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Chaos-Craft999 Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2019  Hobbyist General Artist
Btw, do you have any detailed drawings about Yamato's turret? i appreciate it if you have some, i need it for my pixel blueprint.
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Chaos-Craft999 Featured By Owner Edited Mar 11, 2019  Hobbyist General Artist
I have questions regarding the 46cm/50 which was originally proposed for yamato.

Does the 46cm/45 Type 94 share the same turret as 46cm/50? Or is the 46cm/50 larger(the size of turret and barbette)? Does it use the same turret from Number 13?

Im sorry for bothering you too much if it seems i have been too needy for information.
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Tzoli Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2019  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No the no.13 was a 1920's design with an enlarged Nagato (British stlye) turret
the 50 calibre Type 94 probably would use the same turret as the Yamato as you seen on my drawings. it would only need stronger elevating mechanisms and maybe a bit longer turret. Barbette diameter was based on number of guns, guns calibre, their spacing and loading mechanisms.
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Chaos-Craft999 Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2019  Hobbyist General Artist
if sharing the same turret design without changes, are the the reload rate affected?

I think it could decrease the rate of fire... or so i thought
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Tzoli Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2019  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No!
Why do you think so?
It's the same 46cm cannon using the same shells, the longer barrel only means higher muzzle velocity thus better penetration and range and better accuracy (less spread)
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Chaos-Craft999 Featured By Owner Edited Mar 11, 2019  Hobbyist General Artist
well, i guess that concludes it, a 45 caliber cannon has littler difference compared to 50 caliber, only having stronger components. All that's left is the 51cm gun. I know the twin 51cm uses the same yamato turret, the triple is the real question. Do you know how exactly big it is?

is the 50 caliber for 51cm possible?
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Tzoli Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2019  Hobbyist Digital Artist
There are many differences.
Muzzle velocity is an important factor in gun and a logner barrel is always better. Look at the guns of the North Carolina/South Dakota and Iowa/Montana
Close design dates yet much different characteristics

an 50 calibre 51cm cannon... a very large weapon and maybe I say MAYBE USA would be able to make it!

We have no data on the Super Yamato turrets!
Yamato would had been upgunned to 51cm hence the twin having the same turret as the triple 46cm
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Chaos-Craft999 Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2019  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, i thought it would take alot of space inside, and the mechanism has to be redesigned or it will have lesser barrel life. The longer barrel made me think that the gun has to be pushed further inward the turret to counter the weight, the elevation mechanism might've a difficult time. along with that change, the gun would be loaded with 2 out of 6 charges each time, making use of piston 4 times per shot.

its a pure speculation, and i have nothing or no sources to back me up so, im not really right about what i think:
I thought that since 50 caliber variant is further extended outwards, the elevation rate would be slower because of additional weight, i used abit of lever and center of gravity physics to understand this, though i never calculated how much it affects, i guessed and used my intuition(possibly a bad idea to use pure guesses and hunches).

and about why i speculated why it would need a larger turret, is because of the recoil. The only thing that gave me this idea, is that since the barrel is long, the shell would take even more time to leave(even if its just nanoseconds, i think has huge differences), resulting to recoil being pushed further back. 

for real, what changes would actually affect the gun and the turret if it was 50 caliber?
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Tzoli Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2019  Hobbyist Digital Artist
you only need stronger hydraulics for the gun elevation
the 46cm/45 gun was 46x45 = 20,7 meters
46cm/50 was 46x50 = 23m long, almost 2,5m extra length. that would mean maybe around 0,5m deeper in the turret, but this was a speculation. I'm no turret designer, I use my insticts to make such turrets.
You should search for the turrets of the South Carolina and Iowa as those are quite similar turrets yet use different guns.
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