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The0nePotato's avatar
The0nePotato|Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Except for the horrendous access fees a good system though :) 
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SalHunter's avatar
Funny ... because it's true! Add in the peer review cartels and there's every opportunity for bad science. Do you keep an eye on Retraction Watch? The role of post publication peer review is becoming interesting via places like www.Pubpeer.com.  I have a plan this year to start a project that curates the literature base for the amyloid beta protein in Alzheimer disease (immuno-based measuring techniques are often misinterpreted due to antibody cross reactivities) ... it could take a while ...
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Velica's avatar
Hi, yes I do keep up with Retraction Watch (a bit superficially but I do). I agree that post publication peer review should be the most important part of the process but the way we're graded and quantified as academics relies greatly on pre-pub peer review.

Good luck with your projects!
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zebarnabe|Hobbyist Digital Artist
As someone who as published one single paper (in other publisher), yep, it sounded quite fishy back then, and sure sounds really bad when put it terms of the comic.

That's one of the reasons I did not pursue academic research. You basically have to pay to work...
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Laugh-Butts|Professional Digital Artist
Just to make sure, just NPG's stand for "nature publishing group"? I want to make sure before I think I understand the comic!

If so, I've never gone as far as to submit to nature, but do they make you pay to access your own work?
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Velica's avatar
They do. This is NPG but could also be Elsevier or any of the other major publishing houses.

If you are lucky to be in a rich university of a rich country they will have shelled out thousands of dollars per year to pay for subscription fees so that the researchers can access what they themselves produced.

It's a seriously deranged business.
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Laugh-Butts|Professional Digital Artist
Now, that's just whack. I feel bad you guys have to go through that. Surely, there's nicer publishing groups?!
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Velica's avatar
There are but the system is rigged in the sense that our careers are judged by how often we publish with the nasty publishers (they have the high impact).
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ERA-7|Professional Digital Artist
This is extremely good :heart:
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