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the "hu-fi-ud" flag proposal, which was originally intended merely as a merge of flags of these three nations [Hungarian, Finnish and Udmurt], gained some popularity as a "Finno-Ugric flag". however, its design was reasonably found too complicated and not representative enough for Finno-Ugric (Uralic) nations and languages. that's why i made a new attempt to design such a universal flag.

the main motive of all of them is the 8-pointed star / sun / moon symbol found on flags of Udmurtia, Mordovia and on the coat of arms of Karelia.

it has 8 points / rays as there are 8 cardinal directions in Finnish and Estonian language.

proposal #1 is the most comprehensive, but also the most complicated one. it's made of a "Nordic" off-centred cross connected with an "X-like" cross, i.e. a saltire, which is also off-centred here.
the intersection of these two crosses creates another shape, the 8-pointed "Udmurt" star.
colours are taken from flags of Uralic nations, for example: red and green is taken from the Hungarian flag, blue from the Finnish flag and the Yamalo-Nenets flag, black from the Estonian flag and the Udmurt flag, yellow from the Ingrian flag, blue and green from the Khanty-Mansi flag, blue and red from flags of Mari-El and Mordovia etc.
however, no colour stands for a particular nation, it's rather their multitude which is important and relevant here, because it shows the diversity of Uralic nations.
the "Nordic" off-centred cross is characteristic for many [Baltic-]Finnic flags.
the main symbol [modified or not] is found on some Permic and Volgaic flags.
the main symbol is off-centred like a symbol on the Saami flag, and according to some interpretations it may also refer to the Sun, just like the circle on the Saami flag.
the fact that there are two crosses, may also refer to the double cross from the coat of arms of Hungary.

as far as colours are concerned, see also my "Schraffurfahne".

proposals #2 and #3 are just simplified versions of proposal #1.

#2 displays the 8-pointed symbol in its proper colour as it appears on flags of Udmurtia and Mordovia and also the "Nordic" cross as it appears on the flag of Finland.

proposal #4 is made of eight squares in different colours, confining the 8-pointed symbol made of the empty space between them.

you can discuss the proposals here or on Uralistica.ning.com.
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MK11gz's avatar
I see why so many colours on #1, but prefer #2 or #3 which are simplified. Probably number #2 with two black and two green stripes on the saltire cross would be my choice.
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Seconds the best.
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kiitos! :) ja mitä mieltä olet minun alkuperäisestä ehdotuksesta? uflag.org/
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Alkuperäinen oli hieno kaikkine symboliikkansa ansiosta, mutta se oli mielestäni aivan liian yksityiskohtainen. Sinun lippusi ovat sopivan simppeleitä :D
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varphoHobbyist Digital Artist
minustakin... mutta kaikki viisi lippua [se 4 ja myös uflag.org] ovat minun suunnitelmat. :)
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Oikeasti!? Hieno homma :D
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CoralArtsHobbyist Digital Artist
#2 looks best to my eye. But other ones are cool too!
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CoralArtsHobbyist Digital Artist
Those are very nice too, I see! :)
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varphoHobbyist Digital Artist
here is the correct link, sorry: uflag.org/ :)
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CoralArtsHobbyist Digital Artist
Looks even better! :D
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I like #4 the best. The star appears to be a Uralic symbol; I seem to see it a lot. Not just on flags, but I have a Finnish hat with ear flaps that has these on it. Number 4 is the best, but fill the star in yellow. This way, you can have all the colours, and don't do the Nordic cross thing. It's only seen on national flags, not traditionally. And move the star to the middle. Then, it would look perfect!
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varphoHobbyist Digital Artist
i've moved it off-center intentionally, for it to resemble somehow flags of Finland and Saami, among others.

and what do you think about this? :)
Shikku27316's avatar
I like that flag, but it is complex. I changed my opinion-the off center look is better to me now.
871lk0's avatar
these reminds me more of African flags :(
i like the 'nordic' one much more especially because of the 'knot work' and the sun symbol in the middle of it
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varphoHobbyist Digital Artist
anyway, i think the "nordic one" is already widely accepted as the "Uralic" flag.
arongrackle's avatar
Nordic cross-based flag for FU? Nordic cross originates from germanic (Danish in fact) people.
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varphoHobbyist Digital Artist
yeah, but it is also used by many Finnic peoples [Finns, Karelians, Ingrians etc.]
and it is not the only element of the proposed flag.
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Fourth is the best one :)
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thanks! :)
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You're welcome! ;)
Sacter's avatar
I like #3 the best!
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varphoHobbyist Digital Artist
thanks! :)
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