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There are moments when you simply don't see eye to eye with people close to you. Anyway, it's surprising to see how writers started to explore the dynamic between Twilight and Celestia that late in the show's run. It's interesting to see nonetheless. I really hope that season 9 will feature an episode that puts Twilight in actual dispute with her former mentor over something. I think both of the princesses would benefit from having story like that, character-developement wise. For Twilight to get a bit more distance in how she perceives Celestia, and for Celestia to gain some more relatable traits.

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JNRedmon's avatar
It was interesting to see that sort of conflict between the two; "Horse Play" is definitely one of the stronger episodes of late.
saturdaymorningproj's avatar
Glad you enjoyed it. Personally I still prefer "Celestial Advice" over that one, but still, it was good attempt on fleshing out a long lasting friendship between those two.
JNRedmon's avatar
That is indeed a good episode.
DiscordantPrincess's avatar
KICK HER SUNNY ASS, TWILIGHT!
CartoonMetalWarrior's avatar
There are many moments you cant see eye to eye to with those close to you. That's why a philosopher once said, "Hell is an eternity with your best friends."
saturdaymorningproj's avatar
Hmm that's an interesting quote, I admit I've never heard that one before, thanks for the share :)
CartoonMetalWarrior's avatar
I got it from a British comedy, Red Dwarf. It surrounds the last man on earth (Lister) who's only companions are the ships artificial intelligence Holly (who after three million years has become computer senile), a man who evolved from his pet cat, and a hologram of his old bunk mate (and constant annoyance-the only person this guy outranked on the ship was Lister so he was a major ass to him). He was brought back as a hologram to keep Lister sane. Which of course has the opposite effect. While trying to convince Holly that he should have brought someone he liked back instead, this exchange happened:

Holly: Jean-Paul Sartre said hell was being locked forever in a room with your friends.
Lister: Holly, all his mates were French.
saturdaymorningproj's avatar
hahaha I see, I think you mentioned to me about this comedy on some occasion, I guess I do need to check it :)
templar127's avatar
"i didn't eat the cake!"
MugenSeiRyuu's avatar
"You are turning the new generation of Sirens into a political move? Even after all I've seen you do this last year, that's low..."
"Nothing is ever 'just' politics." 
tigreanpony's avatar
That would be cool, and love the picture.
PhoenixFlambe's avatar
We need that scene soon.
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Doctorwholovesthe80sHobbyist Writer
This would be a great character development! Twilight needs to open her eyes and see that Celestia is not perfect. And Celestia just needs something because she's gotta be the most uninteresting character in the whole series! Every FiMfic I've ever read, even if I end up not liking them, puts more life and personality into Celestia than the show's writers!
saturdaymorningproj's avatar
There are bits here and there where Celestia shows to have some personality but, overall, yeah I can't help but feel that she's one of the most overrated characters in MLP FiM.
I enjoyed "Celestial Advice". I don't buy the whole "Crazy party pony" quirk. I care for some more relatable traits, she needs more of those.
Doctorwholovesthe80s's avatar
Doctorwholovesthe80sHobbyist Writer
She totally does!
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NicolasDominiqueProfessional Artist
W sumie... Twi gada, a Tia wzdycha xd
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FFaUniHanStudent Digital Artist
Oh, we do really need that! Celestia's character in the show is really flat... while Reflection comic truly adds depth to her character. She could be a character with the most tragic backstory, but the show doesn't seem to follow that...
saturdaymorningproj's avatar
Well I enjoyed her in "Celestial Advice" - the exploration of mentor-pupil dynamic between Celestia and Twilight made it one of my favourite episodes for season 7. But other than that, she sure needs more moments that show her to have actual personality and flaws. Her image of being perfect is just off putting, especially when combined with her incompetence as a ruler.
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FFaUniHanStudent Digital Artist
Couldn't agree more!
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BeesmoProfessional Digital Artist
Cute <3
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mistypine01Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Well, it'll happen soon, if you think about it. Family and friends don't always agree with each other all the time.
Twilight's friends had their arguments, so Twilight and Celestia will have theirs spoon. It's just a question of when and why.

Excellent art, SMPJ.
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You're welcome.
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