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Uncharted Waters II (Updated)

(c) Ivy Ashe 2012. This image may not be modified or redistributed in whole or in part.

A big thank you to *StarlitNox, *kingabrit, and *DemonikaDemise for all your help and input during the creation process!! :heart:

The entire idea for this work came to me when I saw this image by ~UniqueStocks [link]

I've been working on it for about 3 weeks and I'm really happy with the finished work. This is the third version, the first two used a different model shot from the same stock pack. Here's the WIP with the other two versions:


:pointr:Stock Credits:pointl:

*magikstock Steampunk Fairy(no longer available)
*Digimaree Rusty Bucket
=Stock-Tenchigirl15 Umbrella
~feainne-stock Raging Water
*SalsolaStock Mad Sky
`NEOkeitaro Propeller Rod
*AbsurdWordPreferred Propeller
~JWJjjoj Rust Texture
~SneakyTomato Globe
*syccas-stock Copper Texture
Bound by Obsession GownsFairy's Skirt

=hybridgothica Water Splash
*FrostBo Water Effect
*Ideasplayer Ocean Waves brushes
=Falln-Stock Veil brushes
~farmerstochter Zombie Veil Brushes
~Enchantedgal-Stock Texture

:heart:Thanks for looking! I appreciate your support! :heart:

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Urus-28's avatar
:star::star::star::star-half::star-empty: Overall
:star::star::star::star::star-empty: Vision
:star::star::star::star-half::star-empty: Originality
:star::star::star::star-empty::star-empty: Technique
:star::star::star::star-half::star-empty: Impact


I like the idea and the composition of this picture.
I see the idea as some kind of goddess creating the storm where she is just by blowing on a little earth. It gives a very nice idea of loop in space.
The composition is nice and quite dynamic with a good use of the diagonal with umbrella. Perhaps a larger opening in front of the character would have give a stronger idea of movement, but it's not a real problem, the water is clearly giving enough movement.

The technical part clearly needs more work.
First the light, photography is about light and a good photomanipulation is also about giving a rather coherent light.
The main problem comes from the background, you have a nice storm picture, very dark, very blue with lot of noise suggesting a high ISO for the photography. This mean that an integrated thing should be quite dark with probably low contrast.
Of course this would give a resulting picture with not so much impact...
So you have to create coherent light source in your picture to create the contrast and impact you need.
I see two solutions :
- make the little earth as light source, probably floating a little bit above the hands of the girl.
- make the wing luminous
Of course you will have to make by hand the light interaction on your character, but I'm quite sure you can win some impact.
As a colour choice I would give a warm yellow or orange giving a good contrast with the background.

The space and perspective are also very important, there is clearly something wrong between the wings and the umbrella. The wings should be below the umbrella.
Speaking of the umbrella I think the surface should receive water, it's seems bar too clean and dry... It's the middle of the storm the umbrella is a good element so show this.

At final, it's far from being a bad picture, the idea is nice but the technique fail a little bit to properly express your idea.

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ScatteredAshe's avatar
Thank you for your feedback! I appreciate you taking the time to critique my work =)

The noise in the background is actually a texture I was experimenting with - apparently I need to either remove it completely or add it to the foreground as well. I'll probably just remove it though. That's a good idea to have the little globe floating above her hands, I may try that out. The wings were actually supposed to be luminous, which is why the tips are visible. I figured that the light from the wings would show through the umbrella similar to how if you're in bed under the covers with a flashlight, the light will be visible through the covers. I'm not quite sure where I went wrong there. Also your suggestion for water on the surface of the umbrella makes a lot of sense, although I'm at a loss as to how I would achieve it ^^;

Thanks again for the advice! :hug:
Urus-28's avatar
Ok I see your point about the wings, if wings are luminous and you can see it through the umbrella they should be blurred with light diffusion and the umbrella armature should be visible in shadows.
Also to make luminous, outer glow is not sufficient, you need to have something that give the illusion of the light source. If the surface is the source then the wing structure should have reflections.
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Ah, I see! Thanks for the tips!
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FrozenStarRo's avatar
:star::star::star::star: Overall
:star::star::star::star::star-half: Vision
:star::star::star::star::star-half: Originality
:star::star::star::star-half::star-empty: Technique
:star::star::star::star::star-empty: Impact

I've come over to offer my input as a photomanipulator after seeing ^SanguineVamp's journal for artists requesting critiques.

I like that this manip is quirky and different. Different from both traditional fairy works, as well as what you'd usually expect from a manip with a dark sea background. So the idea itself is very good and I applaud you for your creativity in getting these two styles to work together in such a unique way.

The problems I see with it would be first and foremost the wings. You can see them fully which would mean they're on the side of the umbrella and that throws off a natural perspective. I think a more natural placement would be under the umbrella, which means the tips should be erased. A second problem, albeit less noticeable, is the hair. It's too "cut". By that I mean it looks too extracted and perfectly shaped. Naturally hair has the occasional stray hairs, even on perfectly stylized hairs by professional hairdressers. And lastly, although potentially just a personal preference, I would have liked the glow breath to reflect on the globe, or have it be more transparent, so there wasn't such a big contrast between the 2 elements.

I hope that helps <img src="…" width="15" height="15" alt=":)" title=":) (Smile)"/>
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Hi, I can see what FrozenStarRo means, but I realised what you were trying to do when I saw you had removed the wings veins beneath the brolly, however the 'glow' from the wing tips is too defined imo, and needed to be diffused /blurred slightly. The rear wing being a bit farther away would be a little dimmer and more diffused. Using a tracker for manips is really tough,maybe a usb mouse would help before moving up to a graphics tablet :-)
ScatteredAshe's avatar
Thanks for your input, I appreciate you taking the time to critique my work! Also thanks so much for the compliment regarding the idea and getting the styles to work together, that means a lot to me :heart:

As far as the wings, I've gotten quite a few similar responses about them. I was trying to make them luminous, I figured that the light from the wings would show through the umbrella similar to how if you're in bed under the covers with a flashlight, the light will be visible through the covers. I'm not quite sure where I went wrong there. Regarding the hair, I completely understand where you're coming from, I just have no clue how I'd fix it. I'm horrible at painting tablet or mouse, just my trackpad lol. Your suggestion about the glowy breath makes a lot of sense, I'll try that out when I rework the piece =)

Thanks again, so much! :hug:
ArtByCher's avatar
Overall this is wonderful. But what catches my attention the most is the symbolism going on here. The use of a beautiful figure in a rusted trash can speaks volumes to me. Well done!
ScatteredAshe's avatar
Thank you so much! Even though I have other works that are better technically, this is still my favorite piece from my own gallery. I'm glad you enjoyed it! :love:
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great job, thanks for using my stock :love:
Astrikos's avatar
Gorgeous blend of stock.
Just wonderful colors and textures.
i really love the concept here!
Well done!
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Thank you so much! :heart:
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Thanks, I'm glad you like it! =)
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:aww: Thank you so much sweetie!! I really appreciate your support and friendship! :tighthug: :heart:
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