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Simdrew1993 Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2017  Professional General Artist
Hey me again, requesting permission to remove all these multiple unused number folders in the Perfect Dark Fanclub then rename the existing ones to something more appropriate. We already have enough folders, they are unnecessary and I feel they are making the club seem cluttered and less professional. If not I understand however in my opinion they don't look good and are simply wasting space. 


I believe these categories need to be removed::teach: 

Classic Jo 2

Classic Jo 3

Zero Jo 2

Zero Jo 3

Not Jo 2

Not Jo 3

Armory 2

Armory 3

Cosplay 2

Cosplay 3

Fun 2 

Fun 3

M for Mature 2

M for Mature 3

Photo Manipulation and Design 2

Photo and Manipulation and Design 3

Crossovers and OC's 2

Crossovers and OC's 3

Extra 2

EXtra 3


Existing Folders would be renamed as such:

Classic Jo

Dark Zero Jo

Not Jo - Other Characters

Armory - Weapons and Gear

Cosplay - Obtain Your Disguise


M - For Mature

Photo Manipulation and Design

Crossovers and OC's



Let me know what you think about these ideas, Thanks. Keep Smiling 
southpawper Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks for the concern!

The reason why I made so many folders is that when I made the group, I wanted it to be future-proofed and laid back, so that it would require as little activity and moderation from me as possible. I want it to be a group that someone can always come back to whenever they feel like, and that they don't have to stay current with everything or try to keep things active constantly or get overwhelmed. Say I get very motivated during one or two years and I stay on top of keeping folders organized and tight while adding more fanart to the gallery, but maybe the next few years I lose motivation and just stop checking the group altogether, or God forbid I pass away or lose my internet access suddenly before I can hand the keys off to someone else.

Normally with most groups you would just add one or two extra folders just in case, and then carefully moderate and organize all the fanart so it's nice and compact. But I'm trying to think 2, 3, even 4 or more decades from now where there might be another Perfect Dark game or Reboot from Rare or Microsoft or whatever company gets the rights to the franchise, and I want to make sure there's enough space for fanart at that time even if I'm not around. Right now everything is slow, but we don't know when another PD game might show up and I also don't know if I'll still be around keeping tabs on everything since life can get busy.

I don't want it to be like other groups where they try to keep things active for maybe 4 or 5 years, and then everyone loses motivation to keep things going and then you never hear from them when the folders get full. So then their group is essentially dead since no more new fanart can be added, or maybe new users don't have permission to upload anything because it needs to be checked and filtered by one of the admins. There was another Perfect Dark group before this one and I wasn't able to make contact with the admins because they no longer updated or checked in. In fact I also had this problem with the Quest 64 group where I couldn't share my fanart with them because only the admins could approve it, and none of them had checked back with the group in years.

To be honest, sometimes I get worried there might not be enough extra folders. We don't know if Rare might do a reboot and it could be so good it becomes the next Halo or Call of Duty and then we get an overwhelming burst of fanart. As of right now, you are consistently the most active member in this group. But would you be able to keep checking back in say 10 or 20 more years to make sure we still have space for people to add more fanart? I've asked other members if they wanted to become admins and no one else wants to, so basically you would be doing most of the work. I don't want to pressure you or anyone else with this so that's why I decided to set it up this way. It probably sounds a little ridiculous and too far-fetched but this is the kind of stuff I'm worried about. I don't want it to get to the point where we give ownership of the group to someone else, then they change things for the better and stay active for a while, but then get bored after a few years, and then the folders get full and no one can contact them or make changes. So adding lots of extra folders the way it is now helps with this. It's a bit messy and bloated for such a slow and small group, but I'd rather have more space than not enough of it.

In an ideal world, I'd agree with you on cutting down the folders, but I feel like this would just make life easier for everyone even if it looks a little unprofessional and disorganized. I hope that makes sense. Sorry for the long essay lol. ^^;
Simdrew1993 Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2017  Professional General Artist
My pleasure. Thank you for hearing me out.

I see.  

Hmm, 65. What If... with how things are looking I don't know if Microsoft will ever allow another PD game sounds like they've been shoving Rares ideas out of the park for some time now it's honestly starting to tick me off. I hope they do, Perfect Dark is one of the best franchises out there. That's understandable. Nod revamp 

No, that wouldn't be good at all if our group were like that. Really? Confused I didn't know that, I thought we were the first. Interesting. :wonder: This problem is actually very common within the deviantART community as many users leave, disappear without a trace, abandon their stations..etc.

Hmm perhaps though I think there is, even still can't we always add more later when the time is right? The way I look at it is if you had the money and bought four cars when you only needed one wouldn't that be simply a waste of money and space. We need to focus on things presently as they are, we can't always just focus on what-if's or a future that may or may not happen, though I agree it's good to prepare sometimes. If Rare did do that it'd be a dream come true lol. :D I don't even know if I'll be alive in 10 to 20 yrs.. that's a long time.  :confused: :confused If I'm around then probably, Um that's a rather big question to ask someone none of us know the future that's in store if I'm around and still on DeviantART then sure I'll try my best to help you keep the fanclub going, Smile for KashaPaw something this big I simply cannot make promises for as I don't know what time has planned for me. If I knew the future then I could give you a definite answer so as your friend I apologize. I've been an admin before of a group, they have alot of active admins though so I left as life got busy, my position there is always open though in case I want to go back. Your concerns are valid. I hear you.

Right, in the long run maybe so. Still I'm sure it probably confuses some members seeing so many folders and clutter. It's alright, I'm sure you probably feel better getting your concerns out there. I don't like it although I'm not completely against the idea since this is so important to you, if this is what you think is best then as your friend I respect your decision nonetheless. :paww: 
Simdrew1993 Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2017  Professional General Artist
Happy Late Birthday! :D

:awesome: For a birthday present for you here's this... Discovered a new Perfect Dark glitch, two in fact....lets just say they are crazy!!!  Crazy  First one was to make Elvis pure evil Tard OMG Emote in pelagic 2....both of these tricks occur in Counter-Op mode... have the counter-player attack him in special or Perfect agent difficulty after Jo meets up with him in the glass room at the bottom floor, and have Joanna near him, he will eventually get aggravated and then decide to go senile and become  pure evil and betray Jo, attacking her...if he punches you it's like instant death, he punched me and I died....Oh Noes  he will attack anyone thus becoming the ultimate villain! My other discovered glitch is in Air Force One again, you know how I discovered you could kill Trent before...well I found out that you can make him join Joanna's team like the Psychosis gun effect except he decides to on his own and shoots his own bad guys. Same as Elvis, have the counter op player punch him and get in the way and he may get angry... make sure you were able to save some of the presidential security to fight Trent and if he tries to kill them have the counter op player punch Trent and get in the way...he will then bow his head making up his mind to join the good side keep punching then after he kills them he'd be like you know what screw you guys, Joanna's the sh#^

So good becomes bad, and bad becomes good. Shocked nod 
southpawper Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks!!! xD Gonna have to try this out some time.
Simdrew1993 Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2017  Professional General Artist
Welcome. It's kinda hard to pull of so good luck if you do. 
BatboyEXE Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2017
Happy Birthday! :) :cake: :party:
southpawper Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you!
Kenjisama Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Happy birthday sir~~
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