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Straight in the childhood by Tacimur Straight in the childhood by Tacimur
Please feel free to make all jokes about Disney-owned franchises that apply.

Personally, I think we need J. J. Abrams to direct the next TLK movie and save the series.
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Sansomon Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2016  Student Traditional Artist
The answer to why Kion not appear in Lion King II is actually much simpler ... Disney really just want to forget Lion King II. For her this movie was one of the biggest mistakes I ever made using the fair name of Lion King one of his most famous feature films cartoons. They have begun Lion King II horribly cheating the Lion King fans to assume that Simba and Nala cub was actually "a female" what is a lie that goes against all official canon known Lion King where by all fans know that cub was actually MALE and called Kopa and not, Kiara.

Another thing that Disney simply want to delete is Kovu because she does not want anything at all related to Scar defiling the Kingdom of Simba. That, romantic relationship of "Romeo and Juliet" between Lions with a happy ending Lion King II after some time began to be questioned as the most terribly wrong decisions that Disney has taken and for this reason Disney simply want to discard the it and disappear with Kovu. That simple . For them the idea of ​​a teen and good version, of Scar equal Kovu was one of the silliest ideas that Disney could have taken. Nothing good could from someone trained from childhood to embrace the path of darkness so for more benevolent to be the influence of Kiara about he any thing truly "noble" could from Kovu. Point.

Another thing that Disney wants to delete the memory of the fans is Simba acting as a "benevolent and well-intentioned tyrant however not very different of Scar" of Lion King II. I almost did not recognize Simba in this film because the way he was acting came the scare. He has started terribly wrong "break" his kingdom and expelling of Pride Rock all lions were "loyal to Scar" an attitude, not a bit, noble hardly the King supposedly "good" would take and exiling, in a land arid and miserable, they had little food, water and hunting and established severe punishments for Outlanders who dared enter their land which again is something not at all integrate a just ruler to do was a Father too overprotective with Kiara who robbed him the freedom to act and almost suffocated her daughter not giving she the freedom to do anything alone the way he treated the Outlanders remember those rulers oppressors who thought that there were people "more equal than others." When Kovu disowned the Outlanders after the death of Nuka and returned to Pride Rock to ask forgiveness for what he had done all Simba's anger at being deceived and almost killed by Zira and Outlanders lies with him and this expelled from the land of Pride Rock exiling him in the desert. He came to get nervous and scold even with Timon and Pumbaa his best friends without which he would never have survived to adulthood because Kiara had fled to go find Kovu. And when Zira comes with Outlanders in search of "war" he is not intimidated and even accepted despite the consequences it could bring to his kingdom if he lost.

It's all right . Alpha Numeric. He went behind after while there was still time and recognized that he was doing wrong however it does not change the fact that Simba, that noble hero of Lion King for a short period was not much different or "better" than Scar. Ok the theme Lion King II was to show "the other point of view of history" if the Kovu and Outlanders and show that even the noblest of heroes can also make mistakes that they regret later put Disney simply want erase he from the minds of fans to remember that would not have been so Mufasa would have wanted his son to act. Mufasa had terribly wrong Taka making him become Scar then he would not want his son to repeat this error.

Kion is simply trying to fix the cheating with the fans made in Lion King II to replace Kopa by Kiara and give Simba a worthy and "special" male heir and they prefer infinitely "forget" everything related to Lion King II and assume that everything was like one of those Marvel stories of "What if ...?" narrated by The Watcher in a "Alternate Reality Possible" but actually has nothing really to do with what happens in the real world of the universe of Lion King and for all effects Lion King II NEVER HAPPENED than even dare to think about making Kiara marry even with Kovu and make them have a cub because for Disney anything that comes from someone who had direct or indirect relationship with Scar can actually be "good."
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Tacimur Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes, I agree. They stepped into a trap with TLK II. In order to make Kiara shine more, they had to dumb down the original cast, especially Simba. Kiara had to be smarter and more likeable than him. It's what makes "Mary Sue" stories so insufferable. But Simba was one of their most beloved heroes and one of the most iconic Disney characters of all times, and they damaged him. Bad move!
However, with the Lion Guard being an attempt to fix that mess, I have two huge criticisms. First, they should've ignored the second movie outright, including Kiara. Now, whe have a happy family with a kind Simba and a Kiara that is super eager to be queen and a magical protector to solve all Outlander problems before they happen. Kiara is in the series because of TLK II, but TLK II can now never happen because how the show is. It's a circular clusterfuck. Second... the magic. The Lion Guard episodes that don't feature magical stuff are actually really good! But magical superpowers and magical cave paintings that move if you tap them with a stick, even if you're a silly little badger? Like cave TV? If TLK II was considered a mistake, then what's with this?
This actually sounds way more bitter than I'm really feeling about it all, it's just cartoons, after all. But my points still stand.
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Sansomon Featured By Owner Edited Sep 15, 2016  Student Traditional Artist
Exactly how I feel too. Simba was to have been shown in a different way in Lion King II. They could have escaped the trap of making a film making Kiara a character Mary Sue and respecting the due amount of Simba as one of the most charismatic heroes of Disney and tried to portray he not as a "benevolent tyrant" but as a "wise king" however they preferred to choose to make the new characters new best and brightest what did not work the same way with all the characters from Lion King II.

Kovu for example is tremendously bad employee as a character almost as much as Cyclops was in the films of X-Men that practically did not show any of that charismatic and confident leader who see X-Men comics of being eclipsed by Wolverine. With Kovu is the same he hardly shows any action or attitude that characterized as a leader he is there only to serve as an ornament and for the record that the Outlanders have a young lion male but otherwise he's a dead weight in history that down to Kiara.

Zira is a complete nullity as villainess she is a character type that hammy not nearly equals Scar. And all the other characters are only there to serve as adornment Nala is no longer that fearless lioness became the beloved of Simba and becomes a quiet housewife, Timon and Pumbaa completely lose the grace that had the comic characters of the first film of Lion King and has too few, important moments of humor. All other Lion King II characters are pretty much just there for the record that there are new characters however overall this movie summarize entirely of Kiara.

And rightfully so Disney wants to forget it and it created Lion Guard with more elements present in other fantasy animations like "magic" with the Roar of the Elders of Kion, the wise grandpa Mufasa / Obi-Wan Kenobi that always comes to give wise advice to his grandson, the magic cave paintings of the Cave of Rafiki, Simba and the other characters a little better exploited than in Lion King II where Kiara is less Mary Sue and the other characters have each its importance but sometimes it gets me the impression that I'm watching a Japanese anime that had these ideas are added because currently what you would like the children of the new generation who grew up watching Naruto, One Piece, Fairy Tail and other animes.

Even the trace of the characters this much anime style. Lion Guard was created to try to make the public forget Lion King II telling a story in a language closer of the anime with the Lion King characters tailored to meet the tastes of the generation that grew up watching animes and not interested in other types of animations. The question is whether had results?
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red-mohawk Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2016  Student General Artist
I'm surprised they took out Simba's first son. Kopa, I think? I dunno. They're really messing with the cannon here.
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Tacimur Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Then again, Kopa was passé once SP came out, which used to be a big disappointment for me back then.
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Sansomon Featured By Owner Edited Feb 26, 2016  Student Traditional Artist
I do not like The Lion Guard. Point. They dismiss completely the events of "The Lion King II - Simba's Pride" gone with Kovu (apparently thought nothing of "good" could come from someone connected to Scar) and all events of the second film were disregarded only put in place, Kion and the animal friends of the Lion Guard. I hate this series the animation they use it is rough toward the anime style, the traditional Disney animation has been infinitely better just compare The Lion Guard with old series like Duck Tales, Chip 'n Dale Rescue Rangers, The Little Mermaid Animated Series , Aladdin, Gargoyles of Disney, the Legend of Tarzan, the animation of Lion Guard is truncated to the characters with mechanical movements and they also do not know how to exploit the other characters from the Lion King. Simba is nothing more than a decorative ornament that appears in the episodes without any attitude, Nala could not be there that no one would lack she, Timon and Pumbaa are more caricatured and stereotyped as comic characters, King Mufasa was transformed into Obi- Wan Kenobi of Kion that only appears to give to he wise advice like a ghost that appears in the sky with sun rays, Kiara became a Patty Princess of Beverly Hills this series is nothing more than a plagiarism of the second season of Jungle Emperor, Onward Leo! , Which focused on Rune adventures the white lion cub of Leo / Kimba and his animal friends with the difference that the participation of the father in the adventures is null. I do not waste my time watching it when start an episode I solemnly turn off the television or then change of the channel.
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Khorran Featured By Owner May 25, 2016
Kovu isn't gone!! Kovu, Vitani, and Nuka are all confirmed to come back by the end of the first season!! :)
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Sansomon Featured By Owner May 25, 2016  Student Traditional Artist
But he returned "like that"? As a "Judas" who betrayed the "Kion Messiah" and his "apostles" of the Lion Guard? And his brothers will come back as part of the "Pharisees hypocrites" Outlanders?
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Tacimur Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Many of the series you mentioned could never be made today because they'd be too expensive, very sad but true. They kept using cheaper and cheaper third world animaton places and it shows... compare Gummy Bears or Tailspin (Japan) to Timon&Pumbaa or Jungle Cubs (god knows where)... compared to that, even TLG looks decent, especially the faces and the amount of detail that goes into the characters. The bodies... yeah, that looks like what a child would do playing with a rubber animal. I'm glad that at least now Fuli's back arches when she runs. And Nala... I'm glad that they show her doing something from time to time at least (like the hunting lessons for the female cubs), because you know, mothers are actully kinda important in kids' lives, even though Disney doesn't seem to think so.
The Mufasa thing really annoys me, though. It's like an effing Skype conference to the afterlife, but thankfully, they used him a lot less during the more recent episodes. Still can't forgive what they made of him. If he's that talkative and easy to reach, couldn't he have taken a second to appear to young Simba and tell him "Son, you're not to blame for my death. It was Scar. I love you." No... because from a script writing point of view, that would be horrible! And that's how it is in TLG.
But the series does a lot of things right, too. If they did not abuse the supernatural or magical aspects so much, I could really enjoy it. But the things that are wrong are so wrong that I can't look past them. And that makes it so difficult to just shut up and leave it be.
Interesting bit about the second season of Jungle Emperor Leo! I'll have to look into that specifically.
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Sansomon Featured By Owner Edited Feb 27, 2016  Student Traditional Artist
But it is there that the African continent has been almost entirely tamed. There are so few places in Africa that remain untouched by the destructive hand of man that surprise me that have never appeared hunters in Pridelands, armed to the teeth, it would be infinitely more dangerous than Janja and Hyenas and which Kion and Lion Guard not they could easily win. Another despite the series animation is relatively good it still looks amateurish. Who compares the animation The Lion Guard with classical series that Disney has done even at the stage of lower budget will see that there was a decline in the quality of animation terrible. Same old episodes of Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck made there by 1960 gone they did not have things like CG seem to have an infinitely better animation than the The Lion Guard. The line used in this series of Disney cartoons seems amateur compared with all that Disney has done in animation and has a purpose anime style air made in order to attract the public portion are "nerds who only watch anime." Now as to the characters. Seeing the side you said I even agree on Nala teach their children to hunt in the wild it is up to Leone the task of teaching the cubs at this point agreed on it. But where is that wife that her husband always side with wise counsel? Where is this adorable and funny character when cub playing catching with Simba and always won? I admit that it is even nicer to see Simba actually be a wise king of the Pridelands and not a tyrant "well-intentioned" like The Lion King 2 - Simba's Pride but I also liked by one side of Kovu and see that no one has or is required to follow the path of darkness do not want and that the generation that comes after can flourish better than the last if given the chance. Discard it and everything that happened in TLK2 was a huge waste out it would be interesting to see the cubs of Kiara and Kovu interacting with Kion and The Lion Guard. Yes . It has exactly this precise point on Mufasa. Why did he never appears to Simba to advise him in moments of doubt? For the writers of The Lion Guard think it would be inappropriate and break all the climate of respect and reverence that Simba has for him for his death to save his life . About the elements most "mystics" of the series I ever saw in the same chapters of Jungle Emperor Leo and its sequel Jungle Emperor,Onward Leo! . Leo / Kimba the first season only one cub white lion has to live countless adventures and face various dangers to become the Jungle Emperor in the second season he has a mature adult, experienced and powerful married to his childhood companion of adventures to Leone Lea/ Kitty takes the responsibility of being the king of animals of Jungle and live adventures alongside her two cubs the young male white lion Rune and young female Rukio. Leo/Kimba has nothing like the Roar of the Elders of Kion but not need. In an episode of Jungle Emperor Leo he still a cub white lion is able to face a Black Panther blind adult owner supernaturally developed senses to compensate for the lack of vision and win he and how adult Leo / Kimba had an agility and extraordinary strength. He could give impressive jumps, possessed an incredible agility and was capable of feats of strength to hold the leg of an adult African elephant (!!!). And besides all he could speak the language of humans. The stories of Leo / Kimba had mystical elements such as fantastic creatures mythological, magical weapons, shamanic magic, science fiction and other topics. All of Kion is Leo / Kimba was long before him during his childhood and later in adulthood living adventures alongside his young son white lion Rune. So I made this only by comparison . Of course The Lion Guard and Jungle Emperor are two series entirely distinct and full of sufficient differences can not be compared however still do not like. Disney has done a lot higher series in the past. This seems to me only a series made to profit a little more with The Lion King one of the biggest successes that Disney had with a number of cheap and childlike.
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Gwyndor Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ohh gott xDD haha
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Sansomon Featured By Owner Edited Dec 12, 2015  Student Traditional Artist
Apparently the directors of Disney decided to disconsider the events of "The Lion King II: Simba's Pride" and "disappear" with Kovu to replace he with Kion as special Lion protect the Pridelands when Simba is gone. Kiara no mentions absolutely nothing about he or someday "have known" Kovu when she was a lioness cub and seems determined not to have any relation to anything that comes from Scar. And in "The Lion King II: Simba's Pride" is said that the hyenas had fled to its territory and the Lion Guard film see me with an army of hyenas to threaten the Pridelands? And they disappear with Shenzi and replace by Janja, a young male prototype of Scar and Zira's apprentice ? Disney cheated us completely that part and now she tries to "remedy"the fact that the young lion cub of Simba originally should have been male and not female that presenting a series of cartoons with the adventures of a Lion cub male with "super powers" to try to replace Kopa and forget Kovu. Lamentable.
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Khorran Featured By Owner May 25, 2016
Kovu is going to return! It's been confirmed for a while that kovu, Vitani, and Nuka will all come back
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Sansomon Featured By Owner May 25, 2016  Student Traditional Artist
But he returned "like that"? As a "Judas" who betrayed the "Kion Messiah" and his "apostles" of the Lion Guard? And his brothers will come back as part of the "Pharisees hypocrites" Outlanders?
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Xmen1991 Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2015
All I'm waiting for is for Kion to say he doesn't like sand, and how he hates the hyenas (Not just the men, but the women and the children too).
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Tacimur Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
While Fuli just looks at him blankly and then tells him that this is only human. Would account for the hyenas' absence in the second movie, though.
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SuperMarioFan65 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Does Kion has power?
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Tacimur Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Jup he has.
SPOILER:
He has this thing called Roar of the Elders. It's a super loud roar, and when he uses it, his mark glows and giant lion shapes appear in the clouds and roar with him. The Roar releases a shock wave that can even kill animals (Scar had this power too and killed the members of his Lion Guard with it). When Kion touched his paw to the shoulders of his friends that he wanted in the Guard, the mark also appeared on their bodies. Not very subtle. ^^;
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SuperMarioFan65 Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Oh. Thanks by the way :)
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Darthmaul1999 Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That didn't exactly end well with the last person they said that about...
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Tacimur Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
There's a short clip where Kion is a total dick to Kiara, also he'll never be king but is given great huge powers, and he mysteriously isn't around when dark forces threaten the Pridelands in the second movie... there is certainly some potential for things to go awfully wrong. x)
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Darthmaul1999 Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Next thing you know, he'll be whining about how he's not the most powerful lion in Africa and then join the hyenas after being tricked into thinking he can be. X'D 
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Pentacoil Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
XD hahahah  Timon -  Applause by Nyot-Leo briljant
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Tacimur Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:) Thanks!
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stvr-bites Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
i laughed so hard at dis XDDD
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Shembre Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2015  Professional General Artist
Hehehe, I giggled out loud at this :D Love the colors! They're so bright :aww:
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SilkenGalaxy Featured By Owner Edited Sep 21, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh gosh, this is too funny. Yeah, when I first heard about the Lion Guard, I thought it had some promise, and I like that they're giving less popular animals some light, but this is getting ridiculous, TLK did pretty darn well, then sappy sequel with an ok storyline gets popular (who knows why), and now this. THIS. What is this Disney? It was weird enough with cloud Mufasa talking, now magical lion cub, what in the world? O-o 
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Xmen1991 Featured By Owner Edited Sep 20, 2015
It this show gets a second season,  i guarantee Kion will spend half of it whining about how it's all Simba's fault and how he's holding him back.
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Tacimur Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Kion then falls to the dark side of the Roar, and it turns out that from then on the show gets hugely entertaining to watch. True, the one scene where he murders all cubs in the Pride was a bit jarring, even compared to Mufasa's death, but the ending, where he fights down his inner demons and turns back to the light makes it all worth it.
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SiranaJHelena Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
What the hell did the tourists feed these lions if their kids got magic powers out of thin air? o.O
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Tacimur Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Freeze-dried fairies!
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Pristichampsus Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2015  Professional General Artist
I was even jaded and irked when "Lion King 2: Simba's Pride" came out, I mean, I was 9 when the original came out. Even at that young age, I knew that "straight to video" is hollywood speak for "spinoff/cashgrab", so to see Disney essentially milking such a good original movie was problematic for me. I have a feeling that I'm in the minority, as loads of LK fans love Zira and Kovu etc. But yeah, all hope was lost when LK 2 and a half came out. The only thing I like about this new series is that we are seeing underappreciated animals being made into popular characters, I mean, Honeybadgers have had fairly little non-internet acclaim.
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Tacimur Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I agree completely. Simba's Pride always felt rushed and half-finished to me. They didn't even begin to take care of the plot holes, and the characters were so underdeveloped. I appreciated it for the inspiration and the expansion of the 'world'.
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Pristichampsus Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2015  Professional General Artist
Good to hear I'm not alone, haha.
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DarkRika Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2015
Rafiki ist dir wirklich vortrefflich gelungen, deine Expeditionen in den TLK-Stil sind echt sehenswert :)
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Tacimur Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:-) Danke!!!
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Xmen1991 Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2015
Be on the look out for the Special Edition of The Lion King, featuring poorly rendered CGI Hyenas and Wilderbests in the background.
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Tacimur Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
IRL, we had the infamous additional scene "Morning Report" that meshed with the rest of the movie about as well.
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Xmen1991 Featured By Owner Edited Aug 20, 2015
The more I hear about the show's plot, the more I think it was "inspired" by the creators' fanfics.
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Tacimur Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
...which they wrote at age 8 or so. x)
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Xmen1991 Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2015
Here was the original pitch:

Kion: "By the power of the Pridelands"

*Transforms into a fully grown Lion*

Kion: "I have the Roar!"
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Tacimur Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Pumbaa: *transforms into Battlepig*
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dreiga19 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
*facepalms* lmao
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Tacimur Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
;) Thanks!
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Xmen1991 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2015
Apparently the kings of the past also mind wiped every one because none of this is even hinted at in the movies.  Just like Highlander 2.
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Tacimur Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Forced amnesia, the last tool of the lazy screenwriter. I bet this is coming.
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Xmen1991 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2015
That makes even less sense because by that logic, Scar should have gotten magical powers. My god, Highlander 2 had less plot holes than this.
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Tacimur Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Spoilers ahead!
He did have them, according to the same presentation held by Disney. But he thought this made him better than Mufasa and gave him the idea to overthrow him. His Lion Guard team didn't want to and got destroyed. Then the kings of the past took the power away from him because he used it for evil. Then something unexplained obviously led to everyone trusting him again in the original movie.
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Xmen1991 Featured By Owner Edited Aug 19, 2015
All joking aside, it did bring up a lot of questions. For example, how does that tattoo/cutie mark thing work? Was painted on Kion when he was born? if so than how does It grant Kion magical powers and not Simba?  And that's just the tip of the iceberg.  :D (Big Grin) 
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Tacimur Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hm, the way I interpret it, he never saw it before the day it got magically bestowed upon him when he saved Bunga. And Disney said that this power is only ever granted to the second born. Which... doesn't really make sense because the actual king gets nothing?
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