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Jacobean Pocahontas by suburbanbeatnik Jacobean Pocahontas by suburbanbeatnik
Here's the second piece in my Historically Accurate Disney Princess series. This is Pocahontas in a Jacobean court gown, circa 1616. The wheel farthingale had been discarded, and necklines had become really, really low. A few examples for the curious: [link]

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I went with a similar color scheme to her court gown in the straight to video sequel, but otherwise there's no resemblance. It's too bad they couldn't have tried to make it look more period-- in my opinion it's quite possibly one of the ugliest princess dresses ever. It rather looks like a cushion about to explode...

Anyway, yeah, I like the character of Pocahontas a lot. Her necklace is cool too.
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WandererRiha Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
XD I saw the necklace! And yeah, any DTV stuff tends to be rather lame (tho I really liked "Joseph: King of Dreams"). They totally should have gone with your design- tho I doubt they'd be able to keep the neckline in a kids movie. ^^;
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
Too bad I can't travel back in time and have the animators of the Pocahontas "cheapquel" use my designs... ;P But yes, her neckline is not very kiddie friendly, LOL!
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lucygooseyy Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011
lovely
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
Thanks!
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Terrific-Tampax Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011
awsome!
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
Thanks!
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somwei Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011
As a history major and a Disney fan, I heartily approve :D

I'm not typically one for Post-Tudor Dynasty fashion, but I adore this dress! The detail of the dress is wonderful! From the beading to the dress lines...ugh, I wish I could favorite this a hundred times. Splendid. And I agree, the dress she wore in the movie was not flattering to her at all. Thankfully, you rectify this :D
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
I love 17th century fashion as you can guess... so this was a lot of fun for me to work on. Thank you for the lovely comment! :hug:
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BloodyVoodoo Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Beautiful job! I love her face, and the dress is fabulous. Too bad the sequel is drek.
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
Thank you! Yes, it is a pity about the sequel... but we'll always have the original.
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CantateDomino24 Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
this is amazing! She looks fabulous!
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
Thank you! :)
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Rosengeist Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Professional General Artist
Why had I not faved this yet? Error corrected!
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robespierre13 Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
The gown is gorgeous. It suits her very well. Nice job!
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
Thank you!
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robespierre13 Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
You're welcome!
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haius Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Hobbyist
WOW, those necklines! They make the Academy Awards dresses look tame - heck, they make actual lingerie look tame. What's more hilarious is how their bare breasts are surrounded by miles and miles of fabric. It's like the Minoans. XD

This dress looks quite pretty, though. And just SLIGHTLY more modest than the period examples. :XD:
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
I know, right? One of my friends said 17th century gowns often featured "porn star cleavage" which is an apt description. :XD:
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temiel Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Professional General Artist
Even though I voted for (and loooove!!) Rococo Belle, I think this one may have turned out even better!! :heart: Her facial features are totally perfect, you definitely NAILED that really characteristic mouth and nose. And YAAAAAY omg that necklace!! :heart: I would LOVE to see this animated, if it had actually been part of the movie I suspect I would have died of joy. ;)

Also, I'm obligated to mention that out of morbid curiosity, I watched the sequel a few months ago, and MAN, it was about as embarrassingly terrible as I expected. :rofl:
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
Wow, thanks! I love my Belle and Pocahontas pics equally... but I do like how this one turned out. :D

The sequel was a good idea, but it was done... so poorly. The English scenes in the original movie were well researched and really cool stylistically, and the sequel just looked cheap and lame. I guess it's worth watching just for the hilarious idea that Anne of Denmark, of all people, was the true power behind the English throne in the early 1600s, but yeah...
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Rouf Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh. Oh wow. How do they stay in?
Gorgeous!
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
I wish I knew the answer to that, since this was long before dress tape. They must have used something though...

Thanks! :)
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Fefe1414 Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011   Digital Artist
Great job! It's beautiful!
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
Thank you!
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ShesGottaPlan Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011
again amazing!!! :D great job!!
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
Thanks! :D
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ShesGottaPlan Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011
no problem :D
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ladyli-chan Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Wow, you weren't kidding about the necklines! Crazy stuff, there~

I think you did a great job on this one, although I disagree with you about Pocahontas' dress in the sequel- to me Ariel's pink dress with the slashing is 30x uglier!

I absolutely love your art and the historical spin you put on things. I'm a historican fashion nerd, too, so I always squeal with delight when I see your latest things! Keep up the great work!
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
I don't mind the actual style of Ariel's dress as much as the color (Pepto Bismol pink-- ugh). But IMO the overdone fussy crinoline thing Poca wears really doesn't do her any favors...

Anyway, huzzah for historical fashion nerdery! :dance:
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ladyli-chan Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Haha, good point there. When I saw the title I was worried you'd opted for a dress similar to the one she wears in that famous engraving- now that dress is a nightmare!
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
I'm not an expert like Aileen Ribeiro, but the dress worn in that particular engraving feels a bit old-fashioned... and kind of bourgeois. I really hope the actual Pocahontas had a few other gowns that she could wear! :)
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ladyli-chan Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Absolutely! That one is horrible :(
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Muirin007 Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
Absolutely fabulous! I love the idea, and the gown is amazing. Love that you stuck with her colors, as well. :)
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
Thank you! :)
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LaurenGreiner Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Professional General Artist
Talk about a plunging neckline! Oh, the 17th century... Definitely NOT my favorite for fashion. But this is lovely. I loved Pocahontas, and to me, she's one of the most striking of the Disney princesses because of her gorgeous bone structure. The colors in this are really nice, too. Is this acrylic paint? It blends so well with the sketch that I can barely tell...
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
Yes, it is acrylic paint-- I paint everything with acrylic, now that my oils are in storage. :XD:

Pocahontas's face was definitely trickier to draw than Belle's. I had to watch the movie again so I could get her face right-- I heard that she was modeled after a bunch of supermodels at the time like Naomi Campbell, but she also looks a lot like her voice actress, Irene Bedard. Interesting!

That's too bad you don't like 1600s style... there were a lot of pretty gowns from back then. Henrietta Maria was an awesome style icon! :D
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WingsandRings Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011
Very nice!! My history knowledge tends to stop after Tudors and not pick up again until Charles II, so I definitely went "WHOA!" at those paintings. Obviously this is an era I shouldn't have ignored.
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
Thank you! I like the early to mid 17th century a lot-- it seems to be the era that boobs were discovered. Tudor and Elizabethan gowns were generally very modest, and Jacobean and Stuart gowns... were not.
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Kusobae-chan Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011   Traditional Artist
ohh I love it, looks so much better than the dress in the movie!
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
Thank you! :)
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Ryouko-Masaki Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011
Wow, that's such an interesting design! I have a sinking suspicion that I may be breaking out the sewing machine as a result...
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
That would be awesome if you could make a version of this costume! If you do, could you show me? :D
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Ryouko-Masaki Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2011
Sure, of course! :) I just finished a bit project so it may be a while, but if I do I'll be sure to let you know. :)
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
Awesome! I hope you do it-- it would be so cool. :XD:
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KitakLaw Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
Ooh...I love this! I also love how you take the time to make them historically accurate :)
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
I can't help but make them that way-- I have piles of costume reference books staring at me on my bookshelves. I think they'd gang up on me if I tried anything different. ;P
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KitakLaw Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
lol - fair enough. I have to admit, though, that this is a refreshing change from some of the original costumes...what is it with Disney and putting all their stories into some weird amalgamation of the Middle Ages and the 18th Century?
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
Wow, that is a good question. Maybe it's because it was because the original movies were animated by a bunch of guys back 60, 70 years ago who probably weren't terribly interested in fantasy or history, and once the "Disney look" became this recognizable thing, it became kind of set in stone. You look at other non Disney animated movies like "The Last Unicorn," and the aesthetic is remarkably different.

But I'm just guessing here. Only an animation historian would know for sure! :)
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KitakLaw Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
Well, it's as good a theory as any. :shrug:
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
LOL yes! :shrug:
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