Foci with Zy0rg chatlog - Part 1

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So, below, we got a not so short log of zy0rg explaining to me and depaz about how to use foci.

Foci FX in Apophysis - Part 1


Just so you have an idea about what is being made, the result go first =D

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04:32:18 PM
<zy0rg>
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04:32:37 PM <zy0rg> no foci yet
04:32:49 PM <zy0rg> only the gasket
04:35:03 PM <zy0rg> planning to use splits/elliptic by the end of that "example"
04:35:51 PM <depaz> zy0rg: I meant... something like [link] ... for example
04:36:54 PM <zy0rg> depaz: and yes, spherical gasket could be used too
04:36:58 PM <depaz> zy0rg: splits/elliptic would be a good example too
04:37:10 PM <depaz> zy0rg: or a julia one
04:37:30 PM <zy0rg> depaz: the julian/bipolar you mean?
04:37:42 PM <zy0rg> but meanwhile we need that "raw" gasket
04:37:56 PM <depaz> zy0rg: the mobius/julian, or curl/julian, or spherical/julian
04:38:11 PM <zy0rg> to make it demonstrative
04:38:41 PM <depaz> zy0rg: okay
04:39:27 PM <zy0rg> also
04:39:44 PM <zy0rg> I'll use unpolar first
04:40:01 PM <zy0rg> they work basically the same with foci
04:40:18 PM <zy0rg> but unpolar id more demonstrative too
04:41:39 PM <zy0rg>
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04:41:58 PM <zy0rg> same as previous flame but with unpolar at final
04:42:42 PM <zy0rg> now we need to rotate the final to fill all the plane
04:43:31 PM <tatasz> zy0rg: how do we calculate the right angle?
04:43:42 PM <depaz> zy0rg: like this? IWOT
04:43:46 PM <zy0rg> that's the most complex part
04:43:46 PM <depaz>
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04:43:58 PM <depaz> zy0rg: I wanna know that too
04:44:09 PM <zy0rg> depaz: yes, like this
04:44:16 PM <zy0rg> but there's some overlapping now
04:45:27 PM <depaz> zy0rg: I'm starting to get it... we need to initially have something distributed inside a line, uniformly
04:45:55 PM <zy0rg>
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04:48:10 PM <zy0rg> depaz: it's pi/2
04:49:42 PM <depaz> zy0rg: uhm... step by step? :(
04:50:29 PM <depaz> zy0rg: I can see 1.5708 there... ok ok
04:51:20 PM <depaz> zy0rg: that's it?
04:53:45 PM <zy0rg>
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04:56:23 PM <zy0rg> depaz: I've scaled polar instead
05:06:43 PM <depaz>
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05:06:49 PM <depaz> zy0rg: would be that correct?
05:07:51 PM <zy0rg> depaz: yes. looks so
05:07:54 PM <zy0rg> but
05:08:16 PM <tatasz> its kinda wavy
05:08:19 PM <tatasz> isnt it?
05:08:27 PM <tatasz> shouldnt be just straight?
05:08:28 PM <depaz> tatasz: :lol:
05:08:34 PM <zy0rg> if you fill the gasket with something...
05:08:39 PM <zy0rg> it'll fall apart
05:09:18 PM <depaz> zy0rg: what do you mean?
05:10:00 PM <zy0rg>
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05:11:43 PM <depaz>
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05:13:11 PM <depaz> zy0rg: better? :confused:
05:14:22 PM <depaz> zy0rg: there are parts still a bit overlappy, just seen them
05:14:31 PM <zy0rg> better
05:14:41 PM <zy0rg> but problem wasn't solved yet
05:14:46 PM <depaz> zy0rg: :nod:
05:14:55 PM <depaz> zy0rg: how-to?
05:15:12 PM <zy0rg> it's because spherical gasket's width is double
05:15:20 PM <zy0rg> compared to the "line" I made
05:16:31 PM <zy0rg> so there are two possible solutions
05:16:34 PM <zy0rg> 1. crop
05:16:44 PM <zy0rg> 2. satanic math
05:28:17 PM
<zy0rg>
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05:29:09 PM <zy0rg> the angle 45% makes it simplest
05:29:27 PM <zy0rg> all the x and y values are pi/6
05:29:28 PM <tatasz> the fx is scaled down i see
05:29:57 PM <zy0rg> and could be pi/3
05:30:18 PM <tatasz> how did you come to these numbers?
05:30:19 PM <zy0rg> or any pi/n value
05:30:30 PM <zy0rg> tatasz: as I said, it's pi/3
05:30:36 PM <zy0rg> er
05:30:37 PM <zy0rg> 6
05:31:26 PM <tatasz> yes i know
05:31:45 PM <tatasz> but thats a bit not obvious to guess
05:31:48 PM <tatasz> pi/n
05:32:25 PM <zy0rg> it's because foci needs tiling as input
05:32:31 PM <tatasz> yes
05:32:41 PM <zy0rg> and this tiling's repetition should be pi


Keep an eye on projecteducate for the Part 2 :eager:





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Thankyou very much for sharing the information, cannot wait to study it in full. I always miss live tutorial sessions because im hopeless at calculating times/zones so thanks again for providing a transcript of your sesh.
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yup... I usually just pop up and pester people to explain me stuff and its how i get the info =D
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Thank you for sharing :iconflowerheartplz:
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Very interesting :love: thanks!
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best thanks is someone making arts out of it =D tip hehe
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Oh man thanks for sharing, will have to give these a try!
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=D got a bunch of saved logs...
Releasing a log of zueuk explaining hypertile tomorrow =D
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Very interesting...I was just playing with some of his parameters last night. :D
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=D his params are usually har to tweak =(
I wish i was that technical
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very hard...thats why I chose the easy one :XD:...will post soon
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