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Drethathon Cover (2017 edition) by Vivyi Drethathon Cover (2017 edition) by Vivyi
( Pssst Arasteia I am uploading this instead. Please update your journal if you can. If not, I understand XD )

The semi-finalized cover of Drethathon, the new title in the Netheron Series! I am in need of some suggestions, so please give me your feedback :heart:

1) Should the "Vivienne Waltzer" font be smaller?
2) Do the fonts look good together / go together well? If not, what fonts (only royalty free) would you suggest?
3) Does this remind you of an YA gothic victorian fantasy steampunk novel?

In any case, I am SO sorry  for taking so long to post this - I was actually going to wait until I came closer to production to post this  - but my cut off for the edits (round 1) is only in a month, and the entire edits (round 1, 2, 3, or additional) Is due by January - March 2018. So I'm REALLY scrambling to get this done, which is one reason I've been so inactive. XD

Hope you like :heart: Will add more later!!
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:iconkrisallys:
Krisallys Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2017  Professional General Artist
great!
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:iconvivyi:
Vivyi Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you so much :heart:
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lydia-san Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
ITS UP?
IT IS!
YAAAAAAAASSS
i wanna give some feedback but it seems that other peeps know better and gave you advice already xD
so might not be very helpful, but...
1) Yes, should be smaller
2) Honestly, i love the font you use for Drethaton so much, i wish you wouldnt change it, but well, they doesnt look good together. Also, the font for Drethaton seems to narrow and too close to each other,, perhaps add spaces and make it more flat? lol sorry idk how to say it xD but yeah.
I think, the font is beautiful and give that unique original feels. 
3) Definitely yes.
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:iconvivyi:
Vivyi Featured By Owner Sep 12, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
IT IS!!!!

:love:

Hey I appreciate any advice that I get! So I really appreciate the time you took to write this out <3

1) Agreed
2) I understand what you mean, and I wish I didn't have to change it either, but I think I will... and the new font that I  find will be even better ;D 
Thank you <3 Hope the new font will express the same thing :)
3) <3

Hey sorry for the late reply! Just got back from a camping trip <3
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EveVon Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2017
Ohh it looks nice, though I think I have a few tips:
1) I think it would be nice if you made the fonts smaller. You actually want some space to make the cover 'breathe' a bit :) You also need to consider your margins. Is it going to be an online or a print? If it is going to be print you need to consider that especially for covers, usually the margin is going to be folded across the book cover, so it would be safe if you kept an inch of space at the edge free from text.
2) The best way to do your lettering would be to minimize the different types of fonts as much as you can. Also, make sure the font is readable. Depending on whether you are going for online or offline use, you'd want to use sans serif or serif fonts respectively. Sans serif fonts are very easy to read online or when they're really large on print. Deviantart uses a sans serif font as well, you can find out if you look at the end of a letter whether it has a tiny hook on it or not, that's the serif. For example, your white text is a serif font. Also, try to avoid cursive/handwriting fonts as much as possible. They are not really legible. The one you used for your name is okay, but the Title font is rather illegible. It's also nicest if you took one fancy font and let the other fonts be more calm. I'd suggest make the title font fancy yet legible, and use the same font for your author name and flavour text. Also, I personally like my fonts to have a bit more air between them, so I adjust the letter and line spacing a bit (which makes the lines and letters be more distant from one another and makes it nicer on the eyes to read; less cluttered) Also, using just one, soft colour for the text would be my last advice :)
3) The picture surely does look spot on! I think with the edits to the text it will look very epic and true to your story! 

I did some quick edits, blurred out your picture just to quickly give you an idea what it will look like with the text and how I would do it:
Coverexample by EveVon

The fonts I used are palatino linotype (a basic serif font) and old english text MT for the title to keep that victorianesque feeling to it. For your text and author name I added in some text spacing and for your flavour text I also spaced the lines out a bit. Take note at the margins, I kept some space open there as well :)

My last tip would be to take a look at other book covers of published books and see how they are made :D Anyway I hope I wasn't too late with this and wish you good luck with the production :D
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:iconvivyi:
Vivyi Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow... thank you very, very much for your advice! It's very helpful, and I appreciate it greatly :heart:

I agree that the font needs to be smaller - although I would probably end up structuring it slightly different. since this is YA. I also need to re-position the character themselves and add a backside. 

I am thinking of both online and print - my self-publisher (after more research) will most likely be Lulu or Kobo. This is just a demo of how the final version might look, since I needed advice. I am using a 6 x 9 format in the final. :D

I will look into more Serif fonts then! I'm trying to find something that is readable, captures the Victorian feel, and is considerably useful for a fantasy / steampunk / gothic YA book :)
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SerenityRiver135 Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Holy cow! This looks like an official cover of a book!
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:iconvivyi:
Vivyi Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you so much <33 :D That means a lot to me :love:
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SerenityRiver135 Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No prob~!
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missmagicgirl Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2017
This looks beautiful! I love her hair over her face and the colors. It definitely looks like a YA gothic victorian fantasy steampunk novel :D Heart 

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:iconvivyi:
Vivyi Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you so much :heart: Glad to see I've manage to capture the genre!! :heart: Also - it's very good to hear from you again! :tighthug:
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:iconmissmagicgirl:
missmagicgirl Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2017
You really captured it perfectly! :) 

I missed you to! Heart 5 seconds hug How are things going? :) 
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:iconvivyi:
Vivyi Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Awww thanks! :heart: :tighthug:

Things are getting better <3 I was struggling a bit with some self-confidence issues before, but I woke up in high spirits :heart: Now I am ready to face the day :D
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missmagicgirl Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2017
I am sorry to hear that but glad you are feeling better. You are a wonderful and talented person and you deserve to always feel amazing. Heart Heart 
I know how it can be tho... I have been dealing with lots af anxiety lately and I know how easy it sometimes is to give in to darker moods and sad thoughts... 
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:iconvivyi:
Vivyi Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you so much ;u; I really appreciate hearing this, especially in the random unpredictableness that is my life right now XD

I've been struggling majorly with a lot of things, so you're not alone :huggle: Sometimes I feel like I push away people more than I should, but I feel like I do it to protect others from my extremely exhausting life XD But I hope I can find a resolution to why I have been so out of control emotionally and in general as of late ;n;
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missmagicgirl Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2017
I hope you will feel better and that everything will fall into place. Heart 
I know how hard and confusing it can be. I am struggling with a lot too and I am going back to therapy this fall
which is not something I look forward to but I think it is necessary.... 
Feel free to talk to me anytime you need it about anything. Heart 
And remember that you are very talented both as an writer and as an artist and you have so much to be proud of Heart 
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Vivyi Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you so much :tighthug: I'm glad I have somebody I can talk to. 

I'm sorry to hear that you have to go back into therapy :( I frequently see a therapist and a case manager for my mental care needs. I have a lot going on through my head that sometimes needs sorting - I do have a lot of issues too, and when I'm healthy I am extremely productive and happy. I've been horribly out of balance lately though and I feel like I just need to get myself sorted out >< My therapist understands what I go through, but I feel like I am extremely alone, because I have nobody to speak to about my experiences, and nobody's experienced anything like I have. 
I'm trying to put it behind me now - but next time I feel overwhelmed, I'll definitely send you a PM :huggle:

Thank you... that means the world to me :tighthug:
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Arasteia Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Okay here I am again!
I do agree with the others that the title font is a little difficult to read but I like the author font and size :) And I can't really say whether it reminds me of that, cause I'm honestly not sure I've ever read a story like that, it's a lot of labels XD
I definitely get gothic and maybe Victorian, but probably not steampunk or fantasy. Maybe you could add in some cogs or something to get those aspects?
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:iconvivyi:
Vivyi Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Ahh I gotcha - I think truthfully, Gothic and Victorian would probably be the top 2 things I'd want to capture. Fantasy - yes it's in there. Maybe I need a slightly larger amount of "witch light", to sorta reflect the witches in the story? This book revolves around two different types of magical inheritance: Mindbenders (Anti-witches who suck the power from witches, and kill them, using their minds) and Witches. (Who vary in their magical inheritance, entirely based on their genetics. Aka, the main character: who's powers are never going to be fully developed, and are fully acted upon emotions. )

To capture the steampunk - would you say I could capture that, if I created a side border with metal nuts, to sorta empathsize that this character is an inventor? (As the person on the cover, is Marcilyn?)
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Arasteia Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh yeah witch light could be cool!
And yes I think that border is an awesome idea!
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FierceBabydoll Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That cover looks really lovely! :heart: I like the color palette and the characters face! :rose:
Regarding your questions:

1) I think the font size is alright. :thumbsup:

2) The font of your name looks good. However I would take a different font for the title on the bottom. Its kinda 
hard to read in my opinion, so a less harsh font similar to the authors font would fit well.

3) Yes, it does. The color palette, moon and font have a fantasy/steampunk feel to it. And since there is the face of 
a young woman, it makes the impression of a YA novel as well. :D
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:iconvivyi:
Vivyi Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you very much! I am really glad you like it :heart:

1) That's good! I still want to get a second opinion, but I really appreciate your opinion! :D
2) Agreed. Hearing this from more than one person - I am definitely going to change this one way or another. XD And I see it for myself  as well. :D
3) That's good, I'm very glad :heart: At least I'm on the right track then, aye? ;D

For some reason my message didn't go through last time. Did you still receive it, or did I just not send it?
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FierceBabydoll Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes, I've received the message. :)

Overall I also think you are on the right track. :thumbsup: I wish you best luck for
setting up the cover and publishing your novel! :rose:
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:iconvivyi:
Vivyi Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you so much :heart: It's very much appreciated!!
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The-Almighty-Muffin Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
This looks absolutely amazing!
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:iconvivyi:
Vivyi Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you!! ;u; I really appreciate it <33 :tighthug:
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The-Almighty-Muffin Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
:huggle: No problem! I'm just stating the truth!
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:iconvivyi:
Vivyi Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Awwwww :love: :tighthug: :heart: :heart: :heart:
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The-Almighty-Muffin Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
:huggle:
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:iconvivyi:
Vivyi Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
:glomp:
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The-Almighty-Muffin Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
5 seconds hug 
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Catmandolin Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2017  Professional Traditional Artist
First  VIV, HELLOOOOO from my alley!  Two: love the cover!  HOWEVER--Gothic script does not bring out the kitten in me.  It's strictly a visual thing.  

You have a relatively complex title (word)--the brain has to see the script and interpret it--gothic does not help.

Visually it does convey a sense of horror which is a good thing if that is what you are going for.

I have no suggestions for an alternative script and your fan base is going to have me euthanized but while visually I love it, I could never tell you the name of the book.  I had Jen (my daughter) look at it and she agreed and we NEVER agree---my daughter is the original Mary, Mary quite contrary. 

Something to think about.  But ask your gang of cool kids again for their opinion then do what your heart tells you too.  Again, this cover kicks.  I love it.  Best from the alley--cat
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Vivyi Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Ahhh thank you so much for the  feedback (and your honesty)! I will definitely consider changing the font style, then. Horror - is not essentially what I am going for - but it needs to have a bit of a victorian theme to it, with some gothicness somewhere in there. I've been told to focus on fonts that aren't quite as hard to read, and I will try to do that.  I tend to have a pretty good eye, and ability to read even the most  difficult fonts, but I understand if it's tough for someone else!

On a side note: Glad I made it very visually pleasing :la:
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Obelis Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
That wind effect brings sadness to the cover. :o
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:iconvivyi:
Vivyi Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Something I was going for ;D This story just refuses to be all happy and rosy! XD
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AsMyWorldDivides Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2017
Whoaaaa cool!! I have no critiques and I love it! 
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:iconvivyi:
Vivyi Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you <33 Ahhh it's fine :heart: I understand XD
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AsMyWorldDivides Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2017
<3   
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:iconvivyi:
Vivyi Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
:glomp:
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Naysae Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
YOOOO this looks so cool omf--
i honestly think it's perfect the way it is??? the colors seem to blend super well together
and
this would honestly make a rad cover it's aesthetically pleasing to look at aAAA
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:iconvivyi:
Vivyi Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Aaaa thank you so much ;u; Happy you like it :heart:

Ahahaha well there's always something to improve on imo XD But I'm really glad you think it's asthetically pleasing! c: Means a lot :heart:
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Arasteia Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Aaa I would update it but doing that would delete most of the thumbs (it's a problem I've had with sta.sh writer for months now >.<) 
But gosh it looks so good! I'd love to give more in-depth feedback but I have 2 things due today that I'm nowhere near finished so I don't have time right now, hopefully later! ^^ 
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:iconvivyi:
Vivyi Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks! Sorry you're still having that problem. Have you submitted a helpdesk ticket over it? :/ I once did for a friend when she couldn't access my page / comment on my works at all, and it seemed to become fixed before she woke up, though nobody responded. 

That's fine <3 Just let me know when a good time is :) It would mean a lot to me!! :heart:
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Arasteia Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No problem! 
Nah I haven't, I've heard they're pretty bad with that kind of thing XD Maybe one day!
And sure, will do <3
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Vivyi Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
It's kinda funny... I ran into an article a while back saying they were apologizing for not being proactive enough to comment on their helpdesk entries XD I think they are super short staffed I guess :shrug:

Yay <333 :glomp:
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Arasteia Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Haha yeah they are super short-staffed XD 
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Vivyi Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Indeed XD
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