking Nuka unconscious. And he did that with little to no effort. Oh, and apparently he had also pinned Nuka down earlier. How the *beep* does that cub defy the laws of physics? I mean, note that we're not talking about his magical roar now but about his body and size.

Then there's characterisations of old characters that are messed up big time. In example, Zira. She behaves downright politely, and even helps Kion to explore the extend of the magical roar's powers. Sure she's still a villain but her personality is almost nothing like the Zira in the movie though during the time period of this show, in the TLK2 movie, she was raging and bitterly plotting the death of Simba. Forget the rage, too. In this TV show Zira gently tells Nuka to "play nice". She's portrayed as an actual motherly person whom Nuka is somewhat afraid of simply because she's his mom and he doesn't want to get caught misbehaving. Whereas in "The Lion King 2" movie she was intimidating all of her children and especially Nuka and Kovu were deeply afraid of her because she was a psychotic bitch. I'm sure toddlers were and are watching "The Lion King 2". Why did Zira have to be watered-down like that?

And then there's the fact that Kion ever entered the Outlands to boss Zira around in the first place, when the Lion Guard was supposed to guard the Pridelands and not the area around it. And why does the honeybadger know more about the magic roar than the boy who actually has the roar? You'd think that Simba would have told Kion all about the roar as the very first thing upon finding out that the boy had it!

I'm sure there are boatloads of other contradictions and f-ups, those are just a few I was able to observe based on the little I've seen of the show.

Then there's the matter of animation. I didn't expect the same quality as the first two movies have because this is only a TV show, but I almost felt like weeping when I viewed the clips. The Lion Guard's drawings are so harsh and flat. And the animation is...Well, it's not bad as is, except for the walk cycles and jumping/leaping animations which are quite far from professional level. I think it all would be passable if this was just a random original animated series. But for a Disney show and especially for a Lion King series it's very distracting.

I would have expected more from a Disney produced animated series when it comes to the visual side of it. Especially when that series is supposed to link to The Lion King and The Lion King 2. I saw the clips but I still can't believe how lazy and clumsy the drawing and animation is! It's like watching a mini-death of The Lion King movie's animation simply because this show's is sooooo bad in comparison! I know, I know, it doesn't really take away from the majestic, award-worthy animation and drawings of the first film but it feels like it kinda does. And I know the TV show division (which also made The Lion King 2: Simba's Pride) doesn't get the same budgets as the theatrical movie creatng division and I've heard their budgets are smaller now than they were in the '90s. But this is The Lion King related - you'd think they would have granted this project a proper budget! Especially as it's supposed to be a 20th anniversary thing!

I can't believe The Walt Disney Company cares this little about one of its biggest and most beloved classics of all time. I mean, even in general but especially when making something that is supposed to celebrate the 20th anniversary of said film. I don't even understand why they decided to produce a celebration through Disney Junior as in aim it at just very little kids. I'm not saying that adults couldn't or shouldn't enjoy this TV show, just that it's clearly targetted at very little kids and most likely to appeal to that target group. But "The Lion King" was a HUGE hit of a family film that had tons to enjoy for people of all ages and ended up being based on one of the most famous adult plays of all time - (Shakespeare's Hamlet) - as well as on some Biblical stories.

It was a film that gained life-long fans, especially from us '80s and '90s kids, who are now grown up and learned to appreciate the adult aspects of the film along with our parents and are currently also nostalgic about our childhoods. Another, seriously made movie like "The Lion King 2" is, would have served much, much better as a celebration as well as been more logical path to take for a celebration. As well as been much better in terms of making financial profit. Because The Lion Guard is NOTHING like the thing it's supposed to celebrate and thus does not appeal to most of its original fanbase. Add to that all those major fails in the story-continuity matters.

What were they thinking?!

BUT...

There are two things that make me appreciate the existence of this show. As much as I do wish it was executed with more passion and respect towards the original film and its older fans, there are two things in this show that nonetheless serve the fandom well.

1.) Kion

---> As stupid and unfitting as the character's execution is, his creation by The Walt Disney Company and existence itself packs an extra punch against the frustratingly stubborn Kopa believers.

2.) Zira's story.

---> In one of the episodes of "The Lion Guard" Rafiki explains that Zira and the other Outlanders were exiled because they were loyal only to Scar and claimed Scar as the rightful king...and because she attacked SImba who voiced his disagreement. I personally would have preferred no attack on the king but simply the siding with Scar. But THANK GAWD there is now an official Disney explanation for the exile.

Because it should finally put an end to the nonsensical fanfiction theory about murdered/kidnapped Kopa as the reason for the exile - and above all to the Kopa fans' habit of parading that purely fanfiction theory as "official" and "what really happened". Not all Kopa fans are doing that, but oh so many are while there are also some too trusting people who are not Kopa fans but just believe them.

Of course, Zira's story from "The Lion Guard" is not canon to "The Lion King 2: Simba's Pride" because that movie's creators are not the creators of this TV show. But nonetheless that explanation is from The Walt Disney Company and thus the official and most canonical there can be without the TLK2's creators coming forward to give their own. And thus there is no longer any room for anyone who has sense in their head, to believe that there was someone named Kopa who got murdered, kidnapped, or anything. I mean, there hasn't really been since 1998 when the cub was publicly and officially confirmed as Kiara...but it obviously wasn't enough for countless fans. Perhaps this full-blown official explanation for the exile, is?

..........Though I'm sure there'll still be some die-hard Kopa lovers who refuse to acknowledge any facts that don't support their personal preferences. But Kion and "The Lion Guard"'s existence give me hope that at least some come to their senses and this fandom can finally start a less conspiracy-theory ridden era.

"The Lion Guard" , fortunately, is only a spin-off TV show - an alternate universe, while the cub at the end of the first film continues being Kiara when only the first two films combined are regarded. But the fact that "The Lion Guard" and Kion are official The Walt Disney Company creations and link to the movies - has thus provided an actual official male cub option in the animated format for those who refuse to accept that the cub is Kiara. Thus, hopefully, managing to finally silence a few of the craziest and most stubborn fan theories out there. (Which I really wouldn't have ever minded if they weren't thrown around as if they were canon/official. I have a passion for the actual canon/official story-line and hate it when it is lied about.)

Or maybe this show just gives birth to a bunch of whole new crazy fan theories and the other facts keep getting ignored...Time will show. But I'm prone to optimism.

If you are confused about Simba's children, here's a video I recently made:
The TRUE story of Kopa, Kiara and Kion (The Lion King Official Source Facts)

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I forgot to talk about one especially awful thing about this new TV show, because while I watched the pilot episode I was so disinterested and irritated due to its lack of quality and respect for the universe the first film created...that my brain had mostly shut off by the final scene and thus I was spared the worst of it for the time being - as in actually registered what happened in that scene only after watching someon's video review. I guess my brain was actively trying to cope with the awfulness that it had witnessed so far and thus the final scene became just mindless action mess happening in front of my eyes.

I don't want any more new Lion King stuff for the franchise if this is the direction Disney wants to take it. I mean, this isn't the first case. Already back in 2004 with "The Lion King 1½" movie which came around the 10th anniversary and is the previous instalment from this TV show, they chose to go with a parody of the first film and an offensive fart joke in it. (Granted, that TLK1½'s fart joke is actually clever and funny which is why I can stand it, and because it didn't crap on an emotional scene - but nonetheless it crapped on one of the most majestic scenes in the first movie and thus I wish it didn't happen.) And now this major f-up of a show and an even more - muuuuch more, offensive fart joke?

So...In the final scene of the pilot episode, "The Return of the Roar", the climax is that Kiara gets trapped in a stampede of antelopes stirred by hyenas. An obvious call-back to cub Simba's experience with the wildebeest. How does Kiara get out of that? Does her father, Simba, attempt to rescue her like his father did before him? NO. Simba just stands there. The child honeybadger friend of Kion's makes his way next to Kiara and...he lets out a massive fart which makes the antelope scatter away from Kiara. I'm not kidding. That. Happened. Oh, and after that Simba doesn't even focus on his daughter and make sure she's alright, or at least I don't recall him doing so. Even though the bird member of the Lion Guard literally yelled that Kiara is hurt, before the farting thing ended the danger. Simba not only did absolutely nothing to save and nurture his young daughter but he also only focuses on giving his blessing to Kion's choice of the Lion Guard members.

I mean, can you even GET more offensive than doing that kind of a call-back to a scene that portrays a father unhesitantly risking his life and limb to save his child's life, the brother of that father maliciously murdering him, and the little boy witnessing his father falling to an ugly, slow and painful death. (Assuming Mufasa didn't die from the fall. Anyway, his body would have been mangled in real life but it is a G rated film, so...) Not only does the scene include all that but it was immensely powerfully executed, bringing the viewer up close with all of the characters and the action and showing the death-fall and the body on screen. So..."The Lion Guard" calling back to that with A FART JOKE and making Simba utterly useless and almost careless in the face of his child's potential death!?! I say "almost careless" because he does at one point half-heartedly calls out her name...While her mother, Nala, just says "Oh no!" and also does nothing.

Seriously!.

Remember how panicked Mufasa sounded and looked when Scar told him that Simba was at the stampede? Remember how terrified Mufasa looked when he saw his boy hanging on to the dead tree and how encouragingly he shouted out "Hold on, Simba!" and without a second of hesitation leaped into the stampede, taking bad hits in his efforts to get to him?

There's no curse word in any tongue in existence that describes what "The Lion Guard" did here. This is just about the most disgraceful thing I can imagine when it comes to broadening a fictional franchise/story. Especially one like "The Lion King" that was created to reflect human suffering, responsibility, family love/bond, and bravery.

Even so, for years I've been so frustrated with the situation with the "Kopa believers'" stubborness and huge lies - that I can still appreciate those two points I made about how this show's existence may help the fandom. I just really truly hope it does and really makes a difference in that matter. Because if it doesn't, that disgraceful scene and joke exists and nothing even nearly good enough is coming out of this show to even attempt to balance it out. Even that difference-making wouldn't really...I mean, come on. That episode's creators come off downright heartless because of that scene and fart joke.

Why does Disney want to celebrate these decade-anniversary milestones of one of the best and most beloved animated classics they've ever produced, by almost literally crapping on it?

WHY?
I have also posted this on Fanpop as bendaimmortal, and on The Lion King Source as Kieran (if this gets approved there.)
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EnderEmpire Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2017
EAT SNICKERS!
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EAT SNICKERS!
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EAT SNICKERS!
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EAT SNICKERS!
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EAT SNICKERS!
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EAT SNICKERS!
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EAT SNICKERS!
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EAT SNICKERS!
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NewSea-ANother Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2017
I was about to give it a chance, but then it screwed everything up...  Glad to see I'm not the only one who doesn't like TLG.

And... Kopa is still my favorite among Simba's kids, just because of lack of decent competition (at least for me). He's just so blank that everyone can write on him whatever they want. And he brings me nostalgia. 
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EnderEmpire Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2017
You arent the one that only doesnt like TLG?
Look buddy,as a TLG fan i am just finding it a bit funny you people could even take it this far.....Hitler gets less hate than this........
I am here to say one thing: 
FIRST
YOU HAVE NO REASON TO WATCH!
SECOND!
It isnt even on the front page.....So you can easily ignore it.........

Also how does it ruin movies?

IT IS A BLOODY KIDS SHOW!
And if you decide to watch the movies again,it isnt like Kion will pop outa nowhere and be a part of that movie....It will stay the same.

And for the fighting part..Season 2 has improved it and made it a bit more realistic......But still this is a KIDS SHOW! How do you expect them to show realistic fights? If they showed realistic fights then it would be 13+ or something.

This show isnt meant to fill your cannonshippings or so. 

As a Kion fan, I do also like Kopa. But you people always have to give me a reason to start to hate Kopa dont you?
Dont you understand? Evertime someone neutral about this FANDOM WAR  is starting to hate Kopa )If they are Kion fans who actually like Kopa or simply people who like both) start to hate Kopa each HATEart you people do. HATEart also does nothing expect making you look like whining childeren. Each HATEart against Kion from Kopa fans simply make me a grow a little hate for Kopa.
At the end i am starting to think i will create HATEart..But that is not very likely to happen actually. Because i know that drawing HATEart would only be a waste of time and effort.
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NewSea-ANother Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2017
You don't have to spam so much, it looks childish. And calm down, I don't even watch it. I have a lot of more important things in my life than this. I don't see any reason for you to overreact like this. Everybody has their opinion, and you can't force anyone to change it. Did I show up in some TLG-fans community screaming "TLG SUCKS!!!111"? 
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EnderEmpire Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2017
Also, is there a TLG-Hater community?
I mean you arent screaming it at the TLK community,so where?
Also for that overreact part..........Please look at all the hateart for Kion and reply me later.
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NewSea-ANother Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2017
I'm just commenting on the post, no less, no more. You're too emocional. Calm down, kid. 
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EnderEmpire Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2017
.......Do dots mean anger?
Alright...
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EnderEmpire Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2017
But isnt complaining about a thing that still exists childish?
Please explain.
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EnderEmpire Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2017
An opinion is a person's opinion.
Not over a thousand people's opinion.
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NewSea-ANother Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2017
Why do you ever have to care about my personal opinion? I don't force my opinion to anyone, I just said that I'm glad to meet someone with the same opinion. Does it insult somebody? 
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EnderEmpire Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2017
Also what is the most thing you people can do? Raid DISNEY with guns? Make Kopa cannon? Assasinate the president and ban TLG from that country? Try to censor kion? 

Thought the same. You people most likely arent capable of doing many things expect drawing HATEart.
I dare one of you to make a video about trying attack disney with a group of Kopa fans. You'll get arrested. Simple.
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EnderEmpire Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2017
Now excuse me..Imma flag this place.
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EnderEmpire Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2017
Welp. Calm down you all.
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TheBendyFandum Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
I have the same reaction as you did with TLG. To me it ruined both TLK movies all together. I hate how in the actual movie,there is no OnE with the Roar of the god Damn Elders...though when it comes with Simbas dumbass,obnoxious,and very ugly ass kids,they give the middle cub...a unknown power. I also hate that they changed the god damn concept! Not to mention they completely ruined and maybe let the fans of these characters just hate them...yes I'm talking about Zira,Scar,Nuka,Vitani,the hyenas themselves,Simbas personality,Nalas unparently additude and of course,Kiaras know it all shit. We don't ever even SEE Nala anymore! Why not break up with her..and forget about her all together for shits sake! Simba just acts like a drunk ass acholic who just seems to fuck up his cubs life,not just that,we all can tell Simba likes his god damn daughter,who is now the female Simba. There's not even ONE scene Simba is kind and loving towards his son! (Ok let me take that back,just once.) I liked it better when they only had TLK 1 and 2. If this series keeps up,I'm done with TLK all together. I'm honestly a fan who got depressed and angry over this low money series.
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I agree, and what made me angry is how they made Nala into some kind of a damsel-in-distress for Kion. Come on, why do they keep forgetting how badass she can be? Nala's potential has been flushed down once again.
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TheBendyFandum Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
Hey, I'm glad we're on the same side here. 
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NewSea-ANother Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2017
Same. I'm just tired of seeing it everywhere. It's hard to ignore when the fandom is so hyped about it.
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TheBendyFandum Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
Exactly. Like, there are more haters then likes here...why are people supporting this'll stupid show? After what happened to Scar and Zira?
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wolfMancub Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2017
Hey, I have added something that I feel is important, to the end of this article/deviation. After the video link.
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FlashtheSkyscale Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2017  Student General Artist
I think TLG isn't great either... 
1. The mark on the shoulders is just ew. Hello? TLK is supposed to be somewhat realistic. In terms of markings, that is. 

2. The magic powers... Where do I even begin?

3. Where did Kion even come from, like what? Is he the same age as Kiara? That wouldn't make sense considering Kiara is gonna be Queen. Wouldn't a male the same age get first priority?

4. Fuli's design... Cheetahs have some fluffy fur on their necks and shoulders. And while I know she's a king cheetah, her markings still look more leopard like. And I just don't like the design of her face... Idk how to describe it... It's just too triangular. 

5. Nala gets her butt kicked by three teenage hyenas. Yeah, I just can't see that...

6. Zira's pride gets beat up by a single cub. Again, what?

7. Zira looks bald without her head stripe. Seriously, Disney, whats up with that? Zira looks horrid. And I loved TLK 2 Zira. 

8. All the characters look too cutesy. They looked fine in the movies, why change them? 

9. Uhhh... Shenzi, Banzai, and Ed? Did they just cease to exist? 

10. Bunga. I can't be the only one who finds him weird, right?

I do like a few things, though. 
1. Jasiri. Finally, I good hyena! I love Jasiri! 

2. Fuli. Hate her design, but I like the fact that there's now a cheetah in the mix
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wolfMancub Featured By Owner Edited Feb 10, 2017
No, the gender/sex of the cub doesn't necessarely matter at all. Nothing in the first movie confirms that a male cub would be first in line if arriving with or after female sibling(s). Yes, Mufasa refers only to the great kings of the past and their guidance, not to any queens - but that could as well be because the movie is called The Lion KING and Simba was a male who would be more comfortable turning to past rulers of his own gender. And no, I don't mean that in a sexist way. Just similar to the bond and understanding between the same sex parent and child in comparison to the bond and understanding between the opposite sex parent and child. There's a difference, for a very natural, biological/brain/mentality reason. To me it seems that in The Lion King universe the first in line for the throne after the parent is whoever is born first and then if that child dies before claiming the throne or having a child, it goes down thhrough the siblings by whoever is the next oldest, regardless of the gender/sex.
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KashimusPrime Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Read what you had to say about Kopa on your video. And while you are correct. I find it really hard to believe that eMail from the author because it was sourced by Werebereus and he's known to bastardize information to make him sound right and enforce his theories as canon. The cub at the end of TLK I actually did have a gender in previous scripts. It was suppose to be male and was called male but it never had a name. And during production of TLK II that cub was going to be named Chaka but was cut due to plot confliction. 
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wolfMancub Featured By Owner Edited Feb 10, 2017
Thar e-mail was sourced by me. I personally contacted Alex Simmons by e-mail asking the questions I list above the response. And that's Mr. Simmons' reply. Completely untouched other than painting over my own e-mail address and the red circles I used to highlight the most essential Kopa bits. I oroginaly brought that e-mail up and linked it to The Lion King Pride Forums under my username Kieran. Not sure if that forum still exists, though. But I'm quite sure it was also I who first linked it to this dA group into some Kopa related topic or poll or something, although I'm not entirely sure - that might have been Werebereus. However - if it's linked from the Photobucket account KieranTheWolf, it's genuine and untouched as that's my Photobucket account and the very first place I ever published it (to link to on The Lion King Pride Forums.)

And anyone who looks around the online fandom can see that in things like this Kopa matter I have always been one to back up my arguments with verifiable facts and by doing throrough research. And of course with common sense but I prefer facts if they're available. And my decision to e-mail Alex Simmns was exactly to gain even more facts for the fandom. I believe I have built a trustworthy image for myself in this online fandom, (because I am), but if anyone still doubts all they have to do is e-mail that e-mail screenshot to Alex Simmons and ask him if it's for real. I'm sure he can recall that seeing to how delighted he was back then, to receive my e-mail and our interest in his creation. :)

Also, where do you get that info that it was ever called a male in previous scripts? I have a copy of the August 1993 script version where they don't make any gender/sex reference but simply call it "the cub".
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KashimusPrime Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The fandom could use more people that don't try to edit the sources to make them sound right or theories canon. 

I believe I downloaded both on a website somewhere, The King of the Jungle and the following script revision that came after it. I believe it was in TKOTJ that stated the cub was male. 
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wolfMancub Featured By Owner Edited Feb 10, 2017
Ah. So, if we were to get technical, the cub was never intented to be male in "The Lion King". Because the project was going for a remarkably different story back when it was still called King of the Jungle, wasn't it? I'm really asking, because I don't think I've read those script versions - I'm just in that impression / recall major differences from the documentaries/DVD extras I've seen. Anyway, what really matters is that the cub had become genderless in concept before the film was finished and released.
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Aye, back then it was suppose to be a tribute to Kimba/Leo the white lion. Simba was even suppose to be white in the beginning. But things bottomed out so they decided to tell their own king lion story. Kimba isn't the only king of the Jungle after all since the title has been used since the time of the romans. In the KOTJ script if memory serves correct, the subjects Simba's family ruled over were treated more like prey than equal individuals we see in TLG and the end game was that Simba would come to respect his subjects after reclaiming his family's throne from the rogue Scar. Their surname Ndona even suggests this as it's Xhosa for abasing. 
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CaptainRexSinatra Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I honestly prefer Timon and Pumbaa over the lion guard. The only things I really like from TLG are the villains and the side characters like rafiki and zazu. I don't like anyone from the guard aside from Kion and the bird. Everyone else I like to pretend never existed. 
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wolfMancub Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2017
Yeah...I've always felt that Timon and Pumbaa are over-rated as characters and their spin-off TV show is...well, not fitting for The Lion King universe but then again it doesn't even mean to be. It's obvious it was made for humour purposes based on the duo's comic relief side which I guess is the reason they are so popular. (I personally appreciate them for more indepth reasons, though it is good that they provided comic relief for the movie that was very dark and heavy otherwise.) The Lion Guard on the other hand tries to actually be a part of the movies' storyline and universe, but fails in every which way. So yeah. Timon and Pumbaa would be my choice too, out of these two options.
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SchrodingersMeerkat Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Lion Guard was the Lion King cartoon I always wanted since I was a kid and got stuck with that Timon & Pumbaa mess I like to pretend doesn't exist.
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wolfMancub Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2017
Really? As much as I dislike The Lion Guard, I'm sincerely glad for you. It's always awesome to have a childhood dream come true. :)
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SchrodingersMeerkat Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Lion Guard could be better, but it's no where near as bad Timon & Pumbaa.
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wolfMancub Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2017
I disagree. Timon and Pumbaa never meant to be a part of the movies' universe, it was made to be a separate comical entity. This mess of a series is trying to be literally a part of the movies' storyline and world. And the pilot movie's climax scene craps on Mufasa's death scene. To me, that's the most offensive thing they could have ever done to the first movie. And they did it. Or at least I can't imagine anything more distasteful and offensive to it, and truly hope they don't find a way to go even further. (I have edited a paragraph about that into the article.)
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SchrodingersMeerkat Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
I didn't like TLK 1 & 1/2 either. But I HATED the Saturday morning series T&P had in the mid 90's. If the episodes weren't just plain boring, they were slapstick based. EVERY cartoon in the 90's wanted to be Ren & Stimpy and Timon and Pumbaa was no exception. Timon was a textbook narcissist in most episodes.
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