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If something fan made, ruins a franchise for you, you're an idiot

Getting a bit sick of people complaining that fetish art, shipping, fanfiction and anything else is ruininging or has ruined MLP, Cuphead, Undertale whatever. By telling people not to do this stuff you're trying to stifle freedom of expression when all you need to do is click on something else or is that too much to comprehend? If you're about to counter with "think about the children" most of the stuff that they usually can see is no worse than what they are already seeing in their cartoons and if they really do come across something they shouldn't be seeing, where the hell are their parents?

This stamp is, of course, free to use if you feel the same way
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DankLaxr Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2018
You know, this kinda makes sense.
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BlueWaterStream Featured By Owner May 11, 2018  Hobbyist Writer
People just need to pay less attention. Whenever somebody draws something that makes them and a few others happy, just let them. There's no need to let a few pictures ruin something that you love.

Or something you could potentially love.
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HyperFlannel Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2018  Professional Digital Artist
When I was about eight years old, I regularly frequented Newgrounds, because my mom was under the impression that I couldn't get around her parental controls. I could. And I would come across hardcore porn of Spongebob and Mario on a near-daily basis. It didn't traumatize me, it didn't kill me, my only concern whenever I would stumble into it was whether or not my parents are gonna find out I saw it, because then there would be no more Newgrounds, and I'd have to explain why the parental controls didn't block it off from me. If anything, being regularly exposed to it at a young age was actually majorly beneficial to me by desensitizing me to it early on. Because even with parental controls, even with filters like Google Safe Search or the YouTube Kids app, this stuff is still going to slip through the cracks, there really is no avoiding it. When a kid logs into the Internet for the first time, you might as well rip that band-aid off right then and there, because they're going to have to get used to it eventually, because there is pretty much no not using the Internet in this day and age. There are simply too many jobs and too many school functions that are going to require you to know how to use a computer and Internet, that's why they have classes in Elementary schools to teach it. People who run around like a chicken with its head cut off shrieking "think of da childwen!" need to have their heads cut off for real.
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mCoolmMonkeym Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2017
It's never surprising that stamps and stuff like this only come from people who are a part of the communities that tend to give people a bad taste in their mouth (no pun intended XD) about certain franchises.

People who genuinely decide to dislike the source material because of fan-made content are idiots, but that doesn't mean the bad/sexual communities aren't ruining anything. What about childhood ruining? I know it's more of a joke at this point but it's still not nice to see your favorite childhood characters covered in saliva eating each other or something :O_o: I got requested to draw Mickey Mouse in a BDSM situation (I didn't do it obviously :bleh:), but that doesn't mean I now hate all Disney things.

If you want to complain about "haters" and argue for "don't like don't look", why not consider options to prevent them accidentally finding your content in the first place to complain about it? Mature content filters, posting to fetish-oriented websites etc. Then everybody's happy! :dummy:
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TheLittledDemonCat Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2017  Hobbyist
((Mature content filter)) For something that's no worse than what you would see in a cartoon I don't think so. I literally drew something that was directly from cuphead and it's ok if the game does it, but shame if I do it?....I have a bit of a problem with that logic. If the art in questions a bit more than what you would see in a kid's cartoon then yes I will filter it if necessary. By the way, marking your artist mature content doesn't stop people from complaining


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posting to fetish-oriented websites )) but if the work in question is not breaking the website's rules I have every right to post it here as well. If another artist is posting something I don't care for here and their art is not breaking any rules, I leave them alone and just want the same respect back

now I'm not saying that everyone has to like everything and it's fine if your not into stuff like vore or other fetishes, hell I will say it's generally not a good idea to request fetish art for an artist who doesn't draw it, but saying someone art is 
 ruining your childhood is basically saying that they're not allowed to enjoy something because you don't. 

(( but that doesn't mean the bad/sexual communities aren't ruining anything)) if you can't handle seeing a piece of fan art because it's a bit less PG than the source material then way go looking at fanart at all? 
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mCoolmMonkeym Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2017
Yeah, it's just the thing is with fetish art is that the intentions are completely different to the original concept even if the imagery is the same or similar. It is better off the creators doing it than you because it was for the sake of their game and a funny gag. You did it for... Other reasons I wouldn't prefer to describe. Also, you're assuming nobody gets creeped out by vore or other things like that in general. Many people may not like it in any context at all. I'm fine with it because I love cartoons, but never ever when it's sexual like in your art for example. I draw the line there. And about the mature content filter, I was saying that adding one would justify you in using the "don't like don't look" argument because they would have to search for it, click the button to see your deviation through the filter, and then complain. It would be stupid of them to do that when they had a clear warning. Telling people "don't like don't look" is generally pointless unless the person had definite intentions of finding your art to complain about it. Most people stumble upon unfiltered fetish art by accident.

True.

No, my point was that they should at least have the decency to keep it away from people they fully know will dislike it. Rule 34 artists and fetish artists rarely take precautions to keep their things away from public view of everyone, for example slightly blurring out private parts in their submissions, cropping the private parts out and leaving the rest (usually with disturbing lewd faces or poses) or (for fetish artists) using the "but there's no nudity!" excuse. I get that you guys want commissions because art may be how you make a living but that doesn't mean exposing anyone and everyone in the hopes someone will buy.

I don't look for fanart and I doubt alot of other people who hate this stuff do. What poor innocent soul searches for their favorite characters on the internet in 2017? My point is that the stuff appears without warning and is near to being unavoidable. That's what's ruining fandoms. The source material is fine, but it taints the name of it. I love anthros, but because of the name the furry fandom has built for themselves, if I had a kid I wouldn't let them anywhere near a furry.
I don't know why it's ok for you to say people should leave the internet/certain websites because the bad communities' stuff makes them uncomfortable but it's not ok for anyone to say you should keep sexual art within the communities that indulge in it :shrug:
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TheLittledDemonCat Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2017  Hobbyist
(Yeah, it's just the thing is with fetish art is that the intentions are completely different to the original concept even if the imagery is the same or similar. It is better off the creators doing it than you because it was for the sake of their game and a funny gag. You did it for... Other reasons I wouldn't prefer to describe)) Not all people who draw vore or GT stuff do it for a sexual thing or it may depend on the context of the art itself. If I wanted to draw vore for "other reasons" as you put it, then I would had sexual the drawing, not just copy what was in the game or draw a character  swallowing another  

((What poor innocent soul searches for their favorite characters on the internet in 2017? My point is that the stuff appears without warning and is near to being unavoidable.)) Life is not censored, at some point your going to see or hear something you don't like, that's just how things work.

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I don't know why it's ok for you to say people should leave the internet/certain websites because the bad communities' stuff makes them uncomfortable but it's not ok for anyone to say you should keep sexual art within the communities that indulge in it )) I'm saying that it's not ok to try to take away freedom of expression. You have the right to not like something, but you shouldn't try to tell someone what they can or can't draw and post. The more sexual art  is most of the time marked as such
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mCoolmMonkeym Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2017
That was what I was saying about intentions though. If you label your work as fetish art, you are making it for fetish purposes.

Fetish: a form of sexual desire in which gratification is linked to an abnormal degree to a particular object, item of clothing, part of the body, etc.

Sexual: relating to the instincts, physiological processes, and activities connected with physical attraction or intimate physical contact between individuals.

Neither of these definitions mention nudity or sex being a requirement for something to be sexual.
Just because there isn't any nudity or actual sex in fetish art, that doesn't mean it isn't sexual. If people draw stuff like inflation, vore etc because they find it funny, that's not fetish art. It does not matter if fetish people look at it and enjoy it in other ways. It does not matter if the imagery is the same as certain kinds of fetish art. The point is that the artist did not make it for a sexual reason, so it is not fetish art. Please don't try to drag cartoonists and other artists into your community to justify yourself. As a person who draws and likes cartoons I think that's just really gross.

Obviously we can't censor life, but we have the tools for basic censorship right here given to us. We have content filters, so why not use them? Telling people to "get over it because life" is kind of a lazy excuse. Couldn't someone literally just say the exact same thing to you? XD

If people are telling you not to draw it, then you're completely right in saying that. But I'm saying that you can draw it if you want, just don't show it off to everyone and then act all surprised when someone doesn't like it. It's not the same as, for example, drawing a picture of a Digimon character and someone else complained since they didn't like Digimon. Fetish art isn't the same as normal art. It's still art but the intention is completely different and alot of people would hate to be grouped in with fetish artists. It is not mandatory for fetish people to draw their fetish. It is 100% their choice to draw and publicly upload their art.
Also I disagree about that last remark. Most sexual art is not filtered (excluding fetish art since the staff are quite lenient about it), but then again I guess I can't account for everyone.
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TheLittledDemonCat Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2017  Hobbyist
Fetish art is still art and if it not breaking any rules it has a right to be posted here, end of story
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mCoolmMonkeym Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2017
"If people are telling you not to draw it, then you're completely right in saying that. But I'm saying that you can draw it if you want, just don't show it off to everyone and then act all surprised when someone doesn't like it."
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TheLittledDemonCat Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2017  Hobbyist
or people can learn to be respectful and not b**** every time they see something they don't like. Your solution to stop bullying/trolling is to just bend over, given in and do what they want. 

I understand that you don't want to draw that stuff and I will agree that someone shouldn't be bothering you the draw it when you don't, but on the same coin it's bullying/trolling to tell someone who does to stop. I WILL NOT stop posting and given up the friends and my audience I have gain out of it because people don't know how to click away 
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Butterly-Koi Featured By Owner Edited Nov 3, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
I read a journal by someone on here that they hated Cuphead. They admitted that they didn't play the game or watched anyone else play it, they hate it because of the fandom. How ignorant can you be??
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TheLittledDemonCat Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2017  Hobbyist
People are very ignorant, just look at some of the comments on my king Dice art, it's a mix of love and hate. The haters need to realize that they can just  click away from the stuff they don't like and let those who enjoy "the cringy stuff" have their fun 
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Stormourner Featured By Owner Edited Oct 28, 2017
last week some guy on Youtube comments asked everyone to save Cuphead for getting ruined and I find it so pathetic, let's not forget about the people complaining about crossovers, some kids better get out of the internet and I won't blame them because it's their parents who let them browse through the internet
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TheLittledDemonCat Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2017  Hobbyist
 It's so stupid, people think that just because they don't like something, that it ruins what inspired it and other people aren't allowed to enjoy it. Would they rather just let people have their kinky art/stories  (given that they can just click away) or have the internet censored as hell? (take away freedom of expression were you can't upload anything past kindergarten safe)
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Stormourner Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2017
in the past an MLP hater asked the admins of the group to ban any MLP crossovers in the groups and that didn't happened, this MLP hater is fully grown person, another MLP hater asked the artist to kill themselves over the MLP crossover. when Night in the Woods was released there was a person made a journal and said like "I hope the kiddies doesn't ruin Night in the Woods like they did with Undertale", the people should not blame kids over their fandoms
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hungry-cat-mike Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2017
You don't even need fetish art to ruin something:

youtu.be/kEOkYzN-xaA
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TheLittledDemonCat Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2017  Hobbyist
The truth will ruin everything. Well the Milo and Otis thing when I found out about it (long before you shared this video) did ruin that move for me as I'm a huge animal lover 
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hungry-cat-mike Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2017
Though for sick fucks like myself and you, fetish art only ENHANCES childhood.  >:3

As well as all the ROM hacks that allow me to enjoy all of my favorite SNES games.
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LeoMassaFM Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2017
No, I'm not.
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TheLittledDemonCat Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2017  Hobbyist
If you see something fan made and say that it ruins the franchise, yes you are. Like the fan made thing or not it doesn't  change the  franchise that it's based on and if you try telling an  artist to stop drawing something because you don't like it then you're trying to stifle freedom of expression  which puts you in the wrong 
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LeoMassaFM Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2017
I know that not everything fanmade ruins the game, but some other things are just... undescribably bad.
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TheLittledDemonCat Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2017  Hobbyist
Kid nothing you see on the internet will change the game itself. If you can't handle that people have the right to make what you call  "undescribably bad" then you don't need to  on the internet
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LeoMassaFM Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2017
Alright then.
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TheLittledDemonCat Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2017  Hobbyist
I saw, I when on the video just to see if my own art would should up or not 
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LaundrySoapman Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2017
Did it end up on there? And what do you think of that guy?
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TheLittledDemonCat Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2017  Hobbyist
Nothing he showed was mine. I used to hate him for his older videos as they came off as "It's ok to go put people down for what they draw", but surprisingly he didn't come off to me as such a jacka** in this one. It's like there is no longer malice which hey if his videos are more for fun, not malice then I'm ok with it. I do wish he would add audio to his disclaimer at the started of the video, but other than that, he doesn't come off as the jacka** that I remember from his older videos    
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LaundrySoapman Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2017
Oh I see. BTW, I agree with you stamp a bit. I saw Drake and Josh incest stuff but that didn't ruin the show for me.
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TheLittledDemonCat Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2017  Hobbyist
I'm not a fan of incest stuff either, but like you said  that didn't ruin the show for me
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LaundrySoapman Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2017
You like Drake and Josh too?
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NightGlim Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I feel like those people haven't been long enough in the internet. When something becomes popular you expect to see a lot of porn, shipping and other things. 
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SmallestAngel2017 Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2017  Student Artist
You're right I'm totally sick of fandom ruined the games crap.
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Flowering-Yaksha Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ah, thank you for making this.
I've been told that my art "ruined" something for them,
and it's honestly refreshing that someone agrees that the argument is bullshit.

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TheLittledDemonCat Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2017  Hobbyist
You're welcome. I debated about making this as I have already been openly bitter about how people have been acting to my own art which part of me worried that making a stamp on top of it would just make me come off as overliy b****y but then it's like, screw it I'm sure other people feel the same way
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Flowering-Yaksha Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ah, gotcha. 

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