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Here's Prince Hans of the Southern Isles, from the new Disney blockbuster FROZEN. I am honestly not a huge fan of this movie-- you can read my review of it here. It had some good moments but it felt kind of weak overall, especially compared to TANGLED. The characters, IMO, were kind of bland, though they had potential.

SPOILERS BELOW.

Anyway, Hans here is the bad guy, and the idea of this doe-eyed pretty boy charmer being an ambitious, Machiavellian schemer is actually pretty cool, but the way it's carried out feels to me more like the scriptwriters reached the third act, realized, "hey, we need a bad guy!" and picked him at random. There's zero set-up to his eventual Face Heel Turn, which is too bad, because (at least in theory) it's an interesting idea. 

I didn't care much for the character design overall, so it was a challenge to take Hans here and make him look like the guy he's supposed to be.  As I started drawing this, I realized that Hans, with his pointy nose, round puppy eyes and big chin, looks a LOT like a very young Blackadder/Jeeves & Wooster-era Hugh Laurie, which cracks me up. In this drawing, he's dressed a la Rupert Friend in THE YOUNG VICTORIA, with poofy late 1830s hair too, since the costumes of FROZEN seemed be basically early Victorian in style (so it's of the more consistent Disney movies when it comes to fashion, at least).

Anyway, I'm not sure if the end result is more 1830s Bertie Wooster, or Mr. Bingley as a Dickensian social climber, or some combination thereof.  It was fun to do, at least!
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E-Ocasio Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2015   Artist
I do agree with your review of the movie. Not enough background and reasons why for crucial details, maybe they'll fix that or not in the second one, it was officially announced they will make a feature length sequence.
I liked this realistic looking Hans.
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner May 2, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
Thanks! :)
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E-Ocasio Featured By Owner May 3, 2016   Artist
You're welcome.
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RebellingLemming Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Great art!
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner May 2, 2016  Professional Traditional Artist
Thank you! 
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AntiRCCZealot Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Holy crap....o.O He looks so much like Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism. :wow:
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
You know, he kind of does... I'm not sure what to make of that.
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Mousse95 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
he looks so gorgeous! great work!
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Thank you! :)
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Juliana63 Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014
he is so hot in real life. o. my. god.
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
I bet you'll enjoy seeing the painting I'm going to be doing of him!
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HughHmrs223 Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2014
He can sit with Draco Malfoy and Caledon Hockley in one sofa, handcuffed with each other --- so I can throw PIES!
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Whatever creams your Twinkie!
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
That reminds me of this old song by Yes: www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcSLb2…
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SirFranPan Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2013  Professional General Artist
So dashing! <3 Great sketch interpretation and well worked with the darker and looser tones. I do have a soft sort for men in such period clothing...

I will agree with you that there was something missing from the film to make it really good. Tangled seemed to be better rounded. However I still liked it and some of the places they were going with it were very interesting. :)
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
It was a flawed but ambitious movie, with some really interesting elements that didn't totally work, but... there you go. I'm glad you like it. When I have the chance I'd like to do a full-length painting.
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HareTrinity Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree, I have no idea how people think this is better than Tangled. :/ I enjoyed this film up until after Hans saved Elsa's life, and then his "twist" was... Yeah. Not good. He was dedicated enough to personally go out and fight ice giants but not enough keep up the nice-guy act? The "we said our vows (in private with no witnesses)" line also seemed like a last-minute addition since that's not how marriage works, in part BECAUSE of scenarios like this one.

I didn't like Kristoff either (he was kind of patronising and I never saw any sparks between Anna and him, unlike with Hans), so that didn't help! :( Oh well.

Complaints about the film aside: Love your Hans redesign! :) Wish they'd gone with with something more than that, though I'm sure the "clich Disney prince" look was intentional.
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Yeah, I agree completely. Kristoff WAS patronizing, wasn't he? It was very much in that romance novel/romantic comedy trope where, if a guy is douchey and not-that-into-you, he must be the hero! I am so, SO sick of that trope.

I don't think his face is that cliched; it's a fairly interesting one, now that I think about it. I think when I was watching I was probably overwhelmed by "meh" as I'd heard so many raves about it and was expecting More. When I have the chance, I'd like to do a full-length painting (though I'm not quite sure when that will be).
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HareTrinity Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It was mostly that Kristoff seemed to think it was his place to lecture Anna on her love life, which strikes me as hugely rude (at a "lose some weight, fatty" level). :shrug: I think he was meant to be just a blunt type of honest but, yeah... Just seemed presumptuous. Actually, the whole film had this side plot of "Anna's love life is everyone's business" which really quite irked me. What happened to young people being free to make their own mistakes?

It would have been much nicer if they'd solved the Anna/Hans "problem" by having them both fall for someone else, and agreeing that they're better off as just friends (kids' films skimp on platonic friendships a bit too much, I think). A proper villain might have given the film more structure (and a good song) but I felt that an evil advisor character (convincing the king and queen to keep Elsa isolated, maintaining Anna's isolation after her parents' death, etc) was what was missing, not a bad boyfriend! How did Anna fail to make friends with servants anyway?

Honestly I hadn't been expecting too much from the film (just a cute reindeer) but it still disappointed me. It was very much like Tangled but without all the colour and plot strength. Even Sven, who's a lovely reindeer with a great name, was too much Maximus without the sword-wielding and heroics... Ah, well! I enjoyed Tangled and Princess and the Frog, so hopefully this was just a blip and Disney's next princess film will be better. :)

(Sorry about how long this post is! :o I get carried away sometimes!)

I'd like to see you do a full-length pic of Hans! Your gallery shows a proper enthusiasm for the upper class fashion trends that really helps this pic carry a fancy edge of realism and I'm sure it would come through well in full too! :D
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
This was a long post, but so much word to what you said!  The character arcs for all the main people by and large did not work.  And what was Elsa doing for all those years? Shouldn't she have been taking monarch lesson or something? And where on earth were all the servants?

So yeah, all our criticisms are summed up in this really insightful review here. www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQLhXh…
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HareTrinity Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Actually, who was running the kingdom before Elsa? :/

Ah well! Thanks for linking the review, that and this conversation have been quite cathartic in dealing with my post-Frozen "why is this film so popular?!?" feelings! :D
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
That... is a very, very good question. :P

I started watching the movie again, and it really does have interesting elements in it, but on the whole I find it a frustrating misfire. Well, at least I enjoy the fandom.

Oh hey, more Frozen fanart: suburbanbeatnik.deviantart.com…
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HareTrinity Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
It's nice that we live in a time of much fandom fun! :nod: And ooh, okay!
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
:XD:
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Markiy Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow, this so pretty! Dat hair :3 And the eyes are very beautiful :)
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Thank you! I'm glad you like it. :)
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LaurenGreiner Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2013  Professional General Artist
YESSSSSSSS. I love the 1830s-ness of his design. You've captured him very well! All he was missing in the film was some mutton chops. :D
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Thank you! I'd love to do more fanart-- I just need to find the time. (That's always the hitch, isn't it?) Hans is so interesting to me! I hope at one point I can do a full length painting. That would be so cool.
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WalkingOnTheStars Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013
Very good. I like how you made him more realistic. And historically accurate. :)
Hmmm, I always thought Hans' bad-guy twist was ingenious... but now that you mention it, it did seem to come out of nowhere. :(
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Thank you! He does have an interesting face-- not your usual "handsome prince" face, which I find very appealing.

The bad-guy twist is a good concept, but I think the execution of the idea was not all there. But... the fandom has been reacting with some pretty awesome fanfic, which has been really a blast to read!
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WalkingOnTheStars Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2013
Yeah, all those hackneyed Prince Charming faces get pretty boring! :)

Yes, I do believe the execution was the biggest problem. Maybe if he had shown more bitterness over the fact that he wouldn't inherit the throne, or something, it would have made more sense. Or if he had actually played a more prominent role in the movie... I felt like sometimes the screenwriters were just like, "Oh yeah, where's Hans??" and they threw him in there somewhere, randomly. :?

Hmmm, I haven't seen much Frozen fanfiction. At least, not thoroughly fleshed-out, epic saga fanfic, which I prefer. Maybe I just haven't been looking hard enough. :)
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
I've posted this video elsewhere, but this is a really thorough examination of why the plotting in the movie didn't work. www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQLhXh…

And speaking of FROZEN fanfic, this story hasn't finished, but I think it's quite good so far: archiveofourown.org/works/1072…
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WalkingOnTheStars Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2014
Okay, thanks! I'll have to check both of those out! :)
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Let me know what you think!
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WalkingOnTheStars Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014
Wow. That video made me really sad. Because, after watching it and reflecting on my viewing of Frozen -- I totally agree. :( There were quite a few characters that served no purpose (like that Duke no one remembers and the trolls that, quite honestly, kinda freaked me out ), the themes should have been felt rather then explained (and not just thrown in at the end of the movie), the storytelling itself could have been much better (like the beginning could have been cut out and the movie would have actually made more sense), the music could have leant more atmosphere and culture to the film (the poppy, upbeat music is something that actually bothered me from the moment I heard their strains) and it would have been much more poignant with Elsa as the main character, since she was the one with a problem. :( With all that said, however, I still really liked Frozen. :) Thank you for showing me that video, though; it was very interesting and eye-opening. Haha, the guys were really funny, too!

I havent read the fanfiction, but from the summary alone it looks good! I think the movie would have made more sense that way, with Hans going after the sister who rules the kingdom... instead of trying to kill them both off... That was something that really bothered me: how would he have had any reasonable claim to Arendale? Wasn't there some kin next in line to the throne? (Or did Hans claim to marry Anna before she "died"? I dont remember... But still. If I were an Arendalian, I wouldnt stand for some random dude coming in and taking over, married to the princess or not.)

Hm, sorry for taking up so much room on your comments! *'_'*
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
No worries! I started watching Frozen again. I can now write a one-line review: "I really like elements of it, but on the whole it is a frustrating misfire."

Hans is still hella hot, though.

BTW, if you could leave one of your long, lovely comments on my latest Elsa painting, I would greatly appreciate it! :)  Here's a link if you need one: suburbanbeatnik.deviantart.com…
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Rosengeist Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013  Professional General Artist
Look at all that fluffy hair.  This makes me want to go watch "The Young Victoria" XD.  I like the energy of the lines here.  Very lively! :)
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Why thank you, my dear! I know, that's a lot of fluffy hair. And that cravat! He's such a darling.
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KBAFourthtime Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013
Actually, "Heel-Face Turn" means turning from evil to good. If you mean turning from good to evil, it's "Face-Heel Turn".
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
LOL, and I thought I was a pedant! Okay, I changed it.
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KBAFourthtime Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013
"Pedant"? I don't remember hearing that word or its definition.

And nice sketch, by the way.
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Gracias!
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KBAFourthtime Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013
No problem.
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ColonelLiamRoss Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013  Professional Artisan Crafter
Man, I had the EXACT same feeling about this film. I thought the design was really quite nice (the textures on the clothes OMG) but the story had more holes than a swiss-cheese - the really interesting stuff (like Elsa's powers and Kristoff's questionable background) had a lot of potential that never saw the light of day. It seems like Pixar has now taken up the banner when it comes to really tight storytelling.... Disney has resorted to eye-candy and sometimes not even then... 
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HareTrinity Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I haven't thought too badly of Disney lately, but this film was a big let-down for me. :/ I enjoyed it up until Hans saved Elsa's life, and then... Well. Not good. I didn't like Kristoff, I never saw him grow closer to Anna, I found Hans' change unconvincing, and the "duh, love thaws!" ending was... What?

Sven, Elsa, and the sisterly love are about the only things that stayed consistently good for me! Still, I guess that could be worse.
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Haha, I agree! The plot holes were big enough to drive a Mac truck through.

But movie asides, what do you think of the art? :XD:
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ColonelLiamRoss Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2013  Professional Artisan Crafter
You know, I liked the whole Scandinavian aesthetic - I thought it worked well within the context of the story. That being said, the girls' faces drove me crazy (you call that a nose?!) and the guys weren't much better, though I appreciated Kristoff's man-of-the-woods shtick in that he wasn't your overly groomed Disney male love-interest. It was pretty, for sure, but I still miss Disney's classic hand-drawn stuff...

Too bad Disney wasn't into director's cuts since it could be a fairly tight film with all the plot-holes filled up. Or at least more interesting... Also, less Anna, kthx.
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
I liked the whole Scandinavian aesthetic too, for the most part. But yeah, I hated the girls' faces too, and I couldn't tell the guys apart at first.

I really, really miss the hand-drawn stuff too. And ditto about the director's cut. It wouldn't have taken much to fix the plot holes. (Though I would get rid of the trolls too... they kind of fell into Jar Jar Binks territory for me.)

But what would you say was more irritating? The trolls, or Anna?

 
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salierifemme91 Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm sorry You didn't like "Frozen". Personally I absolutely LOVED it, in fact more than "Tangled", but that's just normal that everyone will have their opinion. ;) Anyway, amazing art, as always!
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