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An opinion on those overhated Nintendo Games
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Most people bashed these games because of biased nostalgia.
There are far worse games out there such as Hotel Mario, Educational Mario Games, The Unholy Triforce (CD-i Zelda Games), most of the games for the Virtual Boy console, etc.

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Ironically, Federation FARCE is exactly the reason why I don't hate Other M as much as I used to. Because for all its infamous flaws, like the writing, story, characterisation of Samus, music (sans Ridley's and Phantoon's themes) English dub supervised by a NON-ENGLISH SPEAKER, Authorisation System, Search Segments and non-existent "Story Ending" boss fight, it's actually got quite a few positives, like the graphics, sounds effects (the sound of a Power Bomb detonating or a Super Missile being fired is a sweet symphony of war...), gameplay, level design, combat system and ESPECIALLY the boss fights, other than the aforementioned disappointment (and even that's made up for by the TRUE final battle with a GIANT, ROOM-DESTROYING PHANTOON). And despite its shortcomings, it still feels like a legitimate Metroid game. NONE of this praise holds true for FF.
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Corvus-the-Snark|Hobbyist General Artist
This is probably the most prevalent problem amongst gamers today: they exaggerate the badness of a lot of games both recent and old. The worst game shown on this stamp is Sticker Star and that one is just below average at worst.
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Really? I thought Super Mario Sunshine was pretty good.
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Wait... people thought Mario Sunshine and Starfox Adventures were bad games? I can understand the criticism of adventures for being a zelda clone and the fact that they essentially shoehorned starfox into it since the original game was going to be called Dinosaur Planet and have a different plot, but why mario? Sunshine is probably the most fun mario game I've ever played along with Super mario 64
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It's ironic to label Starfox Adventures a Zelda clone because both Zelda & Starfox are created & own by Nintendo. (Plus, Zelda isn't the first dungeon crawler adventure ever made.)

You obviously not looking into the right places for certain opinions on Super Mario Sunshine.
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I didn't mean I personally see it as a zelda clone but a lot of people do
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So which game do you personally like better, Super Mario Sunshine, or Paper Mario: Color Splash?
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You should add Fire Emblem Fates to this stamp.
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Luna-Runa|Hobbyist General Artist
Tell me about it. That game gets too much hate on GameFAQs forums. And some of the users bash you if you like Fates over the older titles.
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I know I sure have. I also get bashed for thinking Peri is one of my favorites.
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Luna-Runa|Hobbyist General Artist
I got called shit taste for not having a switch and owning fates instead.
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How is Super Mario Sunshine Hated? I see a lot of people are praising on it.
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BronyVideoGamer's avatar
Three words: Super Mario Odyssey.
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motherfan142|Student General Artist
*COUGH COUGH* almost every indie rpg maker games *COUGH COUGH*
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Tell me about it. I still see people bash Sticker Star and Color Splash to this day. Along with the Sonic series.
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asrielneedshugs|Hobbyist Traditional Artist
How in the fuck, could anyone hate Super Mario Sunshine?!
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good-boi|Student Digital Artist
Super Mario Sunshine is like the best game in the world how do people actually hate it
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I think you might need to watch this video to find out: m.youtube.com/watch?v=O6WwtmDK…
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I played some of the games mentioned.  I played...

1.Super Mario Sunshine.
2.Starfox Adventures: Dinosaur Planet.
3.Metroid Other M (I rented the game).

I bought Federation Force, but I haven't played it yet.  And I WANT to play Color Splash.
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Well, in regards of the games that you put in the description: What can you expect of games like the CD-i Zelda and Educational Mario games that either were made by their creators or having this kind of terrible ideas? they were going to be shit anyway.

Now with the games you have mentioned in the stamps (except for Sunshine since that game actually is amazing), unlike people who defend them, people who hate/dislike them have valid reasons. Federation Force because it had very little resemblance to an actual Metroid game, and fans expressed frustration at Nintendo for developing a spin-off instead of a main-series title like a new Metroid Prime or another Metroidvania, as the series had been on hiatus for 5 years. (8 for most of the fans, considering that they hated Other M), Sticker Star because it abandonded what made Paper Mario so special like the RPG elements, partners, stories, original characters, etc. And with Color Splash, it was expected to recieve extremely negative reception upon getting announced for it's similarities with Sticker Star and once again, fans expressed frustration at Nintendo for not contining the PM64 and TTYD formula they love so much instead since it's been 13 since a Paper Mario RPG came out. As for Star Fox Adventures, you should have put Zero instead since that game got much more hate than Adventures and even Assault for being a reharsh of Star Fox 64 with shitty motions controls.

Also, saying that people bashed all these games because of biased nostalgia is as fake as Half-Life 3 being officially confirmed because if we go by your logic, then people who defend all these games would be super newfags because they can't stand the fact that people are going to bash their game, no matter how valid their point are. Denying this would make yourself (and pretty much everybody who defended those games) nothing but a close-minded hypocrite.

Now to finish this, did you know that the last year was the Metroid 30th anniversary and Paper Mario 15th anniversary? With something like that, fans were expecting that Nintendo would make games of their respective series to honour those beloved series kinda like how they did with Kid Icarus 25th anniversary with Kid Icarus: Uprising. And why did Nintendo do? 
They paid no attention to let alone respects.
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Those games are all I can think of for my statement.

Sunshine being amazing is an opinion not a fact. Just because they have valid reasons, doesn't mean that they have the right to bully other people for having an opinion that differs from theirs. Federation Force is obviously not your cup of tea. TTYD looks like a rehash of the first Paper Mario game just with a few cosmetic changes. The old Paper Mario formula isn't perfect because there are flaws that the purists have overlooked. I think both Adventures & Zero are overhated. Planet Robobot is just a rehash of Triple Deluxe but with a mech gimmick. It's possible to master Zero's motion controls according to some people.

The reason why I said that is because they think that change is "objectively" bad along with treating the old games like it's religion & bullying people for not liking them. Not all people who liked the games that you hate are fanbrats. Same can be said for certain haters depending on a situation.

I think the reason why they don't respect your favorite franchises is because they don't make ton of profit compared to their 3 major cash cow franchises.
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viviareena|Hobbyist Digital Artist
Federation Force is okay. However, I think Prime Hunters is way more underrated.
How it's a TTYD a reharsh of the first Paper Mario? It's a sequel just like how Banjo Tooie, Donkey Kong Country 2, Majora's Mask, Pikmin 2, Metroid Prime 2, etc. are sequels of their respective games. Or are you going to call these beloved games reharshes just because of their similitaries of their prequels?
No games are perfect but those formulas really made the first two Paper Mario games so beloved. Not only the battle system was really loved, but also the characters that you wouldn't find in your typical Mario game, the environments, the humor according to the situations, etc.

I don't think they think change is objetively bad, like Arlo said once "We love when you try new things Nintendo, we really do. But not when these new things replaces every old thing we love".

I sometimes likes to pretends that franchises that are not cash cows (Metroid, Pikmin, F-Zero, etc.) tends to be the bestest. Always original, never getting milked, taking their time to have some new ideas and most of all, ambitious.
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So what Nintendo games are simply hated for Nostaligia?
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Paper Mario: Sticker Star, Color Splash, Mario Party 9, 10, Advance, Island Tour, the Sonic series from Sonic Adventure onwards, and Federation Force.
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