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A Reminder on Autofitting Shoes to Genesis 2 or 3

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Important update: the method required for fitting V4 shoes to G3F is slightly different. I've made changes in bold text.  Special thanks to jerife for pointing this out.

This is what you do to get them fitting better, as in the picture, rather than constantly having the foot clip through.  I haven't fixed the shaders and most of these didn't come with DS mats, which is why they are shown untextured or with bad specularity.

You need the V4 clone for G2F to convert V4 shoes.  Get it here: www.daz3d.com/victoria-4-for-g…

You need the V4 and G1 clones for G3F to convert V4 and G1 shoes to G3F.  Get that set here. www.daz3d.com/wear-them-all-au…

The Genesis clone is included with G2F Starter Essentials for free.

1.  Load your pair of shoes.  If Fitting to G3 now skip to Step 5.  Do not Autofit.  Convert to weight mapping using the scene tab's Edit-Rigging-Convert Figure To Weight Mapping if the shoes are V4 or M4.
2.  Autofit to G2F.  Choose the appropriate clone, V4, Genesis or Genesis 2 Female, and Footwear or Full Body (depending on if very high boots).
Do not do this step if fitting to G3.  Skip to Step 5.
3.  It autofits.  The feet probably poke through or appear at an odd angle if it's a high-heeled shoe.
4.  Unconform the shoes (fit to--none) but leave them in the scene.
5.  Pose the feet of G2F or G3F to fit inside the unconformed shoes.  Move the thighs if you have to, do whatever it takes.
6.  Now go to the scene tab and click on the name of G2F or G3F.  HOLD DOWN CONTROL, then click the shoes.  THEY MUST BOTH BE SELECTED BUT G2F/G3F MUST BE SELECTED FIRST.
7.  Click on the small Options button on the upper right of the scene tab and choose Edit--Rigging--Transfer Rigging (figure space).
8.  Now conform the shoes to G2F or G3F again.  They now should fit properly. 
If they don't fit properly on G3F after autofit - which they may not, owing to the shape of the V4 clone's feet - you will need to repeat the unconform-pose foot-transfer rigging step.  Then it will work.
9.  Not mandatory, but adding smoothing and collision through edit--geometry--add smoothing modifier can also help.  Set it to generic instead of match base shape if you have issues.  Edit--apply push modifier sometimes works better if smoothing causes distortion (set it down to .1 or so instead of the 1.0 it loads at).  V4 clothes were not made to work with smoothing and sometimes their geometry will fight you.

You still need to keep the feet posed in an "inside high heels" pose to work properly (you can't literally straighten your foot while wearing stilettos, so it doesn't really make sense for the figure to either), so it's a good idea to save some foot poses to library while you're working to save yourself time.

In my testing I was able to save the shoes to my G2F clothing library at this point as well and have them reload without having to redo this process.  It didn't perfectly preserve the giant heel on Bootleggers, but on anything smaller it works quite well (and it still did better with Bootleggers than my own SRMS does fitting them to Genesis).

This technique was originally pioneered by Gilikshe of the DAZ Studio forums, who originally gave me permission to use it in a manual on fitting G2F shoes to Genesis.  It works with many things.
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glistendev's avatar

Thanks so much for this great tutorial.


I have converted a bunch of high heeled boots to G8F. I noticed that the toe tip and heel box are often distorted. Smoothing with the node weight brush tool sometimes helped. But often there would still be an unsightly distortion. Turning off the pJCM's for toes and feet can be a big benefit. DX30's highboots5 for instance wound up with a weird toe wrinkle. Setting the pJCMToesUp_60 to zero fixed the problem. I then locked the parameter to make sure it stayed at 0 while posing the figure.

SickleYield's avatar

I'm glad you found a solution that worked for you! That's always a downside with conversions, you tend to lose the original creator's solutions to these issues (like dummy JCMs for the old figure or the like).

zx96's avatar

Thanks for the great tutorials. I am a beginner but was wondering, if I were to convert some old shoes for V3 to V4, would that be even possible? sorry for the noob question :)

SickleYield's avatar

Hi! Probably not, as those are for generations that came out before autofit and are not weight mapped. The destination figure has to be Genesis or later for it to work, usually.

AndreaPrk83's avatar
Dear SickleYield,

Thanks for the great tutorial! I want to fit G2F sandals to G3F, but after fitting I realized an ankle strap issue (see in the pictures below). What should I improve?

Thanks a lot!

Andrea
Sandal-nofit by AndreaPrk83   Sandal-fit by AndreaPrk83  
SickleYield's avatar
If there are no helper morphs in the strap, I'm not sure there's a lot to be done.  Mesh offset and smoothing may help a little, but when it's this much clipping they map look wrong.
Nicklaos's avatar
I'm converting few boots for V4 right now,I have understood quite well all the steps but I have just one question,is there a way to prevent that the fitted feet area gets deformed because it get too much the shape of the feet?
I mean,I wish that they keep the original form because before fitting they look good and the feet is not poking through but after the fit they become almost like socks,and I'm not even applying smoothing.
SickleYield's avatar
If I understand you correctly, what you do is to pose the feet into high heels pose (foot bent down, toes bent somewhat up) to restore the shoes to the shape that they should be.
Nicklaos's avatar
Yes but there's always deformation because the shoe part takes too much the shape of the foot,it almost takes the shape of the toes.
SickleYield's avatar
I'm not understanding what you mean. Can you put a pic in yiur Stash hee and link it?
Nicklaos's avatar
Hi sorry I'm late with the pictures of the issue but I didn't have the time to work again on this lately.
Here's the link stash sta.sh/2aeyswjzapm
First picture the boots spawned and not fitted,they come with that position,second picture the result of following you guide,they looks fairly good,no push modifier or smoothing applyed.
The disaster comes in the third picture when I move the G3 foot into high heel position and the boot follow the pose but with this bad deformation loosing the shape.

SickleYield's avatar
I can't completely tell looking at the pic, but I'm afraid in this case there may be no help but smoothing.  There's always some distortion converting between generations.
Nicklaos's avatar
I think that in this case the problem is that these boots come in that weird pose instead of a proper "high heels" pose.
Other boots in fact have less distorion.
Genesis 3 isn't so lucky when searching for free footwear.
Nicklaos's avatar
Sure,I'll do few examples.
JWadeWebb's avatar
Did anything come out of this? I'm seeing the same issue with both V4 and M4 shoes. What makes me mad is you see the the model adjust and looks perfect and then two-three seconds after the geometry adjustment occurs and the mesh is distorted. Like Nicklaos states, it looks like the mesh is conforming to the toes, and the soles are trying to conform to the bottoms of the feet.
Nicklaos's avatar
Well thanks for describing the issue more clearly,my english is not so good so I struggle to explain.
Lately I didn't had the time to further trying to explore the problem,so for now I have nothing new to say for contribuition into solving this,I hope you succeed,In case please let me know thanks.
JWadeWebb's avatar
I'm just glad to see I'm not the only one having this issue. I don't understand how people are getting near perfect transfers while every transfer I attempt distorts never mind I'm following instructions step by step.
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Poyntingve's avatar
I am fitting a pair of G2 boots to G3, after carrying out step 5 to 8, I still have the problem of feet poking out of the boots, how do I solve this?Oops!  
SickleYield's avatar
Sometimes you have to repeat the unconform-transfer-reconform step twice (as it says in the tut).
Poyntingve's avatar
Thank you! I seemed to get it to work!Nod I have to unfit first. I wonder why this is soMeow :3 
EverwoodElf's avatar
Thanks for this! At first I didn't think this worked with the Xiao Mei's Finery shoes. I've tried putting them on a GF3 and it didn't work. The shoes always came out deformed or they pointed downward. But I started over from scratch and it FINALLY worked! I'm overjoyed! Thank you!!!
SickleYield's avatar
I'm glad it did finally work. :)
member9's avatar
Will have to try this out.
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