The Great Premade Clean Out is Underway!

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Hiya Darlings,

So we're at that time of year when we put aside the old year and ring in the new. The same goes with our premade background folder. I am about to begin cleaning out and removing any premade backgrounds that are not properly credited or uses stock from outside websites. I'm sorry that if your premade gets removed and you're offended. I don't intend it as a slight, but this group will not provide illegitimate resources. If you'll remember, I gave fair warning about this clean out, and an opportunity to remove it beforehand, in August.

This will be a two part clean up. Over the next few weeks, I will begin the same with the pre-cut stocks. I will be removing any cut out images that were found on google etc. All pre-cut images must be from your own resources. You should be able to verify this with the original image.

This group will adhere to all dA terms and guidelines regarding stock. It is my mission both as a stock provider and as the founder of this group to provide safe and legitimate resources for our fellow artists to use in their work. It is unfair to the artist to share a 'stock' image that is not a valid resource. The artists can make a fantastic, DD worthy piece of art, and have it rejected for the feature because they used stock that wasn't legitimate. It makes the stock provider who uploads it look bad, and it makes the group who accepts it look bad. We will not be that group.

Important Articles:

Premade Backgrounds and Group Submission ChangesToday we’re going to address the “Circle of Stock.” Cue Disney’s “The Lion King” theme song and call me Mufasa. Just like in the circle of life, what we do affects another group, and returns to affect us again. We have a responsibility to the artists that use our stock to provide legitimate and safe stock resources. As an administrator for a few art groups as well as stock groups, I have seen what happens to the artists who use invalid stock resources. They have had their art declined, or had to replace stock elements through no fault of their own.  This especially includes those who includes celebrity or otherwise copyrighted material, even if it was uploaded to the Resources and Stocks section of :devart:. It isn’t fair to the artists who use the “stock” and hurts the credibility of not only the stock provider who uploads it, but the stock community itself.
Premade backgrounds have always seemed to be flo
    I declined 2 photomanip suggestions today aloneNOTE: I am talking about premades and cut-outs here, not ALL stock. And, not all premades and cut-outs are "bad." Just be careful!
I declined 2 photomanip DD suggestions today because the artists used stock (1 used a premade background and 1 used a cut-out psd file) from stock artists who did not say where their original sources came from.
These were really good suggestions, too, from amazing artists who truly deserve DDs. One of them has never had a DD before.
What am I ranting about now?
As an example, let's say you use an ivy psd file for your work. You need to know that the stock artist himself/herself took the picture of the ivy or that it comes from another legitimate source. Too many people pull images off of Google and cut them out to make "psd stock." So, if the stock artist doesn't say where they got the picture they used from, I would recommend not using it.
Likewise, a lot of people take stock pictures from or purchase them from dreamstime or shutt
    How and Why To Credit Your Stock ProvidersHiya Darlings,
Today I am going to tackle a subject that all photo manipulation artists should pay attention to. (Yes, this means you!) It is my hope that this article will save you the headache and trouble of getting a submission declined, having to delete your work, or worse; be sued by someone because of it.
Why Properly Crediting Stock Is Important
All artists know that the secret to a great manip is finding stock that is just right for the theme you are trying to convey. On :devart: there are literally thousands of fantastic high quality images that are absolutely free. Some of these images are even created by and featuring professional models and photographers.  You could pay a lot of money for the rights to use the type of stock resources in your art that are found here free of charge. This is part of why  :devart: is unique and an amazing place for artists to frequent.  
You’ll find that a lot of art groups, including :iconmanip
    Stock Providers! We have been listening!Your concerns about the state of our gallery...
Are the things that concern us all, I hope with the updates and clarifications to our FAQ specific to stock and resources, plus an official reminder of the stock and resources policies here --->

Will help to refute the rumours going around that staff and volunteers don't care about the "non-stock" being posted in our gallery.
I am here to tell you with absolute certainty that we DO care A LOT!!!!! Getting things like this into action to start resolving some of the far reaching issues we face as an integral part of the wider DA community takes time, but still doesn't mean your concerns are being ignored.
We will be working very VERY VERY hard to make a significant impact on the huge amount of "celeb stock" and "renders" (that aren't actually renders :roll: ) and all the other "stuff" thats being submitted to stock and resources.
Its not going to get better over night.
    Of Copyright + Premades

Disclaimer: I'm no lawyer, I do not work for deviantArt, I'm merely someone who has been doing photomanips for quite a while and has taken the time to read quite a few articles on the topic. The views expressed hereunder are mine alone. They do not reflect any "official dA opinion" nor are they to be taken as "legal advice". Furthermore, you may live in a country that hasn't signed any of the treaties that govern international copyright law, so you'd have to check with your country's national laws.
I strongly urge you to not only read the journal, but also the comments underneath it as there are a lot more examples of what you can and can't do as well as more links to information being shared by your fellow deviants!
What is Copyright?
I'll paraphrase/quote the wikipedia article on the topic for this:
"Copyright is a legal concept, enacted by most governments, giving the creator of an original work exclus
    Problems with Stock ResourcesLock, Stock, and Barrel
It unfortunately appears that it is once again time to talk about proper stock resources again. I'll be addressing this in this week's CEA Update but I wanted to discuss it a bit informally here first.
I have a hope that some day the issue of stock resources will get straightened out because it really is not as complicated or as confusing as many people are currently forcing it to be, but I guess the nature of the internet pushes people to simply pull the old smash and grab.
I'm going to run down a brief listing of the various problems and pit falls currently affecting the issue of stock resources in general.
The Old Switcheroo
Now we all know there are a good number of legitimate, legal stock resource sites out there with some being free and some being pay sites. A good chunk of you all can name them off the top of your head so I won't bother to list them myself.
Now regardless of which one we might be taking about, they all share pretty much a common ru
    Project Educate Stock and Resources DD CriteriaStock & Resources Daily Deviations.  What We look for, and what you should look for as well!
Its a regular question, and something that the other Community Volunteers get asked about as well. So during Project Educate Stock & Resources week I'm going to try and lay out some of the reasons behind our choices.
Stock & Resources Daily Deviations, and how they are judged by the Community.
Dan has already touched on this touchy subject in his "Potential" Article here - The Potential of Stock
There is something fundamentally different about stock & resources DD's compared to all the other DD's from all the other galleries.
Stock & Resources are NOT finished artworks to be viewed as an end product.
We can't stress this enough!!! 
 The Stock Artist/Provider/Creator has not submitted this work becasue they think its absolutely perfect and they want to show it off, they subm
    PE S and R Sourcing Your ResourcesSourcing Your Resources
You may think that the creation and sharing of stock and resources is a no brainer.  Clearly however its not, and there are a growing number of deviants who for some reason or another seem to not be able to grasp the basic principles.
As the last article we will be launching for Stock & Resources Project Educate week, we are going to attempt to lay it out for you in clear and easy to understand terms.
What YOU own
The gallery details for stock and resources read:
Gallery Info: Resources & Stock Images
Resources submitted by deviants for others to use in their own works and/or learn from.
Gallery Info: Stock Images
Stock Photography which the provider has granted a licence for incorporation into other Deviant artists work.
By submitting work into the stock and resources galleries, be they a photograph of your cat, a pack of brushes you have created, a texture you have developed, or a tutorial you've spent weeks resea
    Stock and Resources: Policy ClarificationThe Stock and Resources community is an integral part of deviantART, both for having an active community of its own as well as providing high quality stock to all deviants. 
As this community has grown so much over the years, so has the amount of invalid stock and resources that have been provided by some deviants. The Stock and Resources community feels like this reflects negatively on them, the volunteers have a hard time trying to teach people about valid stock and how to use it correctly, and it gives an appearance that deviantART Staff tolerate so-called “art theft” or copyright infringement.
In this article our aim is to reinforce our policies regarding stock and stock use and clear up some misconceptions.
Stock and Resource submissions to deviantART:
What are Invalid Stock and Resources?
In short, invalid stock or resources are anything which you do not have full permission to upload. This incl

If You are New to Stock

Please take a moment to review the information provided in our gallery folder:

Learning Resources for Stock Artists

dA Stock Guidelines

Learn it. Love it. Live it.

FAQ #809: What are DeviantArt's stock image guidelines?

FAQ #217: What are "Stock and Resources" and can I use them in my submissions?

FAQ #257: What sort of permission do I need to use someone else's work?

FAQ #193: How do I prove that I had permission to use someone's work?

FAQ #157: Can I use things created by other people in my submissions?

FAQ #792: As a stock art resource provider, how can I be of help in regards of stock art resource usage in prints?

FAQ #306: Does "Crediting" let me use whatever I want?

If you have Questions:

If you have questions about group policy, please feel free to send me a note.

If you have questions about official :devart: Stock Guidelines, please refer to our Resources & Stock Community Volunteers:

Elandria     PirateLotus-Stock

Congrats to PirateLotus-Stock on becoming the newest Stock CV by the way!! :squee: That's about it for now. I hope you all had a wonderful Christmas/Holiday season!


- Cheryl
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BloodMoonEquinox's avatar
That's great! :D I've come across several really nice premades that unfortunately used invalid stock. :hmm: (don't worry, I didn't see them in this group! ;))

Good on you for doing the same with the precut stock--I often have the problem of finding some really cool and convenient precut stock that looks suspiciously like it's been taken from Google.

Anyway, you do a great job with this group! :happybounce: Keep it up! :thumbsup:
CelticStrm-Stock's avatar
I saw several so far in the group. :sniff: They were absolutely beautiful. I'm going to take a second pass through the gallery to make sure I got them all. When I started out there were 14 pages of premades and now it's down to 11 pages. I'm thinking about requiring credits on all premade stock too, at the very least having it state that it is their own image in the comments. I've seen a lot of precuts that were swiped from online retailers, especially when it comes to the clothing precuts and that's a problem.
BloodMoonEquinox's avatar
I think that deviantART requires credit on all premades as part of the rules, or at least stating if the images used are their own. Or at least, those are the rules at #ManipulateThis. :D

It's especially hard to find legitimate clothing resources, which is a pity since long ballgown stock is always in high demand! :XD: Today I found ~Vixen1978 who has some legitimate dress stock that's just lovely!
EveLivesey's avatar
For cutout stock - often I haven't posted the original photo anywhere - but obviously if anyone asked I could provide it - so is it just enough to say it's my photo? And with premades if we use a public domain photos is this okay (all rights are relinquished on Public Domain) ?
CelticStrm-Stock's avatar
It's just enough to say that it's your photo. :) I just keep a copy of the original on my external hard drive if I don't upload it to my gallery. :D I think public domain photos are ok for premade backgrounds too. :)
CelticStrm-Stock's avatar
>.< For the love of all things stock! I've had to remove some gorgeous premades and I REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO! They HAVE to be credited, even if it's your own resources. :sniff:
Thy-Darkest-Hour's avatar
What about the legitimate resources found outside of dA that are allowed to be used in this manner and are credited with appropriate direct links back to the stock itself?
CelticStrm-Stock's avatar
If it doesn't violate the redistribution terms of that site, my guess would be that it's probably ok. I can ask to double check though. :)
Thy-Darkest-Hour's avatar
I wanted to make sure and to throw out this image as an example: [link] :D
PirateLotus-Stock's avatar
This is great, thank you :heart: I think it's going to be a lot of work and I'm glad you're willing to do it ^.^ If you need anything, just shoot me a note!
CelticStrm-Stock's avatar
:glomp: You're welcome! Hehe this shouldn't be too bad. It's not nearly as bad as when I went through and removed everything not listed in the Resources & Stock section from all the folders. That took 8 hours.. lol I vetoed the auto-approval on the submissions after that one. :D lol I do have a question though that =Thy-Darkest-Hour mentioned in a comment on this journal. What is your opinion of using stocks from other websites that do allow for manipulation/redistribution (i.e. public domain, etc.) for making premades? Personally I stick strictly to dA sources, but I know there are others who use outside sources too.
PirateLotus-Stock's avatar
Ah yeah, I never allow auto-approval XD People will abuse it D:

As long as the other sites allow that sort of thing, it's fine. I personally wouldn't use them because of all the complications with it that I just wouldn't want to deal with, but if someone finds something that allows for redistribution like that, then they have the right to do it. I know that says they do not allow it, so if you see anything from there, it's a big no no.
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