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The CreepyPasta Wiki is now a complete shithole, and LOLSKELETONS and his pack of sycophantic admins are officially the self-proclaimed kings of shit.

Let's see, over the past couple months, they've (mostly LOLSKELETONS) deleted numerous pastas because they didn't meet their standards, including DeluCat's Bloody Painter, and Leafcrowns's Clockwork pastas [the latter of which was justified by declaring Clockwork a Jeff ripoff]. Not even the older pastas were safe, either getting shunted over to the dungheap called trollpasta (which they don't even FUCKING LINK TO ON THE CP WIKI) in the case of Sonic.exe, or in the case of Happy Appy, deleted outright. And apparently they've kicked Jeff the Killer vs. Slenderman down to the Spinpasta Wiki as well.

And now LOLSKELETONS has gone and done it again. This time they deleted TheLadyBlackWolf' Jane the Killer (the original Jane the Killer pasta) from the wiki. To add insult to injury, PastaStalker64's knock-off prequel version of Jane the Killer, "Jane the Killer: the Real Story", is still on the wiki.
WHAT. THE. ACTUAL. FUCK.

Why the hell would you delete Jane's original pasta, but keep the knock-off (if well-intentioned) pasta "The Real Story", which just creates confusion between when they read/hear (the noncanon) Jeff the Killer vs. Jane the Killer? Either both should stay up, or both should go down!

Ugh... I swear, the admins of that wiki have lost their goddamn minds. I won't be surprised if those perfectionist jackasses end up deleting Ticci Toby's and Laughing Jack's pastas without explanation. It's just how those self-righteous moron roll these days.

Seriously, spread the word about the outrageous shenanigans by the admins.
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Prawnty's avatar
Do you know what self-proclaimed means?
ednoahjones's avatar
stop getting mad
jasperulilshit's avatar
stop commenting this on every fucking journal about him
ednoahjones's avatar
stop getting mad
ChaoticTempleKnight's avatar

I think it's dumb that they are deleting these pastas. My question is "What is the big deal?" So what if a pasta is based off another or it sounds like a different genre of pasta? A creepypasta is a creepypasta, plain and simple.

 

You won't see me removing pasta's at my group. I welcome all pasta's.

MasterPhantasos's avatar
Uh, it's been like that for awhile. And I feel bad for you if you're that upset about actual quality control, considering that all of the pastas listed are probably completely terrible. I'm legitimately curious as to what enrages you so much about a bunch of internet nonsense and what makes it worthy of flipping out over, say, actual injustice. I have a feeling I won't get much of an answer, if one at all.
The-Metal-Maniac's avatar
"...considering that all of the pastas listed are probably completely terrible." 

Does the phrase "don't judge a book by it's cover" mean anything to you? Seriously, it's kinda stupid to assert that a person's work is terrible just because an admin deleted it.

And sorry, but I have to call bullshit on "actual quality control", for two reasons. 

First, nothing created in this world exists in a vacuum (we're all influenced by something or other to a certain extent, even if we don't realize it), so attempting to force people to be original with their CreepyPastas by having rules that are overly broad only stifles the creativity that this community thrives on and keeps it from going stale/dying off. The biggest offender I've seen so far is their "spinoff/Jeff-inspired stories" rule, which can, in theory, cover most of the original characters in the Pasta genre who have a human background. Case in point, Clockwork's pasta was deleted because an admin decided that it was a "Jeff-inspired" story, when it had been up there for a long time with no complaints whatsoever. 

Secondly, they don't apply the rules equally. As I mentioned in the journal, they deleted the original Jane the Killer pasta, yet for some reason left up the knock-off "Jane the Killer: The Real Story". Now, if we apply their "anti-Jeff-inspired story/Jeff formula" rule to both pastas, obviously they both would be in violation of that rule. However, in terms of which story is the bigger offender, "Jane the Killer: The Real Story" takes the cake because it inserts Jane Arkensaw into the storyline of the original Jeff the Killer creepypasta, which is pretty much Mary Sue standard operating procedure. 

So why the hell is one pasta, which is a clearly a Mary-Sue story/borderline self-insert story, still up on the wiki, while the original pasta gets deleted without explanation? 

As for being 'enraged about a bunch of internet nonsense" over 'actual injustice', that's a red herring and irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
MasterPhantasos's avatar
>Does the phrase “don’t judge a book by it’s cover” mean anything to you? Seriously, it’s kinda stupid to assert that a person’s work is terrible just because an admin deleted it.

I didn’t assert that they did, merely said they probably were terrible enough to get deleted. Can't you read? It's right there. Having experience in the deletion process, I also have good reason to believe the deletions were totally justified anyhow. 

>attempting to force people to be original with their CreepyPastas by having rules that are overly broad only stifles the creativity that this community thrives on and keeps it from going stale/dying off. 

Problem is, that’s not at all what’s happening, or at least in a not-insignificant number of cases. There’s no creativity whatsoever for so many of the stories being uploaded- literally you got loads of “xyz the Killer” or yet another Slenderman/BEN story/sequel, which is why it was created in the first place. Also, considering the vast number of horrible stories remaining on the site, it's not like they're very good at being "perfectionists".

>The biggest offender I've seen so far is their "spinoff/Jeff-inspired stories" rule, which can, in theory, cover most of the original characters in the Pasta genre who have a human background.

It only works in theory if they're obviously part of either and the majority are of those. But more importantly: If you're inspired by a story as awful as Jeff the Killer or aim to write a spinoff (important: of a popular story that presumably has been done to death), what does that say? What can be predicted about its quality?

As mentioned, these stories were almost invariably trash and the psyop number was too limited to handle the weekly influx on a site that from what I understand has had MILLIONS of viewers and god knows how many posters.

>Case in point, Clockwork’s pasta was deleted because an admin decided that it was a “Jeff-inspired” story, when it had been up there for a long time with no complaints whatsoever. 

Of course it had been, because there’s too many pastas for such a small psyop base to check (assistance from the userbase isn't as common as one would hope) and because Jeff-inspired stories weren’t in the crosshairs as much as now, if ever. Skelly's initiative doesn't seem to be particularly new by itself; I recall various other deletion waves going on before this. The only difference is that lots of loud and stupid people have gotten their feefees hurt.

>So why the hell is one pasta, which is a clearly a Mary-Sue story/borderline self-insert story, still up on the wiki, while the original pasta gets deleted without explanation? 

Not sure about the explanation part (though I imagine it's because it sucked an awful lot). As for the inconsistency- because they're idiots. Doesn't prevent the deletion of shitty stories from being quality control. I can't believe I have to explain this.

>As for being 'enraged about a bunch of internet nonsense" over 'actual injustice', that's a red herring and irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

Hardly. Your blogpost was not only largely wrong, it was about a matter that's not even worthy of getting so furious about. Like I said, there's actual injustice out there that needs to be brought to attention (you should know about at least SOME). Even if it actually did distract from the topic, ask yourself this: given how things have turned out, is keeping yourself on this dumb focus post's message really so vital? Is the 'distraction' really such a bad idea?
The-Metal-Maniac's avatar
Guess what: if I were going to write about 'actual injustices', I'd write about them in another journal. However, those 'injustices' are not important to the general Creepypasta community. An admin that, in the eyes of a large portion of the community[or as you refer to them in an ad hominem-style fashion, "loud and stupid people"], is on a power trip, deleting pastas on a whim for no apparent reason other than "because I said so", is important. So yeah, my journal entry's completely valid, thank you very much. 

Although now that I think about it, trying to explain myself to you is like trying to explain things to a brick wall, because apparently you believe your interpretation of what makes a good Creepypasta is the one true viewpoint on the whole matter, and anyone who thinks differently is, to quote you from Requiem-of-Ice's journal entry when Sonic.exe got booted overto that repugnant excuse for a wiki, Trollpasta, "completely fucking stupid." 

Here's a friendly reminder: people will have different views than you on what 'quality control' is. To act like they're butthurt idiots is, to be frank, arrogant, and insulting them makes you look like a self-important jackass.

In other words, yes, this post's message is vital, despite your opinion (which you're perfectly entitled to have. Just don't expect everyone to agree with it).
MasterPhantasos's avatar

>Guess what: if I were going to write about ‘actual injustices’, I’d write about them in another journal. However, those ‘injustices’ are not important to the general Creepypasta community.

So you're continuing to stick to defending a mostly-wrong topic for community that is incredibly self-centered and heartless enough to not care about injustice, and is supposed to be comprised of people who are solely unjustifiably upset about Skeleton's baleetion (aka, the Sonic.EXE fandom), according to you. Try rephrasing or see if you can impress me more. THE POWER IS YOURS~

>An admin that, in the eyes of a large portion of the community[or as you refer to them in an ad hominem-style fashion, “loud and stupid people”],

It's actually not ad hominem style at all. To be ad hominem, it would have to be an attack on their character or traits to undermine an argument and completely irrelevant. Since my argument involves you and others acting like idiots (the whole point is your almost impossibly horrific misinterpretation of the events)it isn't off topic to declare all of you idiots. It is however an insult, but see below.

>is on a power trip, deleting pastas on a whim for no apparent reason other than “because I said so”, is important. So yeah, my journal entry’s completely valid, thank you very much. 

It was already explained why those pastas were deleted. If you really have that much of an issue with them you should... oh, I don't know, stop posting here for a moment and actually ask them as to why and use your debating skills and intelligence (You do have some, right?) to get that to change. If you don't succeed, at least you tried, I suppose. You clearly cared enough to post some comment on ImGonnaBeThatGuy's thread, so you don't have much of an excuse. Do you have a hateboner for me or something?

>Although now that I think about it, trying to explain myself to you is like trying to explain things to a brick wall,

That applies more to you. Sorry.

>because apparently you believe your interpretation of what makes a good Creepypasta is the one true viewpoint on the whole matter, and anyone who thinks differently is, to quote you from Requiem-of-Ice’s journal entry when Sonic.exe got booted overto that repugnant excuse for a wiki, Trollpasta, “completely fucking stupid.” 

Hahaha what?? It was invective and obviously only directed to the people flipping out over a story being transferred (OH THE HUMANITY) to see if they'd make further asses out of themselves, but since you and quite literally every single defender of Sonic.EXE that I've seen are apparently idiots who could not make a convincing argument for preserving it for your lives, there seems to be truth to that after all! Keep it up.

>Here’s a friendly reminder: people will have different views than you on what ‘quality control’ is. To act like they’re butthurt idiots is, to be frank, arrogant, and insulting them makes you look like a self-important jackass.

Orrrr maybe you have yet to prove it isn't quality control. Do you have different views on where the Amazon Rainforest is located? and the people who were whining over it and, surprise surprise, were the only ones I'm really against on this matter, ARE butthurt idiots. Can you honestly even for a moment pretend that someone crying bloody murder and talking about retribution over A STORY BEING DELETED AND TRANSFERRED is not seriously hurt and an idiot? I even have a collection of their greatest shits in case you somehow missed out on their asshattery and seriously want evidence that they're bad... which I SOMEHOW doubt. Please keep associating yourself with cretins!

Have you even seen the creator’s reaction: www.furaffinity.net/journal/54…

He is the epitome of rational discussion and reactions. His fans are the same way. I, for one, am not surprised at all that they have behaved in this manner, considering the personalities seem pretty similar. Like attract like, especially when the quality is so absurdly low and limited to a few audiences (if even that)? Who could have imagined?! :ooooooo

Tycholarfero's avatar
Except it's completely reasonable. I don't think the best course of action would be to respond with unbridled rage. Jesus, calm down, the other story will be removed without hassle. It's a spinoff anyway. Also, be glad. Every story they've removed so far was shit. Sonic.Exe, Jane, and all those other really terrible ones. Hell, they might be posted on TP or somewhere else, don't get your panties in a crutch, people who post there don't even make money or change lives off their work.
The-Metal-Maniac's avatar
:iconfacepalmplz:

Looks I have to repeat myself. People have different standards for what makes a good Creepypasta. You think all the ones they've removed are shit. I (along with several others) have a different opinion on the matter. 

The fact of the matter is, quite a few of the pastas delete/moved are treated as part of the core 'CreepyPasta lore' by a lot of people (shoddy writing be damned in Sonic.exe's case). To call the site "CreepyPasta Wiki" and then go around deleting a bunch of the older Creepypastas that a lot of newcomers first hear about when they start getting into CreepyPasta based on some self-righteous, creativity-stifling "quality standards", kinda invalidates the whole idea of the site being the CreepyPasta Wiki.  

As for whether or not they've been moved to Trollpasta, please don't insult my intelligence. Frankly, I'd rather have a story deleted completely than punted over to Trollpasta, where they shit on it just because they can. Hell, you'd probably get more respect from the folks who maintain/comment over on Crappypasta than what the admins on the Wiki are doing to pastas they move over there. Perhaps that's why they don't link to Trollpasta from the main CP wiki site (that and the annoying-as-fuck image they've got plastered all over the background).

>"people who post there don't even make money or change lives off their work."

...You're point is what exactly?
ObsoleteGoat's avatar
well this person is an ass hold. clearly a CP fascists, 
MediatorIridescent's avatar
I swear to God I do not want to have anything to do with that website. I might have before BUT I don't want to now that's for sure.
Requiem-of-Ice's avatar
Don't worry, a counter-measure has been employed.
pncke's avatar
counter-measure?
i must know

we have to create a safe haven for cp's who are actually fucking good
Requiem-of-Ice's avatar
It's called the Creepypasta Land Wiki; it's what AngryDog made.
pncke's avatar
you should send me this, creepypasta land wiki
i'm re-doing sadie's story still and i would love a decent place to post it

if people who don't ridicule and bash or treat others unfairly
The-Metal-Maniac's avatar
Yeah, I heard about what AngryDogs is doing. Very thankful for that.

And honestly, as much as I dislike Arkensaw's story, I just copied the pasta to a word doc in case LOLSKELETONS decides to delete that one too. If nothing else, the damn thing's got some legacy value to it, and should get the same respect as Happy Appy/Sonic.exe because of that fact.
Username353's avatar
(Random, but I happen to be an admin over at Creepypasta Land and can help you out if you have any questions)

But I'm really upset over this too! I knew some people were having trouble with LOLSKELETONS, but deleting things like Happy Appy? Sonic.exe?

Dude, please tell me this is all just a nightmare...
The-Metal-Maniac's avatar
Honestly, I understand the desire for quality from the CP Wiki. But LOLSKELETONS' actions are just beyond absurd.

[As for submitting "Jane the Killer: The Real Story", looks like LOLSKELETONS finally got around to deleting that one, and kicked Jeff the Killer vs Jane the Killer down to Spinpasta Wiki (as of Monday anyway). 

I kinda want to submit 'Jane the Killer: TRS' to Creepypasta Land (if only because , but doubt AngryDog would allow it since he loathes Jane Arkensaw so much (or at least not without a disclaimer at the top stating that the pasta is a fan-prequel/should be treated as a separate character from the original Jane the Killer)].
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