Shop Forum More Submit  Join Login
I'm not some hipster who thinks art should be free. Or an art snob that making money is selling out to the man. Art galleries around the world sell paintings and statues every day. While I would like to make money from my art, but I don't like what happens when someone joins Patreon.

First, their deviantart account becomes a promo for Patreon. The gallery is now stuffed full with small, low resolution images covered in Patreon logos. I know you need to advertise, but do you have to take down your older images? It happens. I can't tell you the number of times I go for the older images (the ones that made us follow you in the first place) and only find "Not Found" messages.

Second, all new stuff goes towards Patreon customers. They are paying monthly and rightly deserve new content. That means you are making art for them not yourself. You focus on the images that generate the most views. To the surprise of no one, images of naked white women with ridiculously large breasts standing in a seductive pose generate the most views.

Lastly and most bizarrely, some artists shift into extreme forms after the move to Patreon. Lips are puffed out to her nose. Hips, butts, and breasts swell beyond her ability to stand. The poor woman's waist shrinks down to size of a tent pole. I find that grotesque not pretty. From me, that's saying something. I wonder if this a form of click bait.

I'm not saying this happens to all artists that jump to Patreon. With some degree, it occurs enough to take notice.

Also, I have no intention of going Patreon. This is a hobby, not a business.

Thanks for your time.
Add a Comment:
 
:iconbenitezdk:
benitezdk Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2017  Professional Digital Artist
... When you start pleasing! ... You may kill spontaneity! :( (Sad)

... Ending up losing your fans! ...  Stare ... :omfg: 

... So! ... Roll Eyes 

... Go for it or better leave it! ...  Oops! ... Time to haul ass out of here! 
Reply
:iconmaya-volkania:
Maya-Volkania Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2017
Lastly and most bizarrely, some artists shift into extreme forms after the move to Patreon. Lips are puffed out to her nose. Hips, butts, and breasts swell beyond her ability to stand. The poor woman's waist shrinks down to size of a tent pole. I find that grotesque not pretty. From me, that's saying something


lol I noticed that on a few 3d artists, I don't know if it's connected only to patreon or is a natural tendency to make curves bigger and bigger with time. I like very huge boobs, but when the hips and asses get as much big, the breasts don't seem that big anymore and looks more busty a girl with smaller breasts but with reasonable yet curvy hips and asses.
Reply
:iconryan111:
ryan111 Featured By Owner Edited Jun 27, 2017
I think the tip-jar style patreon works best. Post first on patreon, then on deviantart later. I think the worst things that happen to patreon artists is they quit posting deviantart works or they post their less-popular works for free and they fail to gain new fans who would become possible patrons, and those unaware of the Patreon just assumes they quit. Then the artist gets confused to why they start earning less and less money.

or another thing that doesn't work as well for you since you do 3D is the patreon only posts WIP stuff if they release it or not, then the finalized works are posted to Deviantart.
Reply
:icondocmani:
Docmani Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2017
For a Patreon, you might want to focus on those comic strips you so rarely make. That's at least the most interesting content you put out. :)
Reply
:iconjoeshmo205:
joeshmo205 Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2017
it's a hobby not a job.
Reply
:iconconnortf:
connortf Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2017
For most of us, sure. Don't begrudge those who try to make a living (or a piece of a living) from it.
Reply
:iconwilldial:
willdial Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2017
Artist should be rewarded for their work, especially good ones. I just wonder about the long term viability.
Reply
:iconconnortf:
connortf Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2017
Respectfully, when your original post is more about all the bad things that supposedly happen when an artist goes Patreon, when it's a commentary about more boobs than less, it's not merely "wondering" about viability. Let those who give it a shot figure it out. Some will make it, others won't. How that changes their work is up to them.
Reply
:iconlonestranger:
LoneStranger Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
Sounds like it's a good thing that you won't be on Patreon then.  I do think the site is geared more for the types that want to make art their business.  I support two people on there and in one case especially none of what you've seen has happened (except for the new art going to the supporters first).
Reply
:iconwilldial:
willdial Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2017
My comments were based on observations and that I am cynic. So, if a person does not radically change their gallery I may not notice their jump to patreon. And it doesn't feed into my negative outlook.

The new art going towards supporters first seems like a good approach. Best of luck to them.
Reply
:icontndvrs57:
tndvrs57 Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2017  Hobbyist Photographer
This is how I think,  Its a hobby.  There is more than art in this world......  be wise, enjoy your life and do what makes YOU HAPPY and not those that MAYBE likes your art.  
Reply
:iconwondersam:
Wondersam Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2017
the thing about patreon is that the site is being used as a quick buck just to charge you for something they could of posted on an art site while you can claim "exclusives" charging upwards of 500$+ for content made in daz is a bit silly
Reply
:icongromgorefiend:
Sadly i am like you willdial , there was an artiest here i followed i liked her stuff and she had her own site to show some of the stuff she felt she could not show here . then bam patron nothing showing up here once in a blue moon and her site same thing , the latest thing posted by her was a pic which is an add for her patron, which happen way to often these days.
Reply
:iconwondersam:
Wondersam Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2017
a lot of people are doing it for a quick buck even youtubers do it now
Reply
:iconshanna1600:
Shanna1600 Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2017
I think it comes down to the artist.

Sure, there are some of the snobby types who focus almost exclusively on Patreon, but in my experience the vast majority of the artists that I really like on here - who also have a Patreon page - are still really nice about sharing some of their art on here, and also will communicate with you and answer questions and things.

I have had a generally positive experience when it comes to D.A. artists who also possess a Patreon page.
Reply
:iconwilldial:
willdial Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2017
It warms my cynic's heart that at least someone had a positive experience.
Reply
Add a Comment:
 
×

:iconwilldial: More from willdial


More from DeviantArt



Details

Submitted on
June 19, 2017
Link
Thumb

Stats

Views
12,044
Favourites
2 (who?)
Comments
16
×