if you think it's porn, you're right..

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I've been here on DA for around 5 1/2 years now, and for the first 4 years I really didn't even use it.  I posted some sketches and seemed like nobody was paying attention...

But that's quite all right.  I'm not at all externally focused and I know that what others think (especially on the internet, on social networking sites) have absolutely no effect on what I choose to do or how I choose to do it.  So you may ask, "why are you even on here?", and that is a good question.  The reason I post what I do is a clear signal to the "universe" (for the lack of a better term) that this is what I have chosen to do.  It's almost irrelevant what my viewers think of what I am doing because I'm not doing it for them.  But that makes me sound unfriendly..  If you like it, good.  If you don't like it, good.  If you get rude or obnoxious or hypocritical, well that's annoying a little bit:)

So during this last 12 to 15 months I've been posting nude photos and my views have gone from 7000 to 110000.  The categories don't let me choose just "nude", it makes me choose "artistic nude", but whether it's artistic or not in somebody's idea of categories does not matter even a little bit.  But to some of my visitors that seems to be an issue.  I also get a lot of "this is porn".  And that is really what I'd like to talk about.

I think there is probably a clear indication when something is definitely porn; penetration, oral, erections, insertions, dildos, etc.  Also  maybe the fact that they are on commercial pay sites promoting their content as porn, or even the free sites which exist to give samples that drive paying customers.  DA is clearly not one of those places, so if the photos comply with DA policies against porn, it's a little more difficult (it seems for some) to distinguish what is what.  I've seen others discuss this topic and some will point to examples and make references, but let me make this simple for you.

You live in a world of subjective reality.  If you think it's porn, you are right.  If you think it's art, you are right.

For example, when most of us look at cute little 5-year old children, we see kids; noisy dirty energetic lovable kids.  When a pedophile looks at the same kids, he may see sexual objects.  In his reality, he is right, regardless of what the rest of us think.  And you won't convince him otherwise.

So, for you sexually frustrated porn searchers coming here filling up your spank-bank, please stop coming to my page with your penis in your hand and we can keep my page porn-free!!

Thank you:)
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better put your pics in much more than one big gallery folder, cose its hard to scroll down all photos in one gallery for my not so old laptop.

WATTENEST's avatar

I fully agree with your sentiments. Just do what makes you happy. One persons porn is another persons art. It just depends on ones mind and perspective. Compliments to all your lovely models and beautiful photography

MichailKirkov's avatar

I liked much the definition "You live in a world of subjective reality." This isn't right only in times of pandemy. But these will soon pass, so this is a philosophy for everyday in normal conditions. Thank you. Great artist!

puddin7777's avatar

I think of it as art take soom skill to do a good photo . Yes I like nude art and I also like flowers- digital art- I like people to do what ever they like. It is my choice to look or not look . so go for it

NotWithoutHonor's avatar
Interesting.  It's a contentious issue on this website, and I think you have a good angle on it here.
DynamoDiva's avatar
Your work is artistic, of that there is no doubt.  Your use of light, composition, choice of models, poses, all the other tricks of photography to create an image, that's the ART.  And really, the media chosen doesn't matter, when you think about it.  A sketch of a nude model is the same 'subject', rendered differently than a photograph, or a painting, or a sculpture. 

Is it 'porn'?  I don't think so.  It is erotica.  It turns the mind to imagining what came before and what comes next.  There's a little snippet of story, a dramatic freeze frame. 

Then again, I never thought of the Playboy centerfold pictorials as "porn", they were again, erotica.  Penthouse, getting closer to the line but still erotica.  Hustler... eenh, now we're getting into 'porn' territory, because there's more focus on the sex than the art, if you catch my drift.  Composition isn't as tight.  Lighting isn't as good.  The models are less beautiful or striking, and more ... skanky (apologies to any readers who were once Hustler models).

So for those that complain, I have to ask, are you SEEING the money shot, or just thinking about it?  That's the difference between porn and erotica, to me anyway. 

Do continue, your art is always delicious and unique.


SunnyJohansen's avatar
You don't have any porn, here.
People are idiots when they sit around, try to figure it out and judge for themselves, thereby falsely accusing others of posting porn. There is no figuring to be done.  The definition is a legal one, and any moron can understand it:
"Insertion of anything into anything and the conveyance of bodily fluids."

Naked in any form is not porn.  Legs spread is not porn.  If it causes any man or woman to pleasure themselves, IT STILL ISN'T PORN.  Nothing is porn if it doesn't fit the definition above.
I REALLY wish people would get that into their heads.
oldcreepykarpis's avatar
So in other words you posted nudes to get more views? What the fuck?
Modele-Citizen's avatar
Yeah, don't look at naked young women and think of sex. That's the main argument of the article.
Pieces--Of--Me's avatar
That's really good writing and stuff, I wound up on your page from looking at a picture you took. Good job.
Nylorism's avatar
This journal entry is simply wonderful !!!
armadillo179's avatar
Powerful journal entry and it stuck with me for a time. Although I don't think "porn" has to always be a bad thing.

DISCLAIMER: I wouldn't describe your work as "porn" and its a shame that some people criticize it with that word. Sadder too that the word itself has undergone pejoration through distasteful affiliations. My personal observation has often been that something is usually labelled as "indecent" or "dirty" whenever a man finds it sexually arousing (which is automatically, a bad thing for some obscure shameful societal reason). As far as I'm concerned, sexually attractive people/ themes/ images are good because they make me (and many others) feel good. Yes of course some people can, and inevitably will, attach convoluted strings to anything and make it out to be harmful to someone somewhere down the line.

Is it bad if some of your fans find your work sexually appealing? I don't think so. As ElDiabolito said below there's no reason sex cannot be artistic. Blond hair -indicates high oestrogen levels. Breasts are attractive because they indicate a potential mate's ability to care for offspring. Curvy hips physiologically indicate the readiness for child bearing etc... At our core we are essentially animals- and most (not all) male brains are hardwired to find fertile women sexually arousing; and it's a good job too or the human race would be in trouble! There is something powerfully primal and stirring at the root of sexual attraction. Surely it's a fantastic and wonderful thing to be celebrated, you and your models have formulated a creative way to present images which spark the ancient drive to perpetuate life, a creative and beautiful process. Everything we do eventually on some level boils down to reproduction. Every resource we gather, every meal we prepare, every social interaction we perform- all with the ultimate intention to either boost the chances of finding a partner or best raising a child. 

There's no shortage of "porn" on the internet, out of 110,000 visitors there must surely be some people who appreciate the skill of your photography and the vibrancy and character of your models- or else they wouldn't keep coming back. All the unique little things about your style and characteristics must surely be pleasing at least some of the 110,000 visitors! Better still, the beautiful nude form can still be an attractive and comforting thing to a man even after he is done "fapping" or "using" the image. The soft shapes and curves of a woman presented in an alluring position (however artificial or scripted) can be instinctively calming and soothing to view. It's your skill as a professional photographer that creates the immortal images with perfect lighting and presentation to capture the attention and interest of a viewer as they drift through the internet- where images of naked women are not hard to find.

Like you said; its subjective and the best thing to probably do, is not give a shit what people think anyway! So good for you! Enjoy what you do. We enjoy what you do.
gunnytank's avatar
I don't think anyone could have said that better. The human body is a work of art within itself its a persons peverted mind that makes it porn Rock on
Bnuldun's avatar
For me, it's certain ones, not all of them, but I agree. I'm a primal man, fulfilling his human desires. 
Perception is reality and belongs to each individual.  Being that "their" reality belongs to "them," "they" also have the choice to click on the pic or move on, hopefully without the negative commentary, if that is "their" preference.  If "they" do complain, as is "their" right, then the reader has the option to just ignore the rant, so easy to do.

My perception is that this is an awesome gallery with very willing participants on both sides of the lens.
Abigtreehugger's avatar
A very well thought out and written discourse on porn and the percieved value of an image. If you think its porn then within your realm of experience it is. So many people have no real idea that they have personal perception powered by 'Free Will'.

Love the Kurt Cobain and the Jimi Drawings, Charcoal?
scriptsensei's avatar
Thanks! They are pencil.
Abigtreehugger's avatar
Excellent pencil work.
Abigtreehugger's avatar
An very well thought out and written discourse on porn and the value of percieved value of an image. If you think its porn then within your realm of experience it is. So many people have no real idea that they have personal perception powered by 'Free Will'. Love the Kurt Cobain and the Jimi Drawings, Charcoal?
irongibb0n's avatar
Yeah, this makes sense.
RyanPowers's avatar
It took me a long time to realize the difference between "erotic material" and "fap material".  My masturbation addiction really warped my perception of reality.  I've made the resolution to stop masturbating forever, for a multitude of reasons.  Nudes still turn me on (in a sensual way) but I no longer feel the need to do anything about it.  This is something I'm really happy about, because I hate masturbation with a passion; I'm fine with other people doing it, but for me it's an addictive drug that has destroyed my life.

Anyway, I digress.  I think there's a definite category of "sexy but not porn" images.  The distinction between this and porn really depends on how it's being used.  If you're jerking off to something, then it's porn, at least to you.  If you're just looking at something and being moved by it (aesthetically, emotionally, erotically, etc.), without feeling the need to do anything sexual, then it's art.
Channel24's avatar
Dude why aren't you famous yet?! You are the man! Your photos rock!:D
tumorfrog's avatar
You live in a world of subjective reality.  If you think it's porn, you are right.  If you think it's art, you are right.

For example, when most of us look at cute little 5-year old children, we see kids; noisy dirty energetic lovable kids.  When a pedophile looks at the same kids, he may see sexual objects.  In his reality, he is right, regardless of what the rest of us think.  And you won't convince him otherwise.


What kind of "right" is the pedophile? 
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