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Pyromania by Selunia Pyromania by Selunia
PLEASE READ THE POEM BEFORE CRITIQUE OR FEEDBACK

I receive a lot of feedback from which I'm sure nobody knows or cares what this picture is about! :(

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Inspired by Pyromania I want to see a light show in ochre and dancers
two thousand degrees in heat: I want to watch them
all traipse across my bedroom floor with their
encore in grey.

Blistered fingers flicking cigarette lighters
to see an orange pirouette turn for me,
my parents worry that I smell of smoke but
they don't know the reality.

Well.

The truth is that you can find me weaving
kerosene trails around the moon and Saturn's rings,
telling acorns and oak leaves to enjoy
our favourite disease -

So I flick the lighter once again and speak
to the blackened walls and singed floors:
'don't fear the kiss of the flame,
don't let them douse the burns
by ~Anatopist

I think this Poem is awesome! All the words used to describe Pyromania build up a Picture in my head that I tried to bring to life in my work. So I kept to the poem as much as possible.
I hope it turned out well :)

Made for the "Fun Fun Fun Challenge!!!" at :iconmanip-contest:
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Stock used

Models & Background
Model by ~lilbittydemon-stock
[link] Room Background by ~NapleGray
[link] & [link] Fire dancers by `faestock
[link] burned texture by *Meltys

Flames & Brushes
[link] Fire pics by ~cikeno
[link] & [link] Flame packs by *MD-Arts
[link] Leaves brushes by *FrostBo

Celestial
[link] burning Moon by ~HugleBunnys
[link] Exploding planet by ~Mouse-eater
[link] Saturn rings by ~saturnstock
[link] Galaxy brushes by ~Sunira
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:iconiamoret:
Let me start this critique by saying that I love your work and it really means a lot to me when you like something of mine and this is nothing personal and not meant as offensive. But, unfortunately, you've fallen victim to me on a critiquing spree. Or maybe that's a good thing. :D. Anyway,my critique here is something that I've noticed in many places- something I call 'quality clash'. It's not as obvious here as it is in most places, but all the same, I must say something. What quality clash is is when a high-quality stock and a low-quality stock are used in the same manip. The difference in quality makes it obvious that it's not real, which is a manipulator's nightmare. Here, it's not very noticeable, but this is just something that I have been trying to get across to people. I looked at the model's image and the bg image and compared quality, and I must say that you did a very good job at masking the difference. But, being an honest-to-God-to-the-point-no-nonsense girl, I just had to point it out. Overall, a very good job, love!
-Amoret:heart:
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Hi :wave: This is for the Feedback Frenzy Week.

Joh, there's a lot going on here hey. I gonna strip this picture appart bit by bit to do this critique, so bare with me. Firstly I like the concept, and I can see where you were trying to go with this. I also think the main model you chose for this was a very good choice and over all you chose very good stock to work with.

First mistake I can see is your contrast is too high. I gives the image a grainy feel, like when you take a hitty picture with a shitty camera, and it makes everything harder to blend. So initially you should've lower the sturation on this image (you can always add mroe color later on) I would say lower it by half way.

Then your flames. Firstly I think you should take out the faestock models form the fire, I think it makes the image to busy, but that's just me.

Then when working with fire, I still struggle my ass of. But I have learned that you must make lots of layers of fire, set them all to different blending modes and opacities and erase different sections on all of them, that makes the fire seem more natural.

Also with the lighting on the main model, try painting selected areas for highlights with a yellow soft brush and then setting the blending mode to either overlay or softline, change the opacity and make as many of these as is neccesary to get the correct lighting effect.

Please note that all the opinions expressed in this critique are my own, there for take from it what you want and leave the rest behind. I do hope that it was somewhat helpfull!!

Regards
Leana
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Meltys-stock Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
This is crazy! I love it!!
Thanks a lot for using the stock! :)
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Selunia Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you :heart:
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NaomiFan Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2012  Hobbyist
Sehr schön :) und das Gedicht dazu ist auch klasse :) Gefällt mir wirklich gut
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Selunia Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Danke :hug:
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ladyjudina Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2012
Amazing scene, very creative !
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Selunia Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you :)
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ladyjudina Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2012
My pleasure !
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ThePathOfDreams Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2012
Hello!!! I'm from #FeedbackFrenzy!!!
First of all, I'll have you know that I don't know anything about photomanipulation, so I can't really tell you what you've done wrong or how you could improve it, but I'll give you my imrpession! ^^
Well, I like the colors. Red and black are a wonderful combination that catches the eye.
The woman's glee is... somehow upsetting. I'm not sure if that' what you're aiming at or not. It shows the maddness of pyromancy, her happiness at looking at the flame burn and her utter attachment to it. I like the way the flame reflects in her eyes. Scary. However, it also looks slightly funny... Probably because of the position of her tongue... If her toungue wan't visible, I suspect she might look... hmmm more serious probably, but also less mad. I'm not sure if that would be a good thing for the photo or not. It depends on what you want.
As for the dancing women, who I suppose reflect her passion for the flame, while they do play a part in the balance of the picture, I'm not sure if they actualy improve it... They seem a little out of place. Dancing passion is related to sex, flame passion... is about flame. Maybe it'd be better if their size was bigger, and they were half-transparent or something. Then we would think they exist in her mind, as if she could see and feel flames inside her.
The same goes for the burning planets, actually, although I'm not sure what they symbolize, other than balancing the pic maybe. Or that her entire world is in flames. Again, I suspect the picture would be better without them.
As for the flame coming out of the lighter... That's awesome!!!!!!!! And in my opinion the photomanipulation is rather well-done at that part of the picture, if I didn't know how lighters work I'd expect it to be real! It feels as if she's not simply holding a lighter, but a wick to turn the universe ablaze!!! YEAH!!!
About contrast: it's not too prominent. I'm not sure whether it would be better for the lighter to be the only source of light, and to have greater contrasts, or if she has already set the room on fire, wo the light is pretty well done as it currently is.
Anyway, my opinion is this: the dancing figures and the plantes/suns don't really add to the picture as they are. The rest of it is a wonderful piece of art!!!
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Selunia Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you for your feedback :)

Maybe you would like to read the poem to? I think it makes it easier to understand why the dancers and the planets are there if you know that this piece was created to visualise this poem.
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ThePathOfDreams Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2012
Ooooh. I didn't notice the poem. Sorry D:
I read and now it makes perfect sense!! :D This makes your art even better!!! AWESOME!!!
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Selunia Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you :heart:
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neurotype Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:wave: from #FeedbackFrenzy team 8!

First of all...you picked the best girl with lighter stock ever. That expression just defines this whole piece, and combined with the red colors it helps push the sense of 'FLAMES EVERYWHERE' as much as having the actual fire.

While I like the idea of trying to follow the poem, I think it's leading you to have a lot of disparate elements. Looking over this piece, my eye doesn't really flow from place to place smoothly. I notice a bunch of bright spots that stand out from the darker ones and can be like, oh look a planet and some girls that are burning, but your central stock is pretty focused inwardly. You could try having the flames actually coming out of the lighter be what's burning up the world and dancer, but honestly you might also be better off with fewer elements just so you can focus on having really well blended elements and also one consistent source of light.

That said, though, I think you did a good job of adding the fire to the different scenes and knowing how much of it was appropriate to have in each place. Nice work there.
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Selunia Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you for your critique :)

I think I often have the problem that I let myself get carried away while working on a piece like this instead of focusing on my main object ^^
Usualy I finish the main part first and maybe I should have adjusted it a bit after I added all this little details, so it doesn't get lost in them.
Well that's what I understand you mean with focused inwardly right?
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neurotype Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
No problem!

Haha, that is true too :nod: I was trying to get at it, although not so much with 'focused inwardly'...bad wording, sorry! I mean the model is very, very focused on the lighter. So a viewer taking their cue from her is only going to go to the lighter next, and the next direction their eye goes in really depends on where the lighter's fire is going. Make more sense?
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Selunia Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes, thank you :heart:
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Mouse-eater Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2012  Professional Photographer
That is some EXTREMELY cool work! I love it! Kudos! A very, very thorough and well-conceived manipulation.
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:iconselunia:
Selunia Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you :)
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peroni68 Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Das ist klasse!!! :heart: :onfire:
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Selunia Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Danke :hug:
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peroni68 Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Sehr gerne! :hug:
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TheAngryMarine Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2012  Professional General Artist
:iconthepyroplz:Hudda hudda huh
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Selunia Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you.. I guess ;)
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lilbittydemon-stock Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2012  Professional Photographer
super fun!
:)
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:iconselunia:
Selunia Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks :)
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HenryValdROCKS Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
exellent!!! :)
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Selunia Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you :heart:
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HenryValdROCKS Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Your very welcome!!! :)
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RAIS1 Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
AMAZING WORK
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:iconselunia:
Selunia Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you dear :hug:
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RAIS1 Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
YOU ARE WELCOME :)
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KarinClaessonArt Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Amazing scene, very creative:heart:
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Selunia Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you :heart:
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KarinClaessonArt Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
My pleasure:heart:
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GentianaArts Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hey! Awesome work! Could you please write one or two sentences why you interpret the poem this way? Thank you and Good luck!
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Selunia Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Sorry I forgot this. Added it to the description.
Thank you :heart:
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GentianaArts Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you! :heart:
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MindSabotage Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2012
Flames. My favourite
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Selunia Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes Flames again ^^
Did you read the poem? It's awesome :)
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MindSabotage Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2012
I've tried :D Am not really a poetry person :D but I'll read it cause you've asked :D don't do it again :P
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