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Mass Effect 3: Yo Dawg! by TheWonderingSword Mass Effect 3: Yo Dawg! by TheWonderingSword
Explains the Mass Effect 3 ending to a T. Also, it is something I picked on the interwebs, doesn't belong to me and do not press the buy print button! It is just a LOL! :D

Also, for those bashing the "recall" movement, I gotta ask, what is wrong with giving the players what they want/payed for/you promised?

Fully explained here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy0kAf…

Oh and a video on how to do endings (in general) right: youtu.be/h0JVUpMNIn0

And a "Where are they now?" ending: www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG4Eyf…

And check out my version of the End to Mass Effect 3. It starts here: thewonderingsword.deviantart.c…

Update: The Refusal Ending from the EC DLC- www.youtube.com/watch?v=czKq9H…

Koobismo speaks of comics, Leviathans and how to write a damn good story: fav.me/d5d7f66

And before you jump into a defense of the original ending, ignoring that fact that this is a meme, take a look at this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj9q8r…

My final thoughts (so far) on the whole ending business and why people still seem to drag it/defend it- www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIm8vV…
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snakewrangler08 Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2017
What insane breed of logic is that?
(The ending, not you.)
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TheWonderingSword Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2017   Writer
:D
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TheRealMrVendetta Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2017
I thought this was a Fallout 4 joke when I first read it.
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TheWonderingSword Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2017   Writer
:D
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TheWonderingSword Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2015   Writer
"The demand for a better ending was very easily skewed by those who stood by the original ending  (and the new ending DLC) saying that Bioware has a right to do whatever it wants with their product."

I also believe that the EC and specially the Citadel DLC were designed to split the fandom and manipulate it, specially catering to the shippers.
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TheWonderingSword Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2015   Writer
"I highly doubt that Bioware would have ended Mass Effect the way they did (and treated their fanbase the way they did) if Electronic Arts did not own them. "

Yes, you could see the EA's corporate influence seep in into BioWare products as far back as Dragon Age: Origins and ME2. But as far as this controversy goes, well, this is what I have to say about it (not that I dissagree with what you wrote. After all I've gone so far as to create not only my own ending, but three fan fic series based on it) - www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIm8vV…
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Stickeavo Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2014
To be fair the Catalyst made more sense with Leviathan DLC and Extended Cut. But I only see these two things as a way for the writers to justify their last minute blunder. Instead of a well designed final level where you see your choices play out and see how your friends and allies are doing, we have some of the worst case of circular logic and gameplay/story segregation I've seen. The Reapers really didn't need justification. Knowing at the end of ME2 that they harvested us to create more of themselves was enough justification for me. Also, I doubt that Shepard as a character would believe the Catalyst. You spend the entire game witnessing what the Reapers did to different races (banshees and cannibals are the worst IMO) then it tells you that it is here to "save"organic life. I just cannot buy that. These human colonists on the Collector base, these Ardat-Yakshi on the monastery and all these mutated batarians and turians just seem like cruelty for the sake of cruelty to me. I have a hard time believing that the writers re-read their own script for the ending when they were done. I don't even think they consulted with the gameplay and character design teams to see if their ending was consistent with how the rest of the game was designed. I won't pretend that I know how to design games but shouldn't the writers make sure that their story benefit from the gameplay? In the case of ME3's ending, we have Shepard surviving a direct hit from a Reaper in a cutscene when minutes ago another Reaper could kill her with ONE hit. Then she goes up to the beam and take trauma that should have killed her assuming she survived. After a "dialogue fight", we are treated to a bunch of exposition about how Reapers are saving lives when during most of the gameplay AND cutscene time, we see them only ending lives or turning people into monsters. I know they were rushed but I don't know... If I had that kind of deadline, I would scraped the idea that the scary two kilometer tale mechanical space gods needed a justification and focused on making a final battle with the series main antagonist, Harbinger.
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TheWonderingSword Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2014   Writer
I agree with almost everything (I think Leviathan and EC made things worst, IHMO) and while I came up with my own reason for what the Reapers do what they do, I agree they really didn't need one.
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Renekade Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
XD SO HILARIOUS!
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Mishai Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
but...they kill only advanced races so they cant advance to stage where they can create stuff which kill all life...so life will preserve...its like killing most sdvanced coutries before they reach nuclear weapons technology discovery....
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TheWonderingSword Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2014   Writer
Yet that is no solution if countries keep creating nuclear weapons, is it? Deferred genocide is still genocide. Also killing people for before they kill themselves is asinine.
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Mishai Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
but machines dont care about genocide...they are not moral...they simply fill the purpose..secure preservation of life at all cost...if every civilisation reach after 50 000rears technology which can wipe all life...it is pretty much  solution wipe them before they can do it....it is pretty awesome when you think about it:) it shows how the noble goal can end really bad for you when you dont count with ruthless effectivity of machines which will proced our orders without hesitation ....
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TheWonderingSword Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2014   Writer
No, it's illogical and badly written. There was no good intention here, just bad writing.
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Mishai Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
but it was concept from me1 from Drew Karpyshyn ...the guy which writed whole mass effect basis....he is exelent writter and idea about machines which goes in noble goal to protect life with machine non-moral efficency so far so they end wiping all potencial threads in pattern cycles...its great...  and logical:/
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TheWonderingSword Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2014   Writer
No, ME1 had none of that. Quite the opposite the Reapers where unknowable and destructive. Sovereign didn't even acknowledged the wants or needs of organics and said, "You exist because we allow it, you will end because we demand it." This was a last minute ass pull ignoring all of Mass Effect 2 and significant parts of ME3. It may...may have worked if ME3 was a direct sequel to the first game, but not as an end of the trilogy. Just because you accept the flawed premises of the writers doesn't make it logical in anyway. Destroying what you are supposed to protect is not logical at all, regardless of who wrote it.
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Mishai Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
okey you obviously dont understand it and dont wanna even think about it...and im really not interestend to explain it to you which seems as talking to wall anyway...just block each other and have nice day...
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Team-Friction Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2014
Fucking brilliant.
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TheWonderingSword Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2014   Writer
:D
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SparrowStew Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014
yo dawg
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wsan1 Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I loved Mass Effect, flaws and all...but GOSH DARN IT THAT SIR WAS TOO DAMN FUNNY! LOLOLOLOL LMFAO. Problem?
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Renekade Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I agree XD
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MichaelBerretta Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2013
This comment will contain MAJOR spoilers.

In all fairness, the Leviathans didn't actually create the catalyst to kill everyone. They told it to "Find a solution."
Unfortunately, that was the solution it found.
But I do agree,  logic kind of went out the window with that.
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TheWonderingSword Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2013   Writer
I generally ignore Leviathan, since it seems to me like a retcon to somehow make sense of something that made little sense, and in my personal opinion the retcon failed miserably.
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MichaelBerretta Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2013
Each to their own, I suppose.
But I really enjoyed Leviathan, myself.
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Chris-Bylow Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2013
Reading all these comments brings back all of my hate and heartbreak.
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FellitoRockero Featured By Owner May 13, 2013
It seems the Catalyst got too much dump in its drives.
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TheWonderingSword Featured By Owner May 14, 2013   Writer
Pretty much, yeah!
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CMY187 Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2013
I think it would have been far better if Harbinger himself came to speak to you at the Crucible rather than the Catalyst.
Everything just stops, all the Reapers cease their destruction, and the entire galaxy awaits your decision.
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TheWonderingSword Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2013   Writer
I agree. That's why I split the difference in my version of the ending. :D [link]
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Vehementscythe1337 Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2013
story of my life.

I guess this is what happens in terminator, but in the future.
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Alzar197 Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
..... seems legit
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DeadBoltSentinel Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013
Don't mean to be an asshole but they were harvested and turned into reapers against their will.
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TheWonderingSword Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2013   Writer
Sorry, I don't understand your point...not trying to be difficult, it just seems to come out of the blue.
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DeadBoltSentinel Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2013
Well the reaper have technology to transfer a consciousness from a being to an AI what the reapers do is harvest species each 5,000 years and transfer these consciousnesses from their bodies to the new reaper created every cycle they "Harvest" or "Preserve" the species and knowledge of these species. They do not truly destroy these species.
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TheWonderingSword Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2013   Writer
Oh boy! First, we don't know that. All we know is that they liquify people to create a Reaper. Second, if this is "preservation" what are they preserving them for? We never see them share their knowledge or create anything with it except more Reapers. Third, only one civilization in a cycle (maybe less) is preserved, everyone else is turned into mindless zombies, blasted from orbit or turned into indoctrinated slaves. Fourth, the very idea that a) synthetic life is a problem when b) the only ones doing the extermination are the Reapers is circular logic/reasoning at its worst.

But hey, if you want to believe that, go ahead. Sure, because when I think of "preserving" something, the first thing that comes to mind is "blast/enslave/liquify" everything within reach, rinse and repeat every 50k years.
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DeadBoltSentinel Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2013
The catalyst specifically said "We harvest the advanced species and store them in reaper form.
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TheWonderingSword Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2013   Writer
Hence the term "circular logic". The catalyst may say whatever it wants, but everything in 3 games points out to the exact opposite. Nor does it explain how or what are they "preserving" them for. The only thing they do is create more Reapers. That is reproduction, not preservation.
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DeadBoltSentinel Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2013
And that's their flaw, this is explained in leviathan that the catalyst was an AI that was created to preserve all organic life. btw leviathans are assholes. anyway every reaper is the combine knowledge of a preserves species, every reaper is the result of a cycle, all of which contain the knowledge experiences of the cycles species, in the reapers point of view they are "Preserving" the species. and they are preserving them so that they don't get destroyed by their own synthetics. And it was explained in ME2 how they do it, turn them into paste and experiences memories and knowledge is transferred via this paste. The reapers contradict themselves
but the previous cycles species are acting as reapers controlled by the catalyst and have a consciousness much like the geth.
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TheWonderingSword Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2013   Writer
Okay, there is a difference between what a character may or may not believe in and what the story presents. Also, the are no "previous cycles species" they are Reapers that keep doing the same thing over and over again, which doesn't fix anything nor it is properly explain how a synthetic threat (outside the Reapers themselves) is greater than an organic one. It is not simply that the Reapers contradict themselves, it is that the writers throwout everything they established and re-write the rules of their own universe (via the "options" of the Crucible) to fit what was a plot point that they themselves refuted a half a dozen times over two games.

Again, the Starbrat can believe anything he wants, use whatever insane troll logic it chooses, but there is no reason for the writers to then re-configure the story to make this the rule of their universe. The Leviathans just add a new layer of idiocy to the whole thing, trying to retcon this and failing miserably.
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StarWarsMegaFan Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2013
worst logic ever
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TheWonderingSword Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2013   Writer
Logic? What logic? :D
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TheShyLion Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2013
Think of it as "There is no spoon" from the Matrix - in this game - "There is no logic". :P
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TheWonderingSword Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2013   Writer
And seeing how that trilogy went down....yeah....:(
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liars-crutch Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2013
alot of people seem to be defending the ending, so I thought I should bring up. A reaper says "I am the harbringer of your destruction". Whoever wrote the catalysts speech at the end of three, clearly never even played the other two.


or maybe Harbringer was just out of the loop.
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TheWonderingSword Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2013   Writer
:D
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Vengent Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2013
hahahahaha
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oOPPHOo Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2013
People understand that this is the logic of the Reapers, right? You know, the godlike machines which have been doing their routine for an eternity? They have their own logic. It was even justified logic until the Geth and Quarians united. That just isn't enough to convince the Reapers that they now all of a sudden are wrong. They are wrong! No questioning that. It's just important to know how the Reaper's sense of logic works.
It's also important to know that this isn't what Shepard believes. The only option he doesn't have (counting only what is within Shepard's power) is to let the Reapers continue their cycle (unless you count the choice of "rejecting" the Catalyst but even here Shepard says he is against it too). With that knowledge it would be fair to say that BioWare doesn't agree with the Reapers either. Yet that is EXACTLY what I hear tons of people saying. They even state it as the reason why they dislike the ending. There are plenty of reasons to dislike the ending but this isn't one of them.
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TheWonderingSword Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2013   Writer
Except that whoever built the Crucible also seemed to agree with the Reapers logic, since all endings accept it and since it was what BioWare belched forward (and did not fix), it is what they believe as well, unless they prove otherwise, which they have not.
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oOPPHOo Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2013
Late reply... It's rare that I'm on dA and it's even rarer that I check my notifications...

Who represents BioWare more? Shepard or those who built the Crucible? Several people at BW mention Shepard as their favorite character because the choices he can make is based on the choices the people of BioWare might choose between if in the same position. I've already told you Shepard's beliefs, and not ONE outcome agrees with the reapers logic as the best solution. The outcomes merely accepts the limitations of the Crucible.
What would you have done in that situation? Do you feel there's an option missing? Because the only missing option I can think of is Shepard going "What a great idea! How come I never thought about killing most current organic life for the purpose of saving all future organic life?!"
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