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Let's pretend you don't have much money to spend in supplies. You can only buy one item with good quality, the rest cheap materials. In what do you splurge in? 

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283 deviants said Paper
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193 deviants said Watercolour kit
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133 deviants said Brushes
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11 deviants said Other (explain!)

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adelaar1 Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Professional General Artist
Paper. I find myself in that situation often.
Also, some less expensive paints work as well as the more pricey ones. On the other hand, cheap paper is often not worth it.
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MinkuLul Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Professional Artisan Crafter
oh I did paint on every type of paper (even ordinary one) with light colors and just a drop of water, I believe it can be done as long as you frame it with a tape. I did use cheap (and very cheap) brushes too... but - for me - paint must be good! It doesn't have to be the most expensive one, but it heps! Oh, it heps so much to get good quality!
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Dariyen Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013   Digital Artist
none of them actually..i'd manage with whatever there is..but if i have to, i'd say good paper to tackle some wet paint
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ivoryleopard Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Brushes for me. I don't have the patience for low quality brushes anymore. I probably paid more for replacing cheap brushes than it would cost to buy great quality ones.

Paper would really depend on what I am working on. I use 90lb for simple stuff.

Then again, I'm more about creativity and technique than the materials. Seen someone do some fantastic work with just a crayola watercolor kit (one of my teachers in college wanted to drive this point home when a student whined about why they were slacking off in our art class.). You can have the best supplies in the world but if you don't know how to use them or what to make with them then it's an artistic loss.

Plus taking good care of your supplies. No matter what quality you use, it's going to be no use to you if you don't take care of it.
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Alecat Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist
Hm... mostly I use cheap to average stuff across the board, but I've been slowly upgrading my stuff. Until I get around to upgrading the brushes I'm not going to know for sure, but I'm thinking I'd probably splurge on paints since I recently upgraded them and am loving the new ones.
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reianne Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It's paper for me. I can't paint on ordinary paper, it will not survive the water! So my choice is to always buy the best watercolor pad I can afford, doesn't have to be the most expensive. Cheap brushes are fine. There are many kinds of brushes with all the different materials and stuff but I'm accustomed to using my own cheap set and I'm fine with them. I'm OK with cheap paint, too. As long as they're nontoxic, I'd use them. :D
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Dave70s Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Don't have to use a lot of imagination for this, haha. It probably would be paper for me as well.
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GoatQueen Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012
Actually you can get decent brushes for a good price. Second cheap paper isn't that bad you just need to find a reliable brand. Just..if you buy cheap paints it's all downhill.
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lovelylynne Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Student General Artist
I agree with you there.
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Alois-Noette Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012
Unless its like 90lb paper I don't think the paper is a huge issue, I try for 300lb Arches when I need to do gallery stuff but otherwise no, just can't pay that much, 140lb blocks end up working nicely.

I'm a lot more particular about the paint, which could be bad since I usually just paint in my sketchbook and use it up--but I can't stand the student grade colors, they just don't mix right and transparently for me. The argument 'but you're a student!' never quite worked there.
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zzen Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I choose other as an answer - good quality paper and good quality paints are the MUST. You never achieve anything good without these two. Brushes are also important, but you can find very good brushes, which are not expensive. Watercolours require THE BEST QUALITY MATERIALS - paints and paper, with no compromise.
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SailingBreezes Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Good watercolors. Paper is a close second, but I've pulled off results I've wanted on surprisingly affordable paper before. Going cheap on watercolors however has always been disastrous for me.
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redsama Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012
Paper is the most important thing to make a good painting. You can even use coffee or tea to paint with your fingers but you can't paint well on a bad paper :p
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Ithilloth Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012   General Artist
I tried some cheap school brushes and they're not bad, in some areas they're as good as normal price ones. For covering big areas you can go even with a sponge, so big expensive brush isn't something irreplaceable. I would probably cope with cheap thin paper too, just using less water works fine, though it doesn't allow to create complicated washes. After all, everyone started with cheap paper I guess. But if I was left with the best paper, best brushes and poor watercolor paints, I would be helplessly unable to do anything :lol: Still the paper is more important than brushes, but without good quality pigments it's just miserable. You can't achieve good contrast and the colors aren't much vivid. So I would say 10% for the brushes, 30% for the paper and 60% for the paints.
Oh, and paper towels. Paper towels above any shaggy tissue or toilet paper :lol:
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CatBatArt Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I paint with coffee, so paper is what I can splurge on. Also, I'm kind of anti-expensive brush. I work at an art supply store and just avoid them entirely... XD
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abasss Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012
If I worked in an art supply store I'd go broke in a week.
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CatBatArt Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Oh, you have no idea how difficult it is every day. And we JUST got some awesome new stuff in. And I can special order things from my boss if I want.

It's torture having to spend money on rent when I know I could be spending it on a new sketchbook...

;_;
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Roseprincess1 Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012
I think im going to have to go with paper.

I have tried the less expensive papers with DISASTEROUS results.
The masking fluid sticks to it.. it rolls up when you try to lift out... it buckles even IF you stretch the stupid stuff... there just no hope for it..
(thankfully the kind i do use Strathmoore wind power GSP 140 not isn't that expensive to begin with but is excellent quality >>> check it out if your interested [link])

paints i have found that it honstly depends more on how your going to use them what if they are artist or student quality... some brands i have are student some are artist but I've found that it depends more on what your doing and HOW you use them rather than what brand they are..
again for example these >>[link] and these>> [link] are my two fave brands but are considered student. (Shrugs) but both have excellent quality and great lightfastness.

brushes well i steadfastly REFUSE ... no i don't care what any one says about how the critters arent acutally killed to get the hair...I STILL REFUSE to use any brushes that have sable in them ... im not gonna have little animals hurt just so i can paint... So i tend to use synthetics... which are much cheeper any how and ive found acutally do better in some situations (Can you say lifting out?) than acutal sable because sable is too bloody soft!
As well as i tend to have no specific brand on thoses.. just what ever i like at the time.. tho artists loft is an excellent brand.

So yah.. i would have to stay that ultimate i would go with the expensive paper..
it makes the most differerance.
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Jie-n Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012
If I HAD to go cheap on the rest, I'd definitely go for the high-pigmented, thus expensive colours.
Good paper starts at a very low price (doesn't have to be Hahnemühle all the time), same for brushes.
But good, bright colours really make all the difference :)
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Kuroeno Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Paper. I always use cheap paper (because that's the only thing available around here)and i don't get the results i want. So if given the chance, i'll spend everything on paper *A*
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Riana-art Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012  Professional Artist
I´d always choose the paper, since it has the biggest influence on the look of the picture. The colors itself are the smallest problem. For about 15 Euros you can get s small selection of basic colors of a good quality, which allows you to mix the rest of the tones, and they last for a pretty long time.
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vilva73 Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012   Traditional Artist
for me, brush is the important thing in painting. Good brush = good work
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sweetlacie Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
well, all i have is watercolor pencils (faber) and some cheap non branded watercolors. The paper i use is quite expensive but without good materials, it could go wrong too :< or maybe i just lack technique! XD I think if technique can be bought, i will buy that one. :DDDD hahaha!
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SephyStabbity Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Brush, I'm pretty sure. I can use normal paper pretty well with my painting style, and can work with cheap colors, but bad brushes are the death of me.
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leaffiber Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
in watercolour i would probably spend on paper, but using pencils (which i do the most) i would probably spend most on the pencils themselves.
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Ama-Encyclopika Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Most of my stuff is cheap crap anyway because I am pretty poor and my life doesn't revolve around art (I'm earning a degree in science, actually). So I actually collect cardboard from various sources and have stacks of paper and supplies from the time when I wasn't poor.
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merrilee Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012
Paper. Hands down. Then paints and other supplies. Stuff for framing and matting, possibly. Watercolour isn't hard on brushes, so as long as you remold the tip and doesn't shed too badly you can use the same ones for years.
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wetdryvac Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012
Everything I use is scavenged or composed of 99cent children's paint or similar. I do have some high quality paints, but that's from a grandmother who died years ago and left them to me - so every now and then, when I'm feeling up to the task, I'll reconstitute some of 'em. Other than that, I dropped $15 on brushes and still use a favorite brush that's broken in half and mostly missing its hair (thin lines make me happy) and some $5 for 70 sheets non-watercolor paper.

Watercolor paper I haven't used since the 1990s, as it's expensive, and my money tends to go to data storage.

Generally, when I've got a recycling station handy - small town recycling stations rock - I'll get all my materials there. The majority of my current paper, however, is from a printing plant that went out of business and gave away dozens of rolls of acid-free.
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xXjannatXx Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i think it would be 1-paper 2-brushes 3-watercolors. u cant even paint with watercolors on cheap paper, brushes come second since the better the brush the better u can paint, its not impossible to paint with a cheap brush though, i use medium quality brushes. then paints come last since the worst that could happen is they'd be pale or not have many hues. i actually use very cheap paints lol
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slategreen Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
The paper. It matters more for watercolors than for any other medium, because it affects how the paint is taken. I can get inexpensive student grade paint and student grade brushes that will get the job done... even quite well, but can't skimp on the nice arches or fabriano brand watercolor paper.
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FlowerFreak Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Hard decision, that. I guess paper...I don't want to stretch paper and I've read that Arches 140 lb. is great.
I have "Wal*Mart" cheap-o watercolors that work pretty well (Daler & Rowney) but the brushes are more of a concern to me. My brushes shouldn't bend and shed! :omg:

To be honest, if I had a windfall I'd go nuts online in a heartbeat (half-off art supply stores). Their catalogs are my "Sears Wish Book" :love: But as Mom says "How does it feel to want?" :(
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GreenSprite Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012
One good brush AND paper. I can't deal without either. The paper doesn't have to be the absolute best, just not average printer paper.
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Binnus Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012
I would go for the kit as it usually includes some brushes. If you're lucky you can buy a good watercolor kit, brush(es) included with good quality paper.
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Sigune Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
ALL of them are important, because bad materials will have an effect on how your art looks - that's just the way it is. When I try a new medium I tend to skimp on my materials because I don't want to spend too much on a medium I may quit, but I have come to think that this is probably not a good idea.

However - in the case of watercolours, I think a good paper is probably the most important thing. Student grade paints of a good brand (like Winsor & Newton's Cotman) are very decent, but if you use them on bad paper, chances are that your art isn't going to look good whatever you do. That said, I do have some Daler-Rowney papers that I bought at about €5 or €6 a block and that are really very good - it doesn't have to be Arches (though Arches is my absolute favourite :D).

Brushes are a close second - I would rather not part with my nr 8 petit-gris and my nrs 7 and 4 marten brushes, but at the same time, there are really good synthetic brushes (Da Vinci! love those) that cost much less and with which better artists than myself get better results than I ever will :P.
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JamieKinosian Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Paper was the gamechanger for me when it came to jumping into watercoloring. I had a $12 set of paints and a $12 set of like five brushes, but having the watercolor paper is what made me realize what I was doing wrong all along.

I'd like to have some nice brushes one of these days though. :9 still just using that cheap set while I've replaced my cheap paints and gotten nicer watercolor paper. Whoops.
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Magianna Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Everything I have is quite cheap xD However, I think paper is the most important thing, I've had some troubles with bad quality paper :<
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k8lag Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Cheap paper is amazingly difficult and sometimes impossible to use (some of it turns to a pulpy mess). I never skimp on the paper.
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leotheyardiechick Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I'm splurging on the paper. Even the top-of-the-line watercolour kits will falter on craptastic paper, but you can still make something beautiful with student-grade paints and brushes if the paper is top-notch.
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bpisek Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I have enough paper, and water color paint from Blick is pretty good.

I'd rather have a very good quality brush that holds a very good point, or the desired tip that I need.
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Cmac13 Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012   General Artist
fortunately i'm able to use quality paint, paper and brushes - but i think if i had to choose it would be brushes - but then i've never really created on cheap paper so what the heck do i know anyway :giggle:
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xNatje Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Professional General Artist
brushes. and actually the watercolor too. I'd rather go to the cheaper paper.
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Takuichi Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Like abasss :D
I'm using cheap brushes (daVinci Junior which costs ~60-80% less then the regular ones), more or less cheap colors (daler&rowney and winsor&newton, when i'm looking for other colors in our local shop they're always reduced) but my favourite brand of paper is f**** expensive TT__TT
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KFHDay Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
It's near impossible to work with watercolours on cheap paper. The warping gets ridiculous and it either absorbs paint too quickly or too slowly making most techniques very difficult.
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abasss Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012
Paper. I paint with cheap watercolours, use cheap brushes, but I can never paint in a cheap paper.
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