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Lightning-Final Fantasy XIII by Valesco Lightning-Final Fantasy XIII by Valesco
this is the redone version...i didn't dare to change the mouth. nevertheless i hope the pic improved in a certain way..




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hi there,
my latest portrait...
i spotted many mistakes here, but at the mom i do not have the courage or the heart to redo them...(but i will definitely, some day...)
i'd better redo the right eye, which is too far at the top, which causes that the face is too long..the sweetness of lightning gets lost here a bit...these are the mistakes i am aware of, and if you spot some more, please tell me!
i'd be really glad if you commented on her hair, i am simply not quite into drawing hair realistically!

thank you
and enjoy so far possible!
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Secular Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2011
You're very talented, have you tried to draw with ink?
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Valesco Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2011  Hobbyist
hey, thanks so much! No, the most "sophisticated" way of drawing I tried was coal and I totally failed (though this was now about eight years ago...).The problem with ink is that you can't erase any mistakes and I am still far from drawing without making little corrections...^^
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Secular Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2011
It is what I like with ink, as you can't correct anything, or hardly, you progress very fast, because when you do a mistake, it's over. So it's a very good way to learn quickly, exactly as you would learn a guitar song. And when you do succeed, it's such a pleasure!
And most of all, it gives you new opportunities, more effects and a far better precision when your pen is good. Though, it takes a bit more time... but you do pay attention to all details, if you don't want your drawing to be ugly, so it's an incredible exercise. You should try!
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Valesco Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2011  Hobbyist
you seem to have some experiences with that, though I can't see you using it yourself in your gallery:P...ehm, what do I need for inking? A pot of ink and some kind of special pen...? Sorry I don't know, I do not even possess paper and pencils of good quality, as I always apologize for that^^
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Secular Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2011
I only use ink, with a Cross pen, so it's between a common pen and a quality pen. The few drawings I submitted to my gallery are made with it: [link] [link] [link]
In reality, they are smaller, but the scanner increased their sizes. I could show you a lot more; I sometimes use this kind of pen: [link] for other effects. Anyway, with a classic pen, you can do so many things! The best example is the purses in Gofannon drawing, it's the detail I'm proud of :D because the texture is rendered much better than with charcoal or any drawing pencil (in my opinion ^^ )
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Valesco Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2011  Hobbyist
hm I just thought of something totally different once you said "ink". Your drawings look rather like made with an "ordinary" pencil. Yeah I am just not corageous enough to use such pens, once I am satisfied with my pic's outcome^^.
Please do not feel offended, but I just gotta admire how eloquent you're in english, since all the guys I know from france speak from scarcely to horribly...
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Secular Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2011
Oh, maybe you thought it would be with China ink or something... No no, it's just about using a simple pen :)
I asked you if you would like to try, because I found some of your drawing quite detailed, so I immediately thought to the precision you could get using ink instead of drawing pencils :D One day you will!

Ah ah, it makes me laughing, we do have a horrible level in all foreign languages we learn in France, our languages teachers suck for most of them. I'm ok at Engligh writing, but I suck at speaking it :-(
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Valesco Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2011  Hobbyist
I got to know a guy in Wacken 2006 from france, who I could rather speak spanish to, instead of english^^ so you should feel sophisticated in a way :D
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Saidryian Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2010
Beautiful drawing, I love the shading and detail put into the eyes. The hair is fantastic too, especially where it covers her eyes :love:
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Valesco Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2010  Hobbyist
thanks very much! =)
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Uranus-seventhsun Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2010
The eyes look good. The head length is fine.

Read through most of the comments, but I dunno if anyone mentioned this; the stubble shading on the chin and upper neck implies male, the features female or feminine male. She has a severe look, he has a severe yet effete look. Leave the lips as they are; they imply female. These manga characters look the same IMO, what with the hairstyles and all; what makes her stand out as a character?

It's a good portrait, no glaring mistakes.
Hope this helps.
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Valesco Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2010  Hobbyist
yeah, thanks for giving advices. i'm glad you people mention the mistakes i do several times, so i know they're really there:D
this is a woman, from the latest final fantasy game, so i ought to make her look more female. hm, i gotta say i dunno so much about her, in fact she's a character from the game which i never played...i just had a few looks at it and was stunned by it's amazing graphic quality. so i don't know what makes her stand out..i had a screenshot for reference and of yourse tried to copy her as best as i could free-handed...so i guess i mainly put in all that makes her stand out!
thanks very much for commenting!
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lmmdi Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The hair is lovely, it flows really well -I like that you seem to have caught the character in motion.

I think a little more shading would add some depth to the hair but it is good as it is (I see a lot of people have already mentioned shading). The eyes are so intense, well done on that.

I think you should put some shading on the lips, just to bring some balance to the face and match the eyes (just my thoughts though - the pic is great as it is).
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Valesco Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2010  Hobbyist
thanks for commenting in such detail! don't you think the lips are even a bit too "protruding"? i rather thought to make them even more mingle unobtrusively into the face?
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lmmdi Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I don't know, I'm not as expert as some here. I thought maybe a little bit more shading might make them less obvious by blending them into the face (if you see what I mean) but I think the person who posted advising you on changing the perspectives slightly is right.
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Valesco Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2010  Hobbyist
ok, got it now, she outlines are too heavy for the mom. thanks for your efforts!
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Cirque-de-mystere Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2010
Okay so first of all, I really like the structure of the face and the nose. :D The only suggestions I have for you is to work a little bit more on the hair...I understand that it's really difficult and time-consuming (I have definitely not mastered drawing hair myself), but the result is always extremely rewarding! Maybe try showing the shapes and shadows rather than drawing each individual strand of hair, if that makes sense. The only other advice I can think of is to consider adding in some darkest darks in order to show depth and to make it look more 3D than it already is. Although I really like your soft shading style, I feel like you can take some risks and go a little darker. :)

Overall, this is a really nice piece and I can tell that you worked hard on it. :aww:
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Valesco Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2010  Hobbyist
hi, thanks very much for the appreciation! it's nice to hear the advice to add darker parts into her hair. i think i'll collect a few advices which are to say the same, so that i will definitely dare to do so the net time!
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karolvig Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2010
i think is very good that you are critical of your work and able to look for mistakes and things not so good so to get better! this is great! And my sincere opinion is: i like the overall drawing, the look on her eyes, her mouth, the hair is very well done but i think you should make the shadows more dark, put more pressure on your hand, so it can contrast more with the lightings, and this is for all the drawing.. Im not so good at draw but this tips are what i see from awesome artists here in da, there are a lot and they give very good tips. This: [link] is one of my favourite artists here and he gives many tips to improve the drawings, look at his journals, he does most of them tradicional works...

So you can certainly improve i think are only details that are missings... :)
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Valesco Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2010  Hobbyist
hi! thanks for your comment and your tip on aramismarron. he's really gorgeous since he is able to smoothe the whole thing up! ok, in this drawing i dared to make the shades darker than before, but i think you're right and i should head for even more contrast. thanks for distributing!
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Xiaomei23 Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Well, you're above my level, so it'll be hard for me to critique. But about the hair, I think you have the shape right, but maybe try making it shinier? The way you drew it, it's kinda flat. If you look at what shiny hair looks like, the shines kinda follow a "circle" pattern around a focal point... like the area where most of the hair is coming from... does that make sense at all? ^^;
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Valesco Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2010  Hobbyist
hmm, i guess she's got a side fringe very far on the right hand side :D. your argument is one i was wondering about all the time. i used to add really many shiny parts in my pics (just look at my photoshop pics) and then while drawing lightning, i wondered if these shiny parts are natural at all?
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Penguinton Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2010  Student Traditional Artist
Its a very nice drawing. ^^ Pretty much everyone already said what I'd suggest to fix it up. So I don't really have anything new or interesting to add...Um heres a link to some free how to draw art books: [link]

They're really good. I have the actually brought hard copy books before I realized I could get them for free. XD
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Valesco Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2010  Hobbyist
hi, thanks very much for that hint. i'll check it out later in detail!
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distrubed-seedling Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2010
round out the chin.
the boxed chin makes her look a bit manly.
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Valesco Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2010  Hobbyist
ok, i'll consider this! thanks for sharing!
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distrubed-seedling Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2010
no problem c:
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KwongBee-Arts Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
well i've read hat people have already said this but some deeper shadows and darker tones would really make this pop
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Valesco Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2010  Hobbyist
yay, thanks for sharing. next time i'll darken the whole thing much more!
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Valesco Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2010  Hobbyist
yay, thanks for sharing, i'll darken the whole thing next time!
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B-Hart Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Maybe people have already advised you this, but you could try being bolder with the shadows and contrast ;)
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Valesco Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2010  Hobbyist
yep, exactly. many many people told me, so i guess it's really necessary to advance in this point! thanks for looking at my pic!
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BadgersBakery Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2010
I love the shading but it's a little lost without proper contrast, especially when it comes to hair - it could definately use some more highlights. Even simply toying with levels in photoshop can do miracles :)

For hair I recommend my friend's tut -> [link]
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Valesco Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2010  Hobbyist
yay, thanks much for the appreciation and the link. do you redo pics in photoshop after scanning? i never got a result which satisfied me, so i just gave up (my scanner scans in a real odd way, leaving a heavy grain which i can't erase...)
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BadgersBakery Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2010
This could be a problem, but manually tweaking levels could help anyway :)

I always redo my pics in photoshop.
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Valesco Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2010  Hobbyist
ok, then i'll try to do so aswell, just gotta work a bit more on those endless photoshop functions! :D
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laydieloki Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2010
Good job on this, I love the way you drew the eyes! I think the shading could use some darker tones but other then that I really like it ^^
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Valesco Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2010  Hobbyist
yeah, the shading is quite dark, in fact. but my scanner is awfully old and scans in a really bad quality...like using a flashlight in photography when not needed..:'(
thank you!
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simone4390 Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2010  Student General Artist
It did not strike me at all that the head is too long or the right eye is to far from the top. Is that because I don't know this woman? Did you draw her from life? from reference?
My critique is about stronger lights and shadows. Actually I wonder where the light source is. Her straight hair is in one tone. Do you understand my point?
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Valesco Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2010  Hobbyist
yes, i understand definitely! thing is, my scanner makes the pic unique and lightened up in it's shadows..i used quite a lot more different tones than visible in here, what a pity!
yeah, i suppose you do not feel wrong about the face since you do not know the reference! the reference is a playstation 3 game called "final fantasy 3" and so i wanted to draw her the way she really looks like in the game, but this turned out to be so difficult. i agree, without having a reference she looks quite complete in composition, but not when you want her to look like the original :D
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simone4390 Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2010  Student General Artist
I understand
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7THeaven Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2010  Student Digital Artist
well I'll add some hair tips, try to practice shadows. it helps create depth. you mentioned about your scanner, try darkening the outline of the hair and leave light areas to add that shadow effect, but not too much cause I know Lightning's hair is blond right.
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Valesco Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2010  Hobbyist
actually her hair is even very light pink! see, this is exactly my prob. i do not know at all how to start drawing hair's structure without darkening it too much. how do you start off?
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7THeaven Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2010  Student Digital Artist
to start off, just work on it by sections like front to back and avoid blending them so that you can make the front part stand out easier. next decide where the light source is and shade the dark area and slowly it gets lighter as it nears the light source. and that's it, the amount is up to you and your scanner =)
hope it helps
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Valesco Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2010  Hobbyist
hey thanks! but actually this is the rule i follow every time (this time the scanner even destroyed my light source :D)...i rather meant if you had some advices about putting the streaks..you see? how to draw hair at all! is there any special form of drawing it fine or is it enough to create a less detailed structure etc.
thanks !
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7THeaven Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2010  Student Digital Artist
oh I see, your technique on placing streaks is already good. you just need to define them a bit more and add heavier streaks around the back to give dimension. detailing it too much is time consuming, but worth the effort. the less detailed ones are quick, easy, and simple like sketching. I think you're doing great with hair, just needs those finishing touches
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Valesco Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2010  Hobbyist
ok, then i'll consider them the next time i'll go for drawing hair. thanks !
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fromthedead Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
Well, since you wanted a fair critique - Assuming her face is at eye level with the viewer, her eyes should both be lower. Eyes fall directly in the middle of the face. The bast way I can see to fix this is to actually raise the hair a bit (not too much) which will give a better proportion for the skull. Also, her lips look like they're facing us too much. They need to be a bit more at a 3/4 view along with the rest of her face. Not bad though. Those are just a few minor touches.
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Valesco Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2010  Hobbyist
well, i actually thought to erase they eye(s) completely, and do them again...would it be enough to make the colour of the mouth fade a bit, so that it will step out of the viewer's focus?
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fromthedead Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
I wouldn't erase the eyes. They're actually fine. What I'd do is redraw the mouth. Forshorten it a bit more (make the side of the lip facing us bigger). And just raise the hair a bit.
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