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Vinyl Scratch_LOUDER

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This actually started out as a doodle. It was fun to make. To all bronies, take a look around for a few easter eggs. Just for credit, the vinyl art is album art by Silva and General Mumble (check them on youtube, they make awesome songs)

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Time: around 12 hours
Programs: Photoshop CS5/ Sketchbook Pro
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XxRareJewelxX's avatar
:star::star::star::star: Overall
:star::star::star::star::star-half: Vision
:star::star::star::star-half::star-empty: Originality
:star::star::star::star::star-half: Technique
:star::star::star::star::star-half: Impact

Okay, I'm going to tell you straight forward, I love this piece. Everything about it. I think you did and absolutely amazing job.
I say that the angle is just great. you can really see Vinyl's features and records. Oh! The records, great detail on those too. I like how you put the words on the one and the hoofs on the other one.
You also did just a great job with the shading, just absolutely amazing. The lighting and how you made it look like everything was glowing like the billboard in the background for example. The LOUDER!! Piece is just great. That really must have taken so long to get everything the way you wanted it to be, But look at the outcome! Just, I have so many nice things to say about this piece! I also like how you put the 'trail' from her headphones in the piece too. That little detail makes the piece so much better.
Honestly, the only part I don't like about this is how you made the goggles look like glasses, not goggles. Everything else is just, beautiful. Everything from the lighting to the little extra details that most people would not include.
Keep up the great work!
By the way this is my first critique so it may not be all that great but, still, its my opinion that this piece is wonderful. Not everyone will agree with me. I may not agree with everyone's opinion just I won't say its wrong.
Duckbro's avatar
:star::star::star::star::star-empty: Overall
:star::star::star::star::star-empty: Vision
:star::star::star::star-empty::star-empty: Originality
:star::star::star::star::star: Technique
:star::star::star::star::star-empty: Impact

Vision: When I think of the term "vision" I always think in the concept of how something like this would look in the real world. When I go to a concert and I see flashing lights everywhere I see some things stand out more so than others. And that is obviously due to how the lighting is set up. It is there for some things to stand out and others to blend in. That's what I see as far as how the "vision" of this piece goes. In a big concert hall where several strobe lights are flashing and the bass is turned up to abnormally high levels, one would see something very similar to this. So I give it a fairly high rating on vision.

Originality: Now although I disagree with Scootawho on a lot of his points he does bring up a point about originality. But I don't view originality as only what was drawn but also in how technique was used. You mixed and matched several different styles into one that I personally feel meshes well. But this once again goes from my past experiences in night clubs and other such things. I found the mix and match style to be far more original than the work that attempts to mimic the style of the show. It's art right? why make it look exactly the same when you can create something using a different style or several different styles. Now of course points are docked because there is some unoriginality in the piece but that's to be expected when creating fan art.

Technique: This is where I would have to disagree with Scoot a lot. As I mentioned before when in a night club dancing and watching the strobe lights, everything seems to blend in a weird way. But the things that always seem to stand out are the speakers, the DJ, and anything that has a light source. All of this is represented in an almost shocking way in this picture. Without Scratch standing there I would guess that this was a drawing explaining how they wanted the set up for the stage to look. The mixing of different styles is actually very appealing to me as it helps create a focus on important factors of the picture.

Impact: As I've said before the picture reminds me of when I spent time in night clubs. It makes me feel as if everyone there is having a good time. Scratch is showing off and dancing around the stage putting on a show. It honestly makes me want to be there enjoying the music. I wouldn't say it's the best Scratch picture I've ever seen but it is damn good. So yea... that's all I gotta say. Looking forward to whatever else you create.

Much love from The Kilted One
SiliconGlass's avatar
:star::star::star::star::star-half: Overall
:star::star::star::star::star: Vision
:star::star::star::star::star-half: Originality
:star::star::star::star::star: Technique
:star::star::star::star::star: Impact

I'll begin with this: stunning and professional. I have never seen such a cool pose for this side character on DA, the action and mood in the picture is exactly the way I would picture it if it were a part of the MLP: FiM show.

How you make it seem so believable is what amazes me, I love all the background that you placed in and the words "louder" in the background.

The only suggestions I would make would be simple clean up, refine some blurry lines and uneven structures. Once that's done, you've got nothing else to worry about.

I only hope you won't let other harsh critics down talk this fine piece, don't let anyone fool you- this is very prestigious work.

I only hope that you will make many more pieces inspired by the MLP series, your contributions are a great benefit to the fandom <img src="e.deviantart.net/emoticons/s/s…" width="15" height="15" alt=":)" title=":) (Smile)"/>
ThePoeticPaladin's avatar
Did you bother to look at the fullview image?
ThePoeticPaladin's avatar
:star::star::star-empty::star-empty::star-empty: Overall
:star::star-empty::star-empty::star-empty::star-empty: Vision
:star::star-half::star-empty::star-empty::star-empty: Originality
:star::star::star::star-half::star-empty: Technique
:star::star::star-empty::star-empty::star-empty: Impact

Vision: I can't claim to see any overarching "point of view, theme or idea" (to quote the guidelines for critiques) that this piece attempts to reflect or convey. From your artist comments, it seems that you weren't necessarily aiming to convey any such concepts.

I also can't necessarily claim to feel that a piece needs to show an overarching viewpoint, theme or idea in order to be objectively "good". Sometimes, a piece is created solely for aesthetic appeal. In that sense, this piece accomplishes its goal, though it doesn't necessarily fall under DA's purview of "Vision".

Originality: I've always held to the ideal that, as Jim Jarmusch said, nothing is original. That said, there are some concepts that are more original than others. Fan art is less original than wholly original works, for example. Similarly, art of Vinyl Scratch DJing isn't necessarily a stretch of the imagination.

This piece isn't very original. It is, however, good.

Technique: I have mixed feelings about how well executed this piece is.

I suppose that is the best way to describe what's wrong with this piece, stylistically. It's mixed.

Parts of this piece show a style that imitates paintings in real life. Vinyl's coat and mane show brush strokes that mimic painting. As a digital painting, she stands out as well done. But she doesn't fit the the style of the rest of the image, and the juxtaposition that is struck, if stylistic, does not convey this feeling. She feels as though she is from another image, and cropped into the one seen before us.

The rest of the image feels intermittently out-of-focus. Using sparse amounts of detail in the background can, stylistically, come off as well done, but that feeling is not present here. Parts of the background, such as the corners of the speakers, or the podium that the turntables are placed on, are smooth and lightly detailed. Other parts, such as the records themselves, or the grating over the speakers, appear overly detailed, rivaling the detail present in Scratch herself.

Each individual section of this piece is well done, but when placed together, they feel out of place, as though each component belongs to a different overall piece, rather than the image we see before us.

Impact: The question DA asks me about "Impact" is:
"Does the artwork resonate with you or evoke strong emotions? Does it make you think? Does it blow your mind?"
The answer I give DA is... No. Not really. The image is cute, yes. It's well drawn. But I don't find myself feeling anything particularly strong as a result of having seen it. No thoughts or feelings have been introduced to me that I otherwise would not have held.

That's not necessarily bad, no. Not every image has to be a political piece. But this piece didn't have much of an impact on me. It's well drawn, but beyond that, nothing.
Neoguest's avatar
This is not critiquing
ThePoeticPaladin's avatar
Yes, it is. I'm sorry that you do not understand constructive criticism.
Neoguest's avatar
I took three art class and did critique on art works and I know what constructive criticism.
ThePoeticPaladin's avatar
Forgive me for the presumption, but would not the fact that you have to cite your credentials show that you have no solid foundation on which you can fall upon? After all, if you actually understood critique, I'd presume that you would be confident in this knowledge.

As it is, I can tell that you don't.
Neoguest's avatar
I say that I actually did critique a person artwork at the art classes I took. Your critique are rude.
ThePoeticPaladin's avatar
That's nice of you to share.

I don't care about your opinion, though. Lamentable, really.
Jrakob's avatar
"I've always held to the ideal that, as Jim Jarmusch said, nothing is original. That said, there are some concepts that are more original than others. Fan art is less original than wholly original works"

you create an art piece of Jesus, or a beautiful women that you really like. how is that original art but not this?

both mlp and Jesus are vary popular and hated, so why when someone creates art of a person or place is it original, but you say that fan art is not?

I purpose this concept to you. just because something is fan art does not necessarily mean it is not original.
Fan art can be completely original.
You must consider that anything aside from abstract art is still drawing from things that already exist or ideas that already exist.

So when you say things like
"Fan art is less original than wholly original works"
and yet in the same breath say "I've always held to the ideal that, as Jim Jarmusch said, nothing is original."
you seem like a bit of a fool.

Either you think art can be original or you don't think any art is at all, make up your mind, it cant be both.

I think your rating on originality is vary unfair.
ThePoeticPaladin's avatar
You've got an unstated major premise there, bro. Namely, you're assuming that I feel a drawing of Jesus would be "original".

It wouldn't be. It's using someone else's character to represent an idea. And odds are, that idea will be something that has been done before. Multiple times.

Drawing a girl that you like? More original than fanart, because fanart is of something that has already been done. A girl that you like (unless it's a celebrity crush or something)? That's more original, because you have absolute freedom. Any idea is a new idea.

It's still corny as fuck, and odds are it will suck. But it's better than fanart.

>"You must consider that anything aside from abstract art is still drawing from things that already exist or ideas that already exist."

No, I don't have to consider that, because that's fucking stupid.

Seriously, that's stupid. I've heard a lot of stupid shit in my day, and "you have to consider that everything that exists already existed" is pretty high up on the list of "stupid shit I've heard".

>So when you say things like

Do you know what the expression "that said" means, when used in the context of the English vernacular? Because you sound like a bit of a fool when you correct me on a juxtaposition that I acknowledged.

>make up your mind

I did. Original art is original, original fanart is more original than unoriginal fanart (but not as original as wholly original work), and unoriginal art is unoriginal.

>unfair

Go fuck yourself, I'm still not sure why I gave it a 1.5. I was tempted to give it a .5, but at least it's not stolen. Not sure why it's not a solid 1, though.
Jrakob's avatar
"No, I don't have to consider that, because that's fucking stupid."
oh yeah you really showed me.
ThePoeticPaladin's avatar
Clearly, I have, because you've fallen to cherry-picking arguments to find what suits you. An ad hominem that is periphery to a reductio ad absurdum? That's not the priority. Refute the reductio ad absurdum, then maybe you can call me out for calling you out on your stupidity.
Jrakob's avatar
well it's hard to cherry-pick an argument like yours when it's so full of pointless insults and baseless claims.
ThePoeticPaladin's avatar
>baseless claims

:iconfacepalmplz:

Hey, bro? Google "irony".
Tsitra360's avatar
Thanks for this great critique! I have to admit that this painting was just from a doodle I made, and the background was my playground. What that means is that I experimented rendering the different elements in different ways, so that may explain how things look out of place haha ^^; .

Vision: "can't necessarily claim to feel that a piece needs to show an overarching viewpoint" I agree with that statement. This was fan art, and as a fan I just had fun with it.

Originality: I actually don't agree on that statement that fan art is not capable of being original. I have seen many examples of fan art for different shows/movies/ and games that you would have thought was an original piece in themselves. My painting here isn't one of those pieces but I hope you get my point.

Technique: I kinda already explained this in my intro, but I have to say thanks on recognizing my paint style I gave Vinyl and the details I gave on the decks. Two completely different painting styles, that I thought didn't contrast that much. Oh well.

Impact: Aw, that's fine. I had fun painting it. Throwing in ideas like the sandwich and the out of focus glasses :)

Again, thanks for this well made critique. Looking at your profile I can see why. Your a writer! :) Would you like to add me to your watch list? I don't actually ask that question that much but I would love to hear more of your critiques or comments in the future. They strive me to do better!
martybpix's avatar
I am actually using this as my wallpaper right now. It fits well :D
Tsitra360's avatar
Thanks, it does on mine too.
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