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Doug Winger: Fallen Sparrow (Final)

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EmmetEarwax's avatar
My favoriting this -was NOT approval of his art. I found the concepts revolting, tortured & demonic. Especially Minerva Mink as a mad scientist who was growing hyperherm clones . All were demonically endowed, and one was matured (organs as massive as the rest of her) and awake (also the vat light was on, indicating she-he was ready for release. They were being engineered to conquer the world. 

No, this was favorited to allow quick access to the article.
TaralWayne's avatar
I liked the man, but I did not save is art.
EmmetEarwax's avatar
I am also reminded of S.Clay Wilson, who did a lot of work for underground comics, Mostly pirates and dykes and loonies. All people who I would NOT want in my house, or even in the neighborhood.
One night he was found insensate between 2 parked cars and whether he had been attacked or fell accidentally has never been determined. He was no longer able to care for himself or do a story, just pics of his creepy characters -like the Checkered Demon. He has since deteriorated further and was no longer able to draw pr write coherently. 
TaralWayne's avatar
That was cheerful ... but appropriate.
EmmetEarwax's avatar
I favorited this as a "caveat emptor" 
EmmetEarwax's avatar
I never cared for Winger. His hyper-phallic fantasies were a turn-off to me.

Same for Karno.
TaralWayne's avatar
Doug was a great artist, but, no, I didn't like his art.  He was only interested in sexual content that was borderline "unwholesome" -- yet I know there are people object to my work, so we learn to be tolerant if we don't a Board of Permitted Art telling us what we can do.  The other thing was that Doug was a very smart person, who knew a lot about science, history and people.  Why did Doug chose to, perhaps, squander his gifts on?  I knew him well enough that I think I can say that he was essentially crushed by life, and had not further interests in anything but a roof over his head, a meal on the table and the freedom to do whatever he wanted.  He didn't care about money, popularity, respectability, fame, fancy clothes or dinners.  He just wanted to be left alone with a few friends, and draw what he pleased.
EmmetEarwax's avatar
I hope I don't wind up like Winger.
I am not young as you & others probably think, but ...
I stopped doing cartoon stories almost a quarter century ago. I did text fan-fics until a few years ago.(my last 3 fan-fics showed my decline and my peak was with CASPER IN OZ and TWICE UNTOLD TALES. Earlier books really need rewriting, but … 
TaralWayne's avatar
Doug Winger didn't look after himself, didn't eat right, smoked far too much, and didn't exercise.  He was thin as a rail, but in this case it was a bad thing.  He rarely left the room in chick he lived, and said he was totally indifferent to whether he lived or died.  He apparently regretted his end, but not until the end, and I strongly suspect that he he had been cured and left to go back to his old ways, he would have done so.   It was as though he had no desire to live.
EmmetEarwax's avatar
I never smoked, nor have I used alcohol in 40 odd years. As my father and my grandfather both had a drinking problem, I do NOT trust my body and also have never fooled around with "recreational drugs". 
TaralWayne's avatar
No smoking here, either, and never drank much.  I like some drinks such as port, Bailey's, Tia Maria and other such sweet liqueurs, but I have no use for anything as bitter as beer, whiskey or gin.  I can take or leave ordinary wine. Overall, I doubt I drink more than one bottle of porn in a month.  Even then, I didn't take it up until middle age.  My dad and grand-dad were heavy drinkers, but it never appealed to me.
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It's hard to know how old anyone really is, but from things you've said I assume you aren't young, but not quite senile.  I would guess somewhere between 50 and possibly 60, but I still have a number of years on you. Some of my associates are older still.
EmmetEarwax's avatar
I am 74. Yes, 74.
Until about 65, I felt young. One of my older usernames was "TeenAgeOldMan", but nobody appreciated it or any other username I used.

I am currently looking for some form of assisted living, some arramgement for regular check-up visits. 
TaralWayne's avatar
I have an arrangement like that in the building I living in.  I look after myself, but they check to see I haven't died over the last couple of days...  I also get the floors and toilets cleaned once a week, as well as laundry.  If I get more decrepit, there might be more services available.
EmmetEarwax's avatar

I WAS going to move to a place like you describe, an aparrtment complex named Avalon. I even applied and acquired literature at an open house.

Two things made me change my mind.

(1) The cost: $2100/ month rent. Not per year. Per MONTH. Also $250 /month for the garage parking space. I own my house, my garage.

(2) Where was I to put all my stuff, accumulated from generations back ? My home is a museum, a library, an entertainment center, an office and a bedroom. Plus storerooms ,a garage, & a kitchen. Where am I to stash all the paintings ? I am sure they'd will NOT stand for nails hammered into the walls.


I plan to have regular help come in.

TaralWayne's avatar

I've accepted that I can't keep everything I've acquired over the years, only the things I like most. But finding home for the things I want to be rid of is not easy either! I don't want to throw good things in the trash, and (as far as I'm concerned) the Salvation Army is as good as in the Trash. Things are more likely to be broken by people who don't appreciate good collectibles.

Johnincornwall's avatar
Many thanks, he was one of the greats in his field.
Ilovefallingcows25's avatar
We'll never forget you Doug also your characters wouldn't miss you especially Pandora since they remember you in their hearts
Dustmeat's avatar
Mostly correct.  He was 61 when he died.  Doug's birthday was not until September 30th or so, and he was born in 1953.  Also he did professional jobs after he moved to Steve Martin's house, but by the 2000's this was not much.  There is a lot more to the man's story, but thank you for remembering him.
EmmetEarwax's avatar
I add 2 months to anybody's birthdate. For examp: Some joe or jill born on say 4-13-1971. Alright, adjust it to 2-13. Two months prior to birth you are conditiomally viable.

Doug Winger was mentally ill or he could not have lived the way he did, or deteriorated like you desctibed.
TaralWayne's avatar
I cribbed the date and age from Flayrah, but between that page and my word doc, I may have slipped.  It's easily corrected.

Later, Bob told me that Doug did in fact do some pro work on freelance -- must have been in the earlier years -- and I've already tweaked a line to acknowledge that.
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KlarkKentThe3rd's avatar
"We must cherish those sparrows who were wounded and fell, however, just as much as we value those who have soared."

That... was wonderful. Never knew you were a writer at heart.

Read the entire thing. And now I understand myself a little more. I saw too many things in Doug's life that I have in my own. I hope I will find a way to make my life better, I hope I could reorganize and clean my mind. Thanks for writing this.
jhwood9's avatar
Wow.  That was a touching eulogy.  Beautifully written.
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