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Okay, so I'm sorry about spamming with all the drama. It wasn't really my intention to make a big deal out of this but my judgement has been clouded by angry, despondent and depressed thoughts as of late.

My fault. Mea maxima culpa.

My intention with what I've written so far and keeping it sparse was because I didn't want to set in stone why I want to give up on the "DangerCat TF-TG Artist Thing." Some part of me was hoping that if I kept it on a downlow, I could just sail this out in silence. But in this wrecked state I am in, I forgot that the people following me were also humans. Humans with concerns, emotions and lives to lead.

So here's a detailed explanation.


Starting off with a definition of the "DangerCat TF-TG Artist Thing."


So there's this thing about internet fame and internet anonymity. I'm sure there's an academic term for it, but I'm gonna call it my "persona-image." DangerCat is just my persona-image, there are things I do in real life that will never affect DangerCat and there are things I do as DangerCat that never affects my real life. Because of the raunchy nature of what I draw and the questions I'd rather not answer to people I meet in my real life, I have to constantly keep a clear line between my persona-image and myself.

That means that some of my favourite pictures online are things I desperately want to show everyone I know in real life, but I just can't. And inversely, I can't act in certain ways online that I'd do in real life, because getting into internet fights is pointless, stressful and damaging to the financial value of my persona-image.

So when I say "I want to end the DangerCat thing," what I mean is that I want to leave this page and start fresh somewhere else. I don't want to stop drawing. I just want to stop drawing as DangerCat.

Okay, but why do I want to do that?


There are more than just a handful of reasons and one of them directly linked to what I wrote above is the stress of having to juggle two identities.

But probably the largest reason is that I'm sick of TF.

I'm sick of drawing it. I'm sick of consuming it. I'm sick of the fans. I'm sick of the artists. I'm sick of writing it. I'm utterly fucking sick and tired of everything surrounding it.

I haven't felt creatively challenged by drawing or writing the subject for almost the entire year, but it was in May that I started to REALLY feel that I absolutely did not want to keep doing this. And that isn't a feeling that just popped up on May 5th and then stuck. No, it's been growing. It's been growing consistently. Starting with just some disinterest in working on sequences and comics. Then budding to feeling bored with other people's TF art. Then continuing to grow into resentment towards my own creations.

But it was not because I felt dissatisfied with the result or I didn't enjoy drawing them. I like drawing. Drawing is one of my favourite things to do. But the reason I've started to hate what I do is because of the limitations of TF.

You have a subject. Then you gotta depict the change of that subject into some new kind of form. Then you have the subject in a new form.

That's TF.

You can fancy it up however you want. You can create deep and wonderful stories with characters that make you laugh and cry. You can make the most gorgeous art for it. But it's the same framework.

You have a subject. Then you gotta depict the change of that subject into some new kind of form. Then you have the subject in a new form.

That framework has killed my creative spark. I have one sequence, one mini-comic and the Neon Comic in the pipeline right now and I DO NOT want to work on them. I don't want to work on anything TF-related (except for two things, but that's for later). I have no creative energy to complete the sequence even though it's been half-done for a week. Same for the mini-comic which is about half-done as well.

And as for Neon, which I was hoping would be my magnum opus, I have two more pages inked and if it wasn't for the awesome visual style, I wouldn't even consider finishing those two pages. But that's probably all that will be done for that comic.

That... hurts...

It hurts that I hate this stuff so much now and it hurts even more that I have to kill off some of those projects in order to prevent even more hurt.

But the whole "sick of TF thing" goes well beyond just what I've written so far. Here's the deal: I love drawing. I've spent too much time doing it and learning about it to just give up. And even though working on the most recent things has been tough, it's also been enjoyable to actually do. The act of drawing is self-rewarding in itself even though what I am drawing is something I now resent. But what I resent more than just the subject that I am drawing is that DangerCat has become an obligation for me.

I draw because I like drawing, but because I am DangerCat, I'm expected to draw TF or cute girls or whatever else is associated with DangerCat. So when I sit down to draw, I have become obligated to draw as DangerCat. That obligation is yet another thing that have burnt up my passion. It's not like I feel like "this is a job and I hate my job." It's that I feel like my freedom to express myself and my desires to grow as an artist are all restricted by the ever-present expectation that what I present has to conform to what DangerCat would normally draw.

DangerCat and I are now more different and separate than we have ever been.

There is a lot, lot more, but when I wrote it down I realized that most of that reflects really poorly on me.


I've realized as a result of doing this for nearly four years, that I have prejudices and expectations that are on a whole unreasonable. Especially since for every nine people that piss me off, there is always that one wonderful artist or fan that light up my day. And as I was writing I figured out that I was painting all ten of you in the same colour.

In short and with less salt, there are people in the TFTG community that are the best ever. But the majority are people I don't have the character strength to deal with anymore. And those people, fans and artists, as a majority have the most power to shape the community and community culture into something I hate.

That's a personal failing of mine though. Most other artists seem to deal with this fine. But I'm not most other artists. And I've tried to work on this for the four years I've run as a TFTG/erotica artist. And I have gotten better, but my frustrations have also gotten stronger. It's an uphill bike ride that have made me better at cycling but at the same time the hill is just getting steeper.

And I'm just so tired of it.

That's why I killed the comment sections.

So if you asked me today what I want to do next, I'd say "kill the DangerCat persona-image."


I don't want to draw TF anymore.

I don't want to deal with the community anymore.

I don't want to juggle two identities that on the whole can't work together anymore.

I started doing this stuff as a college graduate in new town with no prospects. I just knew I wanted to become a better artist because in college I realized that I had wasted so many years not training and studying art properly. Doing art as DangerCat has taught me so much and I'm happy and thankful for the opportunity of doing that. But the personal cost of acting as DangerCat isn't worth the diminishing opportunities to grow as an artist at this point.

I feel satisfied with my current skill level. Just two years ago I'd never say I was a "good artist," but today I know that I'm a good artist, because my art is good and I know I'm improving because I know what held me back.

I won't quit drawing. But I might quit DangerCat. 

I still enjoy working on the Gateworld with Pen and the TF elements in that are so distant for us that it doesn't really matter. And then there is a new comic project that also has a few scant bits of TF, but they're not integral.

And even if I do quit DangerCat, I'd start something new, somewhere else and I'd probably invite you all to follow it.

But I'm gonna give it until August 17th until I make my final decision.

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unorginalUsername's avatar
unorginalUsernameHobbyist General Artist
I know the feeling; there's a real mixed crowd among fans of this sorta thing, to put it lightly. Best of luck to you, for whichever path you choose!
TheDangerCat's avatar
Any community has bad apples. But for smut art communities in particular, there's a prevailing air of "the fans/consumers are always right" that has worn me down. Not that many people actually tell me to draw what they want for no compensation, but I still see that kind of attitude be thrown at other artists more than I care to.

The community is not be out to get me personally, but being apart of it like this still has an effect on me.
Nimeyal's avatar
NimeyalHobbyist Writer
I don`t know if should comment here because my english isn`t the best and i don`t see myself as an artist. But i  recognize if someone have a critical burnout. Because i have personal experiences about.

It`s always hard when people puts a label on an artists. Getting a new artist name with a new account will be helpful to getting distance of it. But you should only note a handful people about your other nickname/account.

But every illustrator has his own specific style who he/she draw things. That means you can running away and left the past behind your but through your personal art style will people always recognize you.

You need more rest and get more time for yourself. You mustn`t stop drawing in this time but it could helpful if you busy with other things who you have maybe neglected in the past..

I wish you the best.
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Wrenzephyr2Professional Digital Artist
That's all fair. Honestly, I recognize a lot of those feelings your describing all too well and have fought with similar ideas. Whatever you decide on doing, I know you'll still be making awesome art and I'll still want to support your work any way I can.
Stingra's avatar
My suggestion? Just walk away. Take a long break from art, DA, just go on a vacation as best you can and clear your head. If you decide to come back? Don't interact with the community, just draw the TG stuff that /you/ want to draw, should you feel like drawing it. I enjoy it, your comics and sequences are extremely high quality, they creative, and most importantly for me, they're /clean/. So much TG/TF art is just smut and I have no interest in it.

All that being said, you do what you feel you need to do. Your art is great no matter what, you have an incredible gift that I personally wish I had instead of being confined to the clumsy medium of words and a highly outdated modelling program. Never stop drawing, no matter the subject.
TheDangerCat's avatar
But I don't want to draw TG stuff...
Stingra's avatar
Then it'll be a loss to those of us that like quality non-smut TG/TF art, but you do what you have to do.
SomariaMoon's avatar
I started watching you sometime mid Jan of this year and this is probably the first time I have commented on anything of yours. This is true for a lot of the artists I follow.

While I initially came for the TG/TF I stayed for your art style. I'm not very good at articulating myself sometimes so I can't really put into words what I like about it but I do think artists should always do what they would prefer to do. I know they sometimes can't due to needing money but I always want them to be able to.

So I guess what I am trying to say is do what you want to do, and the people that you would probably want to stick around will while the ones you don't will leave. Wherever you go, I will probably follow and I am sure a large number of others will too. And should you ever need some quick money and open single image commissions, hopefully I will be able to help :P
Irradiated-Imp's avatar
Irradiated-ImpStudent Traditional Artist
Understandable. If/When you quite DangerCat, definitely let us know about your new account. I'd be interested in seeing what you do, regardless of whether or not it's erotica related.
Cadell001's avatar
People change and grow, I'm having similar frustrations with the LARP community that I'm currently involved in, where I've been feeling obligated to keep putting in effort and time to the community for little gain. I love your style, and while I'll be sad if you move on to greener pastures, it would certainly be understandable.

Heck, before I started transition, TG art was a much stronger obsession, as I got a better hold of myself, and actually started seeing the results of HRT, my interest in TG transformation art nearly evaporated completely. Obviously I'm still lurking around, watching various artists, but my point is, things can change, even when they initially feel integral to who you are. I say go with your gut. You can always come back if you miss it.
TheDangerCat's avatar
Yeah, things can definitely change. And that's how we got to this point. I changed.

But I still want to give it a chance, so until August 17!
Cadell001's avatar
Well good luck. I hope that you are able to come back to the community with fresh eyes, and thanks for the explanation.
Uncle-Ben's avatar
... When I saw the post(?) months ago about being sick and tired of Camboria, I was wondering if something like this was happening. I never imagined this scale. It doesn't surprise me, though.

I'll admit. When I first started following you it was because of the TG and TF. I still enjoy your spin on these as they inspire me. However, I don't associate you as a TGTF artist. To me, you are the cool guy that makes cool art that has the DangerCat drawing style. I mean, I commissioned to you to draw flowers for me.

I agree with you and the rest. It's time to fill up yourself with the things you like to draw. Let me know where you'll be drawing.
TheDangerCat's avatar
Well, I solved the Camboria problem. And I'm giving the TF stuff another 46 days to entice me again so there's that. I'll put up where I disappear to when it comes to that though.
TF-Wizard's avatar
Thank you for being so up front and in the open about this. I'm definitely sad to hear this news, but I want to say that I'm glad you were able to come to this decision, and that I think you should pursue whatever makes you happiest and most fulfilled as an artist. I am also very sad to hear that there are elements of this community that have influenced this decision. I can't say that I entirely disagree with you though. There are definitely some elements of the community that I myself have been tired of for a while, which perhaps is why I gave up on greater community stuff a while ago. In addition there are some definite limitations to the format, and although I enjoy transformation hugely as a plot element it can get tiring. I suppose the fact that I haven't written a TF story in, well, years might be a testament to that. Still, I have always enjoyed your art and watching you evolve as an artist. I imagine that I will continue to do so. Even if it involves me looking for your work under a new name.

I can also sympathize with the whole matter of dual identities. I feel much the same way when it comes to any of my TF/Erotica related efforts and, well, anything else I do online or in life. I hope that you can move to something that fits you better, and brings you the enjoyment you had with art once again. Also, if I was one of the people who ever bothered or harassed you, or even unwittingly embodied the issues you speak of, I am sorry for that. I wish you all the best in your creative and other efforts, and hope that you have the same success there that you had here.

I wish that there was more I can offer you than well wishes and prayers, but I will provide them all the same. And who knows. Maybe in the future that will change and I can do a little more. Although it sounds perhaps a little gouache and selfish, and I apologize for that, I also want to thank you for all of the commissions you've done for me in the past as Danger-Cat. You have always done an incredible job, and brought my ideas to life in ways that I could never actualize. I am neither artistically skilled nor artistically literate, and having these things created is always a magical experience to me. For that I thank you. I also want to thank you for the fun discussions and such we've had on streams and other places. 

But anyway, this has perhaps gone on a bit too long. Besides, this isn't a 'farewell', but more of a 'until we meet again!' I hope to see you soon, and that you'll continue being the awesome artist I know you are, no matter what form that takes.

Thank you very much.

I you ever wish to chat about anything, feel free to reach me at:

CaesarCV in Telegram, Discord, Steam, gmail, or anywhere else really. I'd consider it my (albeit with very little impact) other internet persona.

TheDangerCat's avatar
Thank you for the nice words. It's been great working for/with you through the years :)

I hope you can find some peace with your additional identity too.

And as soon as I figure out whether to keep it up or migrate somewhere else, I'll inform everyone of where I make my new home :)
TF-Wizard's avatar
Thank you for the kind words as well! And I look forward to hearing back from you in the future. Good luck.
theflame234's avatar
This is why sticking to one piece of content is a bad idea and why variety is needed. You end up getting burnt out on it and start to hate it.
I can understand your decision on this, but I do hope that you don't walk away from TF/TG forever because of this. As I and many others have very much enjoyed your work.
TheDangerCat's avatar
Eh, who knows if it'll be forever. There's that comic project I mentioned that will have at least three instances of TF but the comic isn't about TF. And I will still work on the Gateworld with a friend of mine.
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RBL-M1A2TankerHobbyist General Artist
Well, those are some solid reasons and explanations.  Makes perfect sense.  Also can't disagree with the explanation of the framework.  Much fun as the whole transformation thing is, and it certainly can be, boiling it down like that is 100% accurate.  As is the depiction of a lot of the community/fandom/etc. 

You really do have to balance things out, and if the personas are at odds with each other now, it's probably not going to change.  I mean, I certainly wouldn't want this page to close down cause it's awesome art, but if it's causing you mental or emotional anguish, then you have to do whatcha have to do.  

On the plus side, perhaps that means I could hit you up for something that's not TF based as a change of pace (which is normally what I do anyway), should you be available for commission stuff, either here or on a new page.  :D
TheDangerCat's avatar
Yup. That's about it really.
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RBL-M1A2TankerHobbyist General Artist
Well, we'll see what comes!
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