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How To Use Screen Tone



How To Use Screen Tone by SiSero

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Hello everyone!! :glomp:

How are you all enjoying 2011 so far?! I hope it's treating
you well! :thanks:

It's so exciting to me when I get questions from you guys
asking me about the publishing process and about how to
created manga pages! :blushes: it's wonderful to know that
so many of you want to go out there and make your
own manga!! :heart: so to help you guys out, i've created
a tutorial on how to use tone and now *drum role* a
tutorial on "How To Use Manuscript/Comic/Manga Paper" :love:

there are LOADS of lines and boxes on the paper adn it can
confusing ^^; so i hope this will clear up some questions
you might have :)

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK ME ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE UNDER THIS SUBMISSION! :w00t:

please enjoy and i hope this iwll be helpful :thanks:


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tdpubs Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2018  Professional General Artist
Thanks for the demonstration. One thing I noticed is that there is no explanation for the live area dotted border. It may seem self explanatory, but some folks may not know that.
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AralonSky Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
I know it's a bit late, but sometimes in manga's you see that people draw characters outside the borders.. Why won't that be cut off? Or do they put the pictures a bit lower and smaller so they fit? 
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ElDougieFresh Featured By Owner Edited May 6, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I have a question.  Would any Publisher accept Manuscripts done in Digital Format like CSP, even though it's in the required format?  And if so, how do you submit it?  Do you need a special printer, or do you just email it to them?
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CrazyFangirl01 Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Where do you get this type of paper from?
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SiSero Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2015  Professional Traditional Artist
You can find it by googling it or searching on Amazon :D
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Chiibe Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2014  Student Filmographer
What exactly are the purpose of the dotted lines in the middle? I've looked up a few tutorials on how to use manga paper and some say draw inside the dotted lines and some say draw inside the borders and now I'm just confused :noes: 
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SiSero Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
No problem! :heart:

The dotted lines: When creating a page where the illustrations are within a panel (the white of the paper frames the panels all around) use these lines as guides to know where to add your panels. Panels should be within this border.

Page Number Boxes: Located below dotted lines. This is where page numbers should go. Notice how they are located neatly below the dotted lines (which is where the lines of your panels should go.)

Inner Border: SAFETY ZONE!! Anything drawn beyond this line runs the risk of getting trimmed off when the book in sprinted! So keep all crucial things (i.e. faces, dialogue etc.) within these lines!

</b>Outer Border</b>: Draw beyond this line to have a "full bleed" page (a page where the illustrations touch the edged of the page/illustrations are cropped and are continued beyond what can fit on the paper)

I hope this helps! :D
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nisofeve Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2014
Hello Sisero, I'm Hanis from Malaysia. can I put your Tutorial on screen tones and manuscript/comic paper on my facebook page (with credit).
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mariadelhuerto Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2014
i have a doubt,this paper is only for one page?Then why these people make the manga manuscript in a page divided in 2 parts?www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oezbqf… ,even i see page in 2 parts in the anime 'bakuman'.
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SiSero Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
This is for one page :) However, turn it sideways and it is now used for a two page spread :nod: I've worked with publishers in the USA and this is how they format pages ;) I hope this answers your question! :heart:
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jurc61098 Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2014  Professional General Artist
Question : can I please habe the maesurements of the grid. I want to make the mangapaper myself  :D ( sorry if this comment is repeated, I did not see it appear) 
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SiSero Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Hello dear,

I honestly don't know the measurements to the grid and wouldn't want to give you the wrong measurements either. But you would be able to purchase a pack of manuscript paper at any art store for about $8.00-$12.00 and would be able to accurately recreate the grid on plain paper :) If you decide to crate the measurements yourself, I recommend using Bristol paper or any other high grade/professional grade paper. Anything less then that would not make a good impression on a publisher and may prevent your manuscripts from being accepted. When a publisher receives tens of thousands of applicants a month, they will find ANY little thing to reject a submission. During an internship, I've seen manuscripts being rejected because the author didn't address their letter to the proper editor!!

Professionalism means everything :nod:

Take care, God bless and good luck! :wave:
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jurc61098 Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2014  Professional General Artist
thank you for taking the time to reply! ^_^ also, thanks for the advice! 
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SiSero Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
No problem! You can actually purchase manga paper from this site for only $6.95!!-->www.akadot.com/a4-grid-135kg-i… This is my favorite brand! :love:
I wish you so much luck,  my dear! Feel free to message me when ever you'd like :3
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jurc61098 Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2014  Professional General Artist
*have the measurements
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TysonLaFollette Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2013
Ah! Thank you for the informative guide! :)

Comic paper is unavailable in my area locally, so I really wanted to know just what all the little marks are used for. You've explained it all wonderfully. :la:
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SiSero Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
They don't sell it in my area either XD I Buy them from this site! www.akadot.com/paper-a4-c-31_4… A pack of 50 for $6.95!
I'm so thrilled that my tutorial was so helpful, my dear! I hope that this link along with this tutorial will be of use to you! :heart:
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TysonLaFollette Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2014
Thank you for the link, but I've taken to drawing the guide lines using a ruler on regular old paper, and I find that I like it. :shrug: It's kind of exhilarating to make something so professional and sharp looking on my own. :)
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SiSero Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Understood :) That's how I feel when I stretch my own canvas and mix my own paint. But please keep in mind that I'm giving you advice as a professional in the field. Publishers don't make a habit of accepting drawings done on anything that isn't industry standard manuscript paper ^^; I've heard of artists being told to redraw illustrations on manuscript paper so that they could be sure that the size and measurements are exact. Regardless of what you choose to do, I wish you luck :)
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TysonLaFollette Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2014
Thank you for the warning. It sounds like the sort of thing that bigwigs in industry would do.

I don't have to worry much at this point. All my comics are just for fun. (Well, except maybe one.)
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SiSero Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Basically (it's the sad truth...)
But just keep having fun, explore your abilities, and one day if and when you feel like you want to submit a story to a publisher, you know what to use :D
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Kokoppuccino Featured By Owner May 21, 2013  Student General Artist
Haha! When I thought this was used for animation.. I'll have my fun here. This is really helpful thanks!
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Jamocha101 Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I was so happy to find this, because I had done a frantic Google search before, and could never get any information. But even with this, I'm still confused--not your fault; mine, because I'm such a novice and have no idea what to do. I desperately want to publish a simple comic book--sixteen to twenty-four pages, or so--and I have Bristol sequential art paper that looks similar to this to do it. However, there are some things about this that I don't understand. Please be prepared, the following questions will sound very stupid:

I don't get the general procedure of drawing and printing the comic book. You say that you're supposed to draw up to the outer margin, and I get why, but how do you know that you're drawing to the outer margin on the computer? Are you supposed to have a digital image of it and open it in whatever visual creation tool you're using? I usually use SAI, for example--should I scan the Bristol paper and open it in an SAI document, then simply draw on top of it as if I was doing it traditionally?

Also, does the printer just "know" where to cut off the image? Once you've printed the pages, you're supposed to cut the outer margins and stuff (like where the ruler is) by hand, right? I also don't understand how you arrange the pages to go in sequence, but that'll have to wait until I understand the bare essentials.

I'd be thrilled to finally get some answers...sorry for the length, that's germinated from my thriving naivety. Thanks for your time, if you ever get to read~ :)
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SiSero Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Hello my dear :D Don't think your questions sound stupid! LOL
We all need to learn and questions are the only way to get answers :3

I don't use any digital programs when creating the artwork for my manga so
I'm not sure what good my advise will actually do. But I can assume that you
would need to scan the paper so that you're able to draw up to the inner margin.
Maybe your art would need to be on a separate layer from the paper so that once
you're finished drawing you can adjust the colors of the paper, virtually erasing
the margins.

Yes. The printers know where to cut because the people at the machine are told the
size of the final product and those measurements are then programed into the machine.
For instance, if your book is going to be 8.5 X 11 inches when it's printed and you've
sent them digital files of the books interior pages who have file sizes of 9 X 11.5 inches,
1/4 of an inch is going to be trimmed on all four sides.

But don't worry too much about the printing just yet. Simply remember that you need to draw
up to the outer margins :) If and when you decide to print, regardless, you will need to contact the
printers by phone. Here you can ask them for template measurements to help you re-size your
pages accurately to accommodate the printers.

I hope this helps you and good luck with your project! :D
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Jamocha101 Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Oh, so you do your manga with traditional art? I suppose, then, you draw directly on to the paper. That makes sense; it seems that a lot of comics and manga I've looked at have a digital art "look" to it, and I was wondering further because of programs out there like Manga/ComicStudio, but in your case, you just draw it on with pencil and then have a printer reproduce it?

Is there a certain way to lay out your drawings so that you can create a sequential system for pages? Thanks for all the advice, it really helps a lot. ^_^
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SiSero Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Well, honestly producing comics digitally is more of a Western culture thing being that in Asia the traditional methods are still very much alive and are the norm. CLAMP (creator of xxxHolic, Tsubasa, Chobits etc.), Bleach, Naruto and many more create everything traditionally :nod: In America for instance younger artists tend to gravitate toward digital for the convenience and perhaps to save money ^^; And to answer your question, I draw with a pencil, ink with a quill pen and use traditional adhesive tone to add special effects.

And concerning your last question, I'm not sure what you meant by "sequential system for pages." Are you asking how to lay out comic book panels on a page? If so, the only way to learn how to do that successfully is to study comics, examine them, figure out why their layouts work and how their artistic choices effect the feel/message of that particular page. Once you've done this, try to apply what you've learned to your own work. This takes a great deal of practice and effort but it's the only way to improve and totally worth it :)

I hope this helps! :D
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Jamocha101 Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2013  Student Digital Artist
It's difficult to reword my last question so that it's more comprehensible...to be more precise, is one of the printing papers one page of the comic book, or two? Like, you would have page twenty-six on the right, and page one on the left, so that you can staple them together so that they arrange a sequential book? Or is that up to the printer? So confused. ^_^'
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SiSero Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Get a portfolio book where you can slip your finished pages into. This is the best way to help you arrange the pages in the order you desire. Secondly, you'll need to keep the orientation of your comic in mind: i.e. will the book be printed with the spine to the right like an American book or to the left like a Japanese book? American books = right pages are odd numbers / left pages are even numbers

I hope this makes sense. All a printer does is print. All other details are up to the publisher (which if you selfpublished, you'd be the publisher)
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Jamocha101 Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Alright. Thank you. :)
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izzyaroeti Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Can someone here explain to me how to do a double page spread with these?

It seems very very hard to get the lines in the exact right places, and artists seem to do it so perfectly, like the pages were never separated in the first place... Should I just draw the two pictures and hope they'll connect well?
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SiSero Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Simply turn the manuscript paper sideways (horizontally) and use the ruler numbers on the papers edges to tell you wher the middle of the page is :nod: I hope this helps! :D
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izzyaroeti Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ohhh, thank you! That does help a lot!
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izzyaroeti Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The main problem I have with this, by the way, is the whole issue of some bits getting cut off in printing and the fact that you can't hold the two manuscript papers next to each other, the borders will always be there and it makes it harder to see a definite picture connecting. I mean, I could do it of course, but there must be a better method?
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EchoingDroplet Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This answers a lot of questions Google wasn't able to! Awesome! Thank you.
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UzumakiNaruto16 Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2011  Student General Artist
Very helpful,thanks!!:)
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Yura-chan Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2011   General Artist
this helps me lots ^^ I've been working on my entry for the contest then stop and "thought is this a good story" when over to the wall of knowledge and hit my head against it XD
now where to find the paper
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Akkai Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2011   General Artist
what size is b4 paper?
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UzumakiNaruto16 Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2011  Student General Artist
180mm x 270mm, it says on the tutorial. ^_^
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Akkai Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2011   General Artist
thanks.
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kewlness123 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2011
This is the same paper I just got! I opened it up and saw there were no English instructions lol. And when I went to look for other instructions online this was the first thing I found! I'm so glad you made this :D It'll be very helpful
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SiSero Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
OMG i'm so thrilled this was able to help you, sweety!! ; U ; :heart: how exciting that it was the first thing to pop up!! :glomp: YAAAAY!! this is EXACTLY why i did this: i've never seen a tutorial on this that was easy to understand and covered so much! i had to figure this all out myself with loads of books and asking questions and then..STILL messing up and learning from experience XD 2 publications later, i finally got it LMAO

please take care and have soooo much fun with your new manga paper!! :blowkiss:
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kewlness123 Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2011
Me too!!! This is so convenient!!

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Really? I hadn't looked very much for things like this before. I'm glad you made it too!!
Wow that must've been annoying lol

You too! And thankyou :3 I know I will! :heart:
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MangaWhispers Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2011  Student Digital Artist
Question: If everything gets cut off to the inner boarder with the page number boxes show up in the printing? How does that work exactly?
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SiSero Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
Answer: Everything indeed gets cutoff at the inner border and the boxes are SUCH a light blue they wont show up after adjusting the pages when it's scanned AND when the page is adjusted on Photoshop (the pages need to be lightened by going to Image>Adjustment>Brightness/contrast by doing that, all of the light blue lines disappear, taking any dirt particles and grime with them :)

however, if you're doing a doujinshi in the TRADITIONAL way (making zerox copies and stapling them together by hand), the blue lines will NOT show up because they do not show up in copies. they DO, however, show up in scans XD
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MangaWhispers Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2011  Student Digital Artist
Okay lets say I number my pages using the boxes and I send them off to get published, do they erase the numbers and fix the drawings? Or is it my job to erase the number and fix the drawings? Or should I not draw where the page number boxes are?
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SiSero Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
if you're working with a publisher, you would simply have to draw the pages and provide the script. any word and numbers would be added in by whomever is assigned to adding the font :nod: however, if you're publishing independently, you would do this all yourself :D
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MangaWhispers Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2011  Student Digital Artist
I'm not sure you understand what I'm asking... Okay so I understand that the smallest box on the paper in the safe zone where most of the drawing and text bubbles are going to be. Now the next box is the inner boarder and anything in that box will be seen in the print. What I'm trying to understand is why do they have the page number boxes there? If you number all your pages then the page numbers will show up on your drawing in the print, because there within the inner boarder. Why wouldn't they just put the page numbers on the outside with the rulers? Also do you usually number your pages?

Sorry I don't mean to be a pest I just would like to know... and thank you for replying I appreciate it very much :)
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SiSero Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
I believe I understand what you're asking, however, a bit of it didn't make sense ^^; Please forgive me if I repeat myself or if I misunderstood you again ; __ ;

"...the next box is the inner boarder and anything in that box will be seen in the print." correct :)

"...why do they have the page number boxes there?" haven't you ever seen page numbers on the bottom of the page of a manga? that's why they're within the inner border. Those numbers are meant to be seen when the book is printed XD

"If you number all your pages then the page numbers will show up on your drawing in the print, because there within the inner boarder." No, not necessarily. If you re-read my tutorial I mention that if you would like page numbers on a specific page to avoid drawing over those rectangles :3 Look through a mange and look for page numbers. Examine the payout of the page. Some ppl incorporate the page number into a panel, while most avoid that space and "contain" their illustrations into a panel, so the area the numbers are placed is left white.

"Why wouldn't they just put the page numbers on the outside with the rulers?" Because the numbers will be cut off when printed.

"Also do you usually number your pages?" Yes I do! :D I skip most of my pages, but I number about 1/4 to 1/3 of my pages :nod:

I hope this clears things up, hun XD and don't worry about "being a pest!" :hug: I'm happy to help you!

take care!
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MangaWhispers Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2011  Student Digital Artist
Really I appreciate you helping me! Actually I have not seen a manga with page numbers...I have seen manga like those monthly issues you buy with numbers on the bottom right hand corner, but not with the manga printed into books... Could you give me an example? And maybe an example with the manuscript with drawing and the page number worked into it... Thanks
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SiSero Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
I read a number of manga (Godchild, Wild Adapter etc.) and I don't want to ruin my books by scanning them ; __ ; you might have to re-examine your own books and try noticing a few page numbers :) However, i can send you links to my own pages and show you how I placed the numbers :thanks:

Left Page: [link]
Right Page: [link]

**In case you're wondering why are the numbers floating so high up on the page, that is because this is what the page looked like BEFORE it was trimmed, so I had to place the numbers in the rectangles (seen in the tutorial) where they are safe from being trimmed :) Also, at times while reading my posted pages on DA you might notice that some of the words are far from the edge even though there is space left in the speech bubble. Again, this is so that the words WILL NOT be cut of :D

I hope this helps! :D
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