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If someone is uncomfortable with/against homosexuality, is it alright for them to decline drawing a couple because of them being homosexual? What about homosexual characters on their own? (Only talking about SFW art here, so no porn or anything) 

36%
66 deviants said Yes, it is alright, but only if it's a homosexual couple or another situation that shows the character is homosexual
32%
58 deviants said No, that is not alright in either case
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42 deviants said Yes, it is alright for them to decline drawing any character that is openly homosexual, even if the drawing itself does not show the character is homosexual
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15 deviants said Other opinion?

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taurequine Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2015  Student Digital Artist
I have mixed feelings. On the one hand, an artist should have the full right to draw what they want, and to be able to refuse service for any reason. Ideally they wouldn't have to, but it's a good right for an artist to have. That way, if the commissioner is hard to work with, or the subject material is very disturbing, they can decline their services.

However, I think declining to draw someone because they're gay is kind of silly. Not to mention it would likely have consequences, as others have stated. Again, I understand why someone would refuse to draw a commission if it was rule-breaking or if the commissioner wasn't respecting them or what not - that's just standing up for yourself and preventing yourself from having to take work you don't feel comfortable with - but not drawing a character because they're gay doesn't have any social, artistic, financial, or practical advantages that I can see. It's just not good business practice to turn down work for something so trivial, not to mention it just kinda makes you look like a dick (which will in turn affect how many commissions you can get and whatnot). :shrug:
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SpitfiresOnIce Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yea, I feel that way too. It isn't the best business one can do.
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taurequine Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Agreed! It'd be like declining to draw a character because they're black, or female. You CAN, but it doesn't mean you SHOULD. :| (Blank Stare) 
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SpitfiresOnIce Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yea...
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niqbee Featured By Owner Edited Mar 10, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Sure, we can accept the idea that an artist can turn down a commission due to some bad parenting*, but that artist no longer deserves to even get commissions anymore. I'm sick of playing devil's advocate for prejudice assholes, myself. We are very much a part of this world, no one can force us to change, and we are not going to accept being marginalized or ignored.

It's the artist's loss for a chance to hone his/her skills and possibly earn money for it, because that's what it should be about, not petty outdated morals.

*Yes, I am implying that homophobes are the product of shitty parenting. Wanna fight about it?
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SpitfiresOnIce Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yea, I can't really justify people not wanting to draw a character because of said character's orientation anymore, especially since by far most people have no problems drawing a character that has killed someone in their lives - so being gay is worse than being a murderer, or?
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niqbee Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Exactly. Society has this bizarre disconnect when it comes to both sex and violence. You can get away with some appalling, gruesome shit on standard cable, but if a single boob pops out, THEN the youth are being corrupted by the idiot box. It's such a backwards standard. I really wish I knew how it could be fixed, but its part of an ingrained problem with our overall psychology, and that fact is preyed upon by the corporations that control what goes on the air, perpetuating the problem without anyone realizing the problem.
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SpitfiresOnIce Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yea, it's awful... I really don't understand that logic.
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niqbee Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
It's all just evolution, some of us choose to rise above it, and others choose to live in illusion
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SpitfiresOnIce Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
And I don't even mind until it starts affecting others.
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PRsOwnGlaceon Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2015
I always go by the old business tradition of "We reserve the right to refuse service to ANYONE."
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SpitfiresOnIce Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
True, it just seems a bit discriminatory in some cases.
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PRsOwnGlaceon Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2015
Its a matter of personal opinion, I say. If you dont want to do a commish for someone for any reason, go ahead.
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KnightmareKM Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2015  Professional Artist
I feel like an artist should be allowed to decline anything, regardless of reason. Sure, it may be annoying, but I don't feel like anyone should be forced to do something they're unconfortable with.
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SpitfiresOnIce Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Mhm, I see. I just wonder if it isn't a bit discriminatory in a way, but yea!
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Roxalew Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Haha ^^; well they are the ones who have to draw it, and they should have the right to decline whatever they want ^^;
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SpitfiresOnIce Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
True x)
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Roxalew Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
^^
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Hawkieface Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
I think the artist has every right to decline the offer if that's how they feel on the topic. Personally, I think it's a bit far to decline a singular character who happens to be homosexual, but if it's a couple it's understandable. I don't really like that thought because I'm all about equality and I'm fine with homosexuality, but that's just me~
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SpitfiresOnIce Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yea, I see.
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MillenniaTrishadow Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2015  Student Traditional Artist
As artists, we draw whatever we please, however, we tend to forget that. We constantly dislike each other for what others are interested in. But if you can do something, someone can like/have an opinion about something else. Therefore, if someone doesn't want to draw something, they have the full right to do that. No one can tell them otherwise.

We as artists preach about being free to express ourselves so we must allow other to do the same.
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SpitfiresOnIce Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:shrug: True, I just don't feel like it should matter, but oh well.
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MillenniaTrishadow Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2015  Student Traditional Artist
Yeah, most people don't understand that like you.
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Kittty-Catt Featured By Owner Edited Jan 9, 2015
I think they should not be forced to draw something they don't want to, but that is kind of a sucky thing to do
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SpitfiresOnIce Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yea... I kind of feel like it shouldn't matter in some cases, but oh well.
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Kittty-Catt Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2015
It is okay to be mad at someone if they do that though, I just think that it should not be forced
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SpitfiresOnIce Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
True!
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SirSullivan Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2015  Student General Artist
To be honest, I wouldn't be commissioning anybody who is obviously a homophobe in the first place, and I would balk at anybody I'm unsure of as well. I'm not commissioning anybody to draw my gay characters if I'm unsure of how they would react to the simple fact that the character is gay.
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SpitfiresOnIce Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
True...
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Goomuin Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
I've nothing against homosexuality and all that jazz (duh, otherwise I wouldn't be talking with you or made Lucy straight lol), but I don't see myself drawing a homosexual male couple making out.
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SpitfiresOnIce Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:shrugs: I see :XD:
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BigAl29 Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2015
The artist should have the freedom to say no to whatever they don't feel like drawing. There doesn't even need to be a reason, if the artist says no than no is the final answer. If the artist doesn't like drawing waffles, I don't feel they should HAVE to draw waffles.
 
I like art as much as the next person, but to impose upon someone just for the sake of a drawing is not what art is about. Unless I haven't been paying attention.

Hypothetically speaking of course.  :)
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SpitfiresOnIce Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's true, but I have a double feeling about this one as it's an aspect that does not influence the drawing itself in any way.

If you don't like drawing waffles because of how they look, that's your decision. But if you would have drawn that same character if you hadn't been told it was homosexual, then you're kind of discriminating based on elements that don't affect the drawing at all - the orientation does not change the character's design or personality and thus it wouldn't become any different to draw it!
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Skkon Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2015
If it's because they're not straight, it's pretty dang homophobic no matter what the situation! There's always the whole "I don't draw kissing/hand holding, etc" thing, but that's not because they're not straight, you know? Though the artist does have a right to turn down drawing anything, this is a pretty shitty reason ;v;
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SpitfiresOnIce Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yea, they have, but that's true!
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DogeDays Featured By Owner Edited Jan 8, 2015  Student
I don't really think anyone but the artist themselves should get to have a say in what they can't draw, or have to draw... I mean, I think it's a dumb reason, and a bigoted one, but it's still their choice. You always ask really insightful questions that I don't know the answers to, though, so needless to say I'm not really sure XD what do you think? 
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SpitfiresOnIce Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, technically, of course anyone can deny whatever they want, but if it has nothing to do with the picture whatsoever,, then it isn't a reason like "character is too complicated to draw", then it's just orientation-based discrimination, so yea... :P
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DogeDays Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2015  Student
Yeah, after thinking about it until 2 in the morning instead of sleeping because i'm smart, I think I'm gonna have to agree that that does sound like discrimination, and i don't think it's okay :stare: kinda like denying service to customers just because they're gay.. it's also a terrible business decision, if it was a commission. 
ugh, why can't things have simple black-and-white answers again? ;n;
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SpitfiresOnIce Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The simple answers are never as interesting. :noes:
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DogeDays Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2015  Student
yeah, i suppose you're right c: 
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MewStudios Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Well it is their time they're putting into it...They should be able to pick weather or not to do it. But if the picture is not showing anything then I don't know why they would decline it o.o
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SpitfiresOnIce Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Same here :XD:
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ThyWordIsTruth Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Well technically, anyone can decline what they please if it makes them uncomfortable, and they shouldn't be judged for it. I probably wouldn't mind drawing a gay character if requested by a friend, or was part of a trade, but I'd feel uncomfortable with drawing a couple (which no one has asked me to do anyways).
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SpitfiresOnIce Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yea, fair enough!
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OkamiWhitewings Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2015  Professional General Artist
People can draw what they want, but generally if you're still against homosexuality in 20145, then maybe art isn't the right thing for you (I've never seen so many queer people as in the artistic field) xD
Anyway, it depends on how they put it: if they don't want to draw a couple that is not straight because they feel uncomfortable/have their reasons (risk of being outed, risk of getting themselves in bad situations because of it, etc) but they aren't against it it's fine, if they don't do that because they hate them (and also refuse to draw someone just because they're queer) , then they're wrong.
On another note, I've been following this artist for a long while and after getting a big batch of nsfw commissions that were almost all gay she got burned out by it because she's straight(see as: it doesn't turn her on at all), so she decided to get same sex nsfw commissions only in certain occasions since they drain her so much. Then, even if her gallery had lots of gay pieces, people went batshit crazy over it, calling her homophobic and stuff like that. Moral of the story: You can't make everyone happy with your decisions, even if you try to put it as nice as possible 8)
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SpitfiresOnIce Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Mhm, art is basically about going past borders and widening fields, so you might come across some obstacles in that case :P
True!
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OkamiWhitewings Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2015  Professional General Artist
An true artist must have an open mind, otherwise they'll never reach their full potential ù.ù
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SpitfiresOnIce Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Perhaps so...
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wynds Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2015  Student Digital Artist
i need to stop reading these comments bc im gonna end up fighting someone
i think it's dumb. first of all, we live in a different time where lgbt+ people are able to be more open and they're more accepted than ever. get a grip. move on, this isn't 1950 :/
also, it's bad business. people are less likely to buy from an artist who's not accepting of others, and when they refuse to draw a queer couple, there goes a business opportunity. especially when it's an individual character and then its more like ??? chill out we get ur homophobic
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SpitfiresOnIce Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes man, I often have that on polls :XD: Gotta stay respectful though.
Yea, I don't get it with individual characters either!
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