The original flag of the USA, known as ‘Betsy Ross’, was first flown in 1777. It consisted of thirteen horizontal stripes of alternating red and white, with a blue canton displaying a circle of thirteen stars to represent the country’s founding states. The design was similar to that of the British East India Company and was in use until 1795.
Lots of hypocrisy and ulterior motives were involved with the conflict and the lead up to it. A very clear case of the victory writing history at anyrate.
The American Revolution however WAS NOT a black and white affair and that is fact, and American pride and arrogance won't change that. Those you call revisionist in this case are not always wrong, not all revision is bad as we have learnt when new evidence forces us to rethink what we know (cases like Roman and Ancient Egypt for example) and so on and that's what's happened with the American Revolution, was it justified? yes but was it as simple as a war against Tyranny? no it wasn't especially when you consider not everything the Brits did was tyrannical and indeed some of if was actually fairly reasonable given things at the time and of course George III was no tyrant he wasn't even an absolute monarch it was Parliament that had most of the power.
Will you do some Civil War flags, ou l'as-tu déjà fait ? Stp.
I don't know many other Civil War flags... Like regimental flags and stuff... The USA used the standard Union-flag (just with a different number of stars), and the CSA used 3 successive flags, as I mentioned. Maybe I can do the other two, we'll see
Although she may have made a flag or two in her day, it is likely Betsy Ross never designed or make the first US flag. The most likely designer was a guy named Francis Hopkinson...he also gave us the Great Seal. The "Betsy Ross Myth" was made up by her grandson about 90 years after the fact.
The 13 stars and 13 stripes represent the first 13 states. The plan was to add a star and a stripe to the flag for each new state. By the time they got to 17 stripes they finally figured out that would not work. So they went back to 13 stripes for the 13 colonies that became the first states and added a star to the canton for each state...fifty to date.
But I do agree with you...this is a much better composition than our current flag.
Every revolution, movement or new country immediately needs heroic stories and myths to bolster their cause.
The original symbolism of flags is always fascinating. I didn't know about that idea of adding a star and a stripe for each new state... A cool anecdote
I actually almost want to open Photoshop now and make a flag like that just to see how it looks XD
The flags of most nations have a standard ratio of width to height. Ours is 1:1.09 but the Star Spangled Banner that flew during the War of 1812 and is the source of out national anthem had 15 stripes and they just added the last two stripes to change that ratio. A flag with 50 stripes would look silly, so 13 stripes is what we have. The last 2 stars were added in 1959 when Alaska and Hawaii became states. Not likely there will be any more stars added unless one of the territories become states...and the only one likely to is Puerto Rico.
If Puerto Rico ever becomes a state, I wonder how they will (re)arrange the stars.
What do you think of the CSA's 'Blood-Stained Banner', design-wise?
The ‘Star Spangled Banner’ that flew over Fort McHenry in 1812, was 30 feet by 42 feet and in now (or what is left of it) in the Smithsonian.
Adding a star is always a problem in geometry. It is easier if there is an even number. When the 14th state (Vermont) became a state they added a star in the middle of the circle of stars. At one point the stars were in the shape of a star. Another time there were even numbered star rows except for the middle row which was one less. For about 3 months (before Hawaii) there was a 49 star flag and that is quite rare and valuable now.
CSA’s Blood Stained Banner is, I think, a poor design. It seems more about symbolism than anything else. Few people here would even know about it as it was the 3rd version of the CSA flag. Mostly here it is the “Confederate Flag” that is remembered and recognized. But now that has more of a racial or segregation symbolism than a Civil War flag.
Yes, yesterday I looked through all the different US flags, but none really beats the Betsy Ross design. Don't know why, but it looks great. There's a nice-looking 51-star US flag proposed by some political party in Puerto Rico if it becomes a state: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_…
And on reddit, there was a US flag with 1 big star and "x51" written next to it, as solution if a 51st state is added to the Union ^^
About the CSA flags... I don't know... Design-wise, I like the Blood Stained Banner, but I don't think it would be good as a national flag. It looks more like a naval flag to me. And the (in)famous Confederate battle flag is so 'stained', but in a very weird way. Not like the Nazi German flag. Most people here in Europe are 'afraid' of that flag, it's nothing to joke about because it's mostly seen as a horrible symbol of racial, genocidal tyranny. But it seems many people in Europe consider the CSA battle flag some kind of "idiotic-villain"-flag, the symbol of a backward idea/society which is embodied today by the stereotype rednecks & hillbillies of Alabama and such places: a kind of people that are so supremely stupid, you can only laugh at and ignore them. Whereas the historical CSA-leaders were anything but supremely stupid, I think. People don't really know about the CSA and the American Civil War here... I would like to know more about how that is all viewed in the USA today.
I think the Star Spangled Banner will only be on display for a few more years and then go back into storage. It is so huge and can no longer be hung so it is hard to display. It was conserved and cleaned a few years ago in preparation for the centennial. And I do agree, the best design we have ever had over the years was the Betsy Ross flag.
Where you live pretty much determines how you view the Civil War. Most still think it was all about freeing the slaves, but it really was about preserving the Union. Emancipation came late in the war, sometime in the 3rd year and was an attempt to force an end to conflict. There are places in the south where it is called “The War of Northern Aggression”. They still honor the Confederate Flag. There are still some areas where racial conflicts can be found...and even some in the northern states.