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As I noted in my last journal, there are some big -- and exciting!! -- changes on the way for deviantART. Er, DeviantArt.  :P (Lick)

The team here at DeviantArt continues to listen to your feedback plus we met with a crew of super-deviants in NYC last month (check out a pic below :-) (Smile) and got a full, insightful download.  Then, we thought long and hard on how to pave a kindred and inspiring direction.  As always, you are the center of it all -- and how to connect you with your community.  

Ok, getting into it, I want to share a sneak peek on work-in-progress (as in not final!) designs for the new Today page and to hear what everybody thinks.


Fella Version                            Llama Version

Hp10 by Leelor     Today-page Dark by marioluevanos   

Our intent with the new Today page is to better connect you with other deviants in a much better looking page (yes, a design refresh was overdue!).  

What do you think?  We’re listening!
  • What excites you about the Today page’s redesign?  
  • What would you change?
  • What kind of content would you like to see represented?

-- A  Spyed (deviantART CEO)


Screen Shot 2014-07-10 at 4.40.36 PM by danlev
Deviants in New York City give feedback on the new Today Page design.

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Ilikmemes Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2018  Student General Artist
DeviantArt La la la la 
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Ilikmemes Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2018  Student General Artist
LLAMA
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TheWhiteLord5 Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2014
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DreamsOfSilence Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2014  Professional Filmographer
They both look amazing!! Oh, I'm so exited for these new changes! :love:
If I where to favor one of them I would go with the fella version. It just looks more interesting and draws you in, wanting to click everything to see more of all the art. :)
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Ponkool4 Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2014
I don't like how everything in the fella version looks jumbo-sized. That being said, I probably won't use the new Today page anyways.
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egoff99 Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2014
I like the fella version, it seems like a larger scope of the important things of DA, which then if people are interested in they can click to get to more of that type of thing right? I like the critiques in the llama version though.
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Krazzulimaii Featured By Owner Edited Sep 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Eh, I wouldn't use either "today" page. Most of the stuff there I never look at, or if I do it's only for a minute or so (e.g. critiques, all those articles, contests and challenges, "connection center"). I prefer to only see deviations, journals, status updates, and all that other stuff we watch other deviants for. 

However, those who do use it, these updates look awesome. Fella looks cleaner.
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kaseylsnow Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
I kind of like the fella version more except maybe less/smaller text on some of it? But they are both good for different reasons...maybe it could be like a skin where you just toggle the version you want? I dunno, that's probably a ton of coding. Either way you go, I like them both. :)
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Pandas795 Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2014
Wait what about just now section?
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TallestNimo Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Since I truly can't pick one, I'll just mash the two together :P 

First, the very top area where you're showing new art, I like the set up of the Fella version better. It looks more professional, sleek, and also you can show off more art to the community at first look. 

Almost everything from the Featured Journals down to the Connection Center on the Llama page is very well thought out and more interesting to look at then on Fella's. Key word almost. Something I didn't like was the fact of how small the tutorial and resource section was on Llama's. This is where I think that the Fella page really shines; in their Contests & Challenges and Tutorial & Resources areas. I enjoy trying new things when I can, so I really loved seeing how large and eye catching they had made both of those sections! If you were to make that a reality, I would probably spend hours going through all the tutorials XD 

Also at the very end of the Fella page, I think the little "DeviantART loves you" is very cute :D (Big Grin) 
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EkoGlitch Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2014
I much prefer the Llama version, however the top of the Fella page looks far more organized and sleek. 
Only things that really bug me is the Tutorial/Resources section, if it would be filled down to the DDs divider and that the Exclusive dA videos section is a different shade.
Ah but other than those two personal issues, the layout and features are gorgeous, especially love the Connection Center and Journals section.  

Hmm and I just remembered, what ever happened to the Discover Beta? Was it merged into the Undiscovered/More Like This features or was it simply scrapped? I used to spend hours with that.. /quietly sobs
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lynucs Featured By Owner Edited Aug 3, 2014  Hobbyist Interface Designer
They both look cluttered and confusing.  When I visit any site, I want to be presented with the primary content from top to bottom and edge to edge, everything else should be very minimal.  All these different sections with undiscovered this, popular that, new this, etc... way too busy looking. KEEP IT SIMPLE and CLEAN.  Present me with nothing but the latest ART, very simple.  Leave the rest in a bar at the top or a drop-down menu from the logo.
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lynucs Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2014  Hobbyist Interface Designer
DeviantArt instead of deviantART, WTF?? I will never change the way I type it, the new way looks too conforming, nothing deviant or unique about, sigh.  What a joke.
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BritLawrence Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
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absorr Featured By Owner Edited Jul 27, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Absolutly the Fella version. I really think DeviantART could use more of that modern, minimization, portfolio-like flow. Please use Fella and spread it!
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saphireta Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2014   Traditional Artist
Definately llama version. Looks well also on bigger PC screens. More organized and the design is imho much better.
I'd just put some line or something to divide better the two rows of DDs to not be so confusing (which description belongs to where).
Except Critiques I'd like to see some interesting tutorials, resources.
And improve somehow the quality of showed Journals and also deviations in Today and What's hot sections. Numbers of faves or comments are not always significant enough.
(maybe if you can make customizable, which sections will signed-in deviants see on their Today page?)
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phoenixleo Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014
I like a mixture of both would be nice! 
Though, having the new deviants module and the how many deviants online being there would be good like it's now. 
I need to think about it more. :nuu:

For the llama version one, if the connection centre worked/(s) like the Discovery Beta that you had, it would be awesome. That was one of the excellent features ever. That's one lover that got away. ._. If More Like This worked like that, it would have been awesome, but seeing everything is never static, adding those features here and elsewhere would be quite good for those of us who browse a lot. The artists' works could be shown similarly to that of the discovery beta feature albeit with the current updated design so users can see at a glance their works. Otherwise it shows no information other than who they are (fella version) and the llama version feels way too "long" and waste of space, which could be done in the fella format with discovery/llama feature that is there. Showing one thumb and putting your mouse over it would say, show others in a transition from the featured gallery. 

Where's the WayBack Feature? I hope it's not gone. 
What about popular forum threads (maybe have the forum rule faq thread there as default over the other ones) and/or chatroom link to maybe depart or community relations?

Are those tags at the top for the fella section in blue twitter ones, or on dA? Are there going to be sponsored hashtag features from sponsors then on here if it's an additional feature that can be used with payment? Will there be a limit on how many sponsored tags show up there? 
I do like the llama's version of font colour for the explore feature. It doesn't look out of place and pop out suddenly and is very pleasant. 

If you are going to showcase featured journals/articles from the portal/footer, do make sure unnecessary content do not go over there. People ranting about themselves in the deviant events which it shouldn't go in the first place, and having lots of users comment on those continuously, everytime, doesn't help in seeing other contents. Nor any points stuff.

The Daily Deviation section for the Fella portion looks all over the place and disorienting. Llama version's one suits well to the overall look. (along with the journal portal works). Do show the DD FAQ, and the CVs/suggesters in there on the right side aligned format, like how it is for the dark blue "View Critique" link shown for the critique module on the llama version. These will let users know what DDs are, how to suggest them, and that any user can suggest them. The overall look with how one can sort of say which part belongs where helps in here with how they are separated. I wonder how long descriptions would work. Perhaps a ...read more feature could be implemented if it exceeds a certain length? That way, those who want to say more can do, and those who want to read it, can, without it being already creating huge gaps in default view. It took a long time for me to understand that the text for the DD description in the fella version was actually description in wrap around format. It breaks the reading speed and intimacy and interrupts for no reason. Since the DD module in the footer always rotates every selection daily, so I assume it will occur here as well (for both) so there's no need to address that other than a :thumbsup: 

The exploring tag from the fella feature could be added to the llama section at the footer I suppose. But do not like how the fella one has some images scattered throughout. It looks disorienting, and not in the level the rest is (also big text is overwhelming rather than making me interested in them). 

The poll section on the fella one looks like another one of those white jarring advertisements/deviations and feels out of place. More in line with the llama one would be good. But shorter like the fella one with the green button.  

Move the Resources/Tutorials feature from the fella to the llama version as well. :P

I wonder if it will be like endless scroll feature or not to an extent. No in-module scroll though. Although, let it not be infinite scroll. 

But I like the way it shows the "how often do you work your octopus" and the other GoT feature in the fella version. It kind of blends with how the well curated depth radius is released. The What's Hot for the fella version looks similar to the cgsociety header look with the mosaic, and it works better since it's not too large and overwhelming like the llama version. You already have large version showcased for Daily Deviations, so keep it only for that. So + point for the fella version. Do make it organized and such like the llama version. But put flair on it like the fella version. It's an art site after all! You can have your cupcake and the cupcake wrapper as well (they have the edible kinds now!) 

I would also suggest showing some of the Help Desk announcements that occurs in there, or rather, a link to go from there for example. 

I like the font size for "What's Hot" in the llama version but don't like the ALL CAPITALS in there, and doing it like regular one like the fella one would suit better. No all capitals. 

I do hope most if not all the contents will likely change from day to day. It's after all the "Today" page, and that would mean what's happening today. Adding those New users, last second favourites, online users would work along those lines since most of these aren't available anywhere else. 

You could maybe have the world feature somewhere here, as a tag maybe...? -the image itself loading and what not would be bad for various internet users with different speeds. 

Also, if it's something which you want users to see (new and old) to see stuff, could perhaps implement the channels feature here (I will love that thing!). 

llama critiques: I like it. Already indicated above, how to use it for the DD one. 

I assume the Contest section would showcase official DA (now that's what it is no?) contests? The Fella one does make me, as a viewer more interested in it than the llama one. 
On another note, since new deviants will likely come here a lot, for the video section, you could create another video that welcomes new deviants, showcases various aspects of the site (rules, where to get help, how to browse, etc). Make it sort of a series if that's what is needed (with a left/right arrow feature like the polls have in the footer to see the other ones). That would surely help the newcomers a lot, even amongst everything that's in the page. And those would additionally be a good way to send to new deviants as well. Win-win. 

Is there any way to make things less cluttered but less space wasting and more refreshing? :lol:
I don't know what else I wanted to say. But maybe more later. Hopefully I didn't go all over the place :'D
Ignore any spelling errors, yadda yadda and early apologies. 


To sum up in a deviation, 
Bring Order Upon Chaos
Order Upon Chaos by TomScholes
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JoyfullJuneBug Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014
wow to both Clone 
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DeviBrigard Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2014
I much prefer the llama version, because there are clear distinctions between the various parts.
Looking at the Fella version, I just get lost. Everything seems too big, except the thumbnails at the top which seem too small.

Everywhere the hashtags confuse me.
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sheorun Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2014  Student General Artist
for me the llame version feels more like deviantart :)
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PizzaPotatoNBacon Featured By Owner Edited Jul 18, 2014  Student General Artist
I apologize for any profanity in advance, but I promise that I mean well in my comment. :nod:

Fella:

Great composition, and I'm digging the minimalism. Consistent in font choices as far as I can tell. An indication of changing sections would be nice, since the only sections that seem to have a border or own block to differentiate it from all the others are the Browse section, and the Connection Center. And while the change in content would be hint enough, consistency never hurt anyone. ;)

The Browse Section is dynamic, yet somehow fits in with the rest of the page.

I dread the layout of the Daily Deviation section though. :iconmingnoplz: I can barely look at the work in question with all that huge ass text around it. :icondisappointplz: Llama Version's Daily Deviation section is much, much better.

Oh it's fantastic — HOLY SHIET EUGH THAT DAILY DEVIATION SECTION GET IT OUT WHAT THE FU:icondafuckmanplz: First off, please don't separate parts of the Journal section, especially with the stupid Daily Deviation portion. :stare: Otherwise, it's pretty great. :lol: Really dig the Featured Collection's layout and design, though I'd put it at the last part of the Journal section. I wish this version's Journal section also had the Journal Portal (the popular journals— the ones on the footer), perhaps above or beside the previous featured journals. One more thing: I really prefer the layout of the Featured Artist portion. Directs more attention to the art, and the artist in question.

The Poll Section would be perfect for me, if the Vote button actually matched the rest of the simple, minimal design of the page. :faint:

The Connection Center in this version doesn't reveal much about the artists. While I enjoy the bigger number of artists featured, and the simple layout, it doesn't show or say something about the artists' work at all. :no:

I like this version's Contests & Challenges Section more visually. It catches attention well.

The Resources & Tutorials section has more options of resources and/or tutorials to chose from, and that's great. :thumbsup:

The last section, I can't quite tell what it is, but even with the closer color value, I don't like how huge the text is, especially if it's supposed to be a longer message.

Overall, it could use work especially with that Daily Deviation section, for the love of--, but it's design and structure are really dynamic.




Llama:

It has a more traditional, familiar look, that still possesses some newer elements in the design. That said, some parts are plain in comparison to the Fella Version's design. And that separation between sections. :icondatassplz: I enjoy the font choices with this one too. :la: While the structure and layout seems less dynamic, it is still gorgeous in its uniformity.

Not sure why there's no option for this "Browse" portion, if you can call it that. :confused: While it's nice to see what's trending, some of us like the benefit of an option. I, for one, would rather see what's on the Undiscovered page. While I can go to the whole Undiscovered page (and leave the Today page, or open a new tab), it'll save me time to get what I want to see right then and there, and quickly continue my Today browsing experience if nothing catches my eye.

Nice and clean layout for the Journal Section. The Poll Section matches the rest of the layout. :B I liked the idea of a Featured Collection from the other version, though. :|

In spite of the added number of the deviations featured in one go, this Daily Deviation section is perfect in comparison. The description is well-sized, thank goodness. :happycry:

The Connection Center features just enough information to provide artists with a decent feature. :dummy:

Critiques Section, you say? Epic win. :la:

The Contests & Challenges Section has a bit more inclusion (not to mention it features contests from regular members of the community).

Huh, not much of a Resources & Tutorial Section. :noes: Would like more inclusion of featured resources and tutorials, but the design of the featured video is not so bad. :iconnotbadplz:

In terms of design elements (e.g. color scheme, backgrounds, borders, buttons) it's kind of drab, but its structure and layout is fantastic. :clap:




Both are better than the other in one fundamental way, but both of them would match the site and benefit the artists featured. :nod: Heck, it'd be cool to mix them up together, because they're both so good. :XD: The option to switch between versions would be neat too.

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zilla774 Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014  Professional Interface Designer
great feedback! thanks :)
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Archiblitz Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Whatever the fact is, they both look fancy and unique idea for pages!
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Adrien-Fish Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Professional
Llama version is better :D
It's hard to explain, but the other version is "not like DeviantArt"... I don't know if the designer tried to implement some flat design ideas, but with the actual "DA Green" it doesn't work very well (Plus : Why does it enlarge the font at 1600px) ^^;
If the today page become customizable, the result could be beyond awesome :clap:

Btw, I noticed a spinner at the end of the Llama version, does that mean the page will be infinite ??? Or could it only load more contents in a category : When you clic "More Daily Deviations", "More Critiques" or "More Contests & Challenes".

Anyway, good work !
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zilla774 Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014  Professional Interface Designer
yes, we're considering this page to be infinite scroll in some regards. A tthe very least it would iteratively load the page on demand as you scroll. Perhaps you'd only see a day's content at a time, perhaps you'd see a day, then scroll to see yesterday etc etc. :)
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Adrien-Fish Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014  Professional
Ah that's cool :)
I'm not totally against the infinite scroll, since many people love using it for their Tumblr (or other news websites)... But I think it doesn't help getting a website consistent.
For example, when I see new contests almost every days, I wonder how it's technically possible to give them the right attention they deserve. And with all awesome contents people submit every days, I fear the page will turn into something like the www.latimes.com

The new Today page will be a great opportunity for DA, because after all it could become some kind of "DailyArt Magazine", and one of our favorite place here. But a popular magazines involve many contributors / writers : So don't forget all the ingredients.
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Egil21 Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014
I prefer the Llama Version :nod:
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Fella version pros: It's easy to read. Organized layout.
Fella version cons: It's too big. :o (Eek) I loathe reading any page on any site that's "too much in my face" and tend to leave because of it.  Nuu 


Llama version pros: Ahhh! Ohm... Ohm... A more mellow, not so big in my face, view. Decent layout.
Llama version cons: What the  :? (Confused) It's hard to read the title of categories. OMG Layout needs to be better organized.


 
Conclusion: Take the best of each, combine, results .... #1
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zilla774 Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014  Professional Interface Designer
thanks for the feedback!
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LluhnarDragon Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
I like the llama version in design
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NoidEXE Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2014  Professional Filmographer
I like the overall design of the Llama version. It's cleaner and easier to read. I like the "undiscovered" section in the fella one, though.
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pikadudeno1 Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Definitely go with the llama; it visually separates the sections very nicely, helping to find a specific section or just helping the mind transition from section to section. Plus it features more than one DD, something I strongly feel any Today page design should do.
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Josael281999 Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014
I don't know its look the same.

No offense.
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Simkray Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014   General Artist
I love the fella version, It's a lot easier to understand~!
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Miguel-Santos Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014   Photographer
Both designs are great, really. I like the space and composition in 'fella' and the focus on art pieces of 'llama'... tough choice. :)

Maybe it has been mentioned already, but I'd like to see the Prints represented in there too. It's quite relevant, imo. At least, I try my best to upload high quality artwork for you guys to sell and it should be a big deal.

Plus, some extra box to feature Premium deviants, maybe... just thinking of something special for the 'star' folk :)

Anyway, congrats on the work so far. :clap:
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TehAngelsCry Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014  Professional Interface Designer
I love the Fella redesign! Looks much more modern and accessible - the only thing that bugs me is the Daily Deviation bit. The text-size difference is a bit garish, the line-height seems too big, and I really don't like how the image breaks up the text. Plus, how will it scale for long descriptions vs. smaller descriptions?
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zilla774 Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014  Professional Interface Designer
I like that design too :)

Re: scaling, this is something we would test and adjust according to what "feels" right. There's no hard and fast rule that dictates the size, in fact we might scale it appropriate to the size of the description ie a short description might be large text than a longer one. But the bottom line would be legibility and we would definitely test as many options as we could before launch :)
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TehAngelsCry Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014  Professional Interface Designer
I like the idea of scaling text size based on the description length, but we'd need to ensure that super long descriptions don't end up in size 3 or something XD

I trust you'll test it all thoroughly before launch anyway! :dance:
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zilla774 Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014  Professional Interface Designer
heh yeah, there would be minimum and maximum limits to avoid that issue. And yes, we'll test it, in fact as a volunteer I'm sure you'll be helping us!
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TehAngelsCry Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014  Professional Interface Designer
Hahaha here's hoping~ 
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Kiara-Vestigium Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
fella version - looks more organic + modern.
I hope that the DD would change every time you reload, though, so that every DD gets the same amount of attention :)
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zilla774 Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014  Professional Interface Designer
yes, daily deviation would likely rotate through the days offerings. We would make sure not to favour a particular entry and give focus on the whole daily set!
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Kiara-Vestigium Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
thank you for this reply! Sounds great to me!
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kwuus Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2014   Interface Designer
I think you should keep the community mood in there. It's interesting to see.

I like the llama one more. :D (Big Grin) 
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ZokuneAki10 Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2014
Wow! I never knew such a page exists until now. In my opinion, (and if it's possible) make a button that will give the user the ability to choose between either style. If I were to choose only one of them, though, I would choose Fella (with some Llama features blended in). The look is much more modern and it gives me a friendly feel and the art stands out more. The llama theme's showing of descriptions is very nice. :)
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zilla774 Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014  Professional Interface Designer
It doesn't exist! yet ;) We think this is a great idea and will be introducing it soon. Hopefully you guys will get as much out of it as we do!
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ZokuneAki10 Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014
I'm really looking forward to this. Thank you for the reply! c:
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Sterys Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I prefer the fella one
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zilla774 Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014  Professional Interface Designer
Any particular reason? (just curious)
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