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Journal Entry: Wed Nov 29, 2017, 7:56 PM



---DISCLAIMER: Note I do know the seriousness of bewares as I am a admin on FB in several beware groups including one of my own. Some of the nonseriousness in this journal is to put some comedy in an otherwise serious issue/situation.---
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Edit: 11:01 12/28/2017

I have edited my wording in this a bit, as it has sounded like I was a bit more hyped than I was supposed to be. Mind you some of it is still there. Because I didn't want to tamper with much of it.

Also note this journal has been submitted to all the bewares I am currently in on FB
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Edit: 10:11 12/03/2017
LTFOL!!! EXCUSE ME I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT I DIDN'T NOTICE THIS EARLIER!!! XD XD XD
Okay so the kid is 16, he said so himself in his journal:
24059051 1524768217605191 2698293469576250929 N by SafireCreations
First of he is drawing leud images and that HAS to be censored according to DeviantArt's posting requirments, and since DeviantArt is United States based, it doesn't matter if you are outside the U.S either you have to still respect these rules.

This boy is under the age of 18 on this site, and he doesn't even use the mature content filter for some of these images, well most of them.
Star Catcher Page: 18 by Shanemister12  Star Catcher Page: 39 by Shanemister12  Star Catcher Page: 40 by Shanemister12  Star Catcher Page: 37 by Shanemister12  Star Catcher Page: 19 by Shanemister12  Douglas's reference  by Shanemister12


Except for one image but it is, but regardless, there should be a black out or some sort of sensor by where you can see the shaft going in.
NSFW Shipping  by Shanemister12
You CAN get permanently banned for what you are doing. And it is DEFINITELY not allowed on this site, at the VERY least.

Also to note I do have a friend who IS 16 and they learned about copyright in MIDDLE SCHOOL, and what you can and can't do with an image. I honestly don't care Shane if you are trying to be a reble or what have you, but it isn't allowed here. And as for the excuse of "Oh I am just trying to get better at drawing or learning anatomy!" or "I can't draw, I'm just trying to learn!!!"
There are better ways of learning how to draw or illustrate rather than violate copyright/publicly post leud images on a art website that specifically prohibits those kind of images. If you want to draw porn (even though it is against the law if you are under 18) then go and post that stuff on Aryion.com. That is an art website MEANT for leud images and respectable NSFW or adult content artists.

Next time, instead of wiping your nose all over what is supposed to be a serious thing, just take what someone is telling you seriously. I have been here long enough to know what I am talking about. Granted I am still learning myself and FAR from knowledgeable. But I am not telling you this stuff to be a dick. I was giving you warnings that should have been heeded. And if you didn't understand, the a clear and simple conversations should have been instigated instead of resorting to calling me names and continuing your illegal actions.

Image result for Got ya gif

I have had enough of this crap I have said my piece and have clearly pointed out what is wrong here. Whether the boy listens or not is up for debate. Just hope that someone else who is more of a dick than I was doesn't come kicking down your door of false security there bud.
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Edit: 5:21 PM 12/01/2017
Okay obviously this guy is pretty thick to not realize he is doing something illegal, or, doesn't give a flying fuck, and since the scared little boy had blocked me I cannot report him myself. So heres what would be best right now. Report the guy, each piece he stole report it, because he can easily either be banned, or DeviantArt will do an immediate take down of the deviations themselves. That is the best thing to do right now.

Also I do thank all of you who helped share and spread this beware! Keep it up! And thank you guys for all the support on this whole ordeal!
You guy's efforts are very much appreciated!
happy cry XD 
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Edit: 3:42 PM 11/30/2017
Are you actually serious? He re-uploaded the stolen image even though he KNOWS it is wrong! XD Regardless if he is giving credit the artist said this was a BLATANT COPY/TRACE which ISN'T ALLOWED!!! Now I know this may be a bit mean, but now I am seriously questioning this guy's IQ and understanding of the situation/what he is doing is not right.
Star Catcher Page: 44 by Shanemister12


Here :iconshanemister12: let me put it in simpler terms, what you are doing and re-uploading this image is STILL WRONG!!! The artist DRUNKENFIST has stated before in my FB PM chat with them that their work is a GUIDE! NOT A BASE. You are NOT allowed to COPY or TRACE the image. It's only meant to show how the artist does their drawn mouth anatomy. Which means it doesn't matter if you give credit or not, you upload it, it is still stealing and considered art theft and plagiarism! Especially when you are using it in a project as big as a comic series!

Need I say more? This is obviously not right, and I am just curious when he will understand and get that fact.


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...well, here we go again, let's have some fun with this one though shall we?

So about say about a month ago. I got a new watcher called :iconshanemister12: and like always I go through and look at the stuff the user provides and found this on their page:
24232405 1524766827605330 5289673734856913277 N by SafireCreations
Immediately I recognized it and went a head to confirm it and yes, it was a clear trace WITHOUT any credit given to :iconshadow-bases: 
Base Edit - Male Naga Stance by Shadow-Bases
So needless to say I commented and he tried to say it was his original artwork:
24232856 1524766740938672 7828411368780527877 N by SafireCreations  24294112 1524766797605333 7160649705086633558 N by SafireCreations  24131276 1524766867605326 7935951196527331427 N by SafireCreations  24293934 1524766917605321 4786851663707667577 N by SafireCreations  24067782 1524766957605317 6929476954530255406 N by SafireCreations  24301105 1524766994271980 3269364326080740112 N by SafireCreations  24129701 1524767030938643 4934295437526184722 N by SafireCreations  24174340 1524767057605307 1009299148316815065 N by SafireCreations 
After telling him the facts about copyright, that what he was doing was wrong, plus a possible beware, his friend jumped in as his white knight to stick up for his wrong doing:
24294254 1524767177605295 10110492931... by SafireCreations  24176719 1524767224271957 2021245981009222690 N by SafireCreations  24068039 1524767274271952 8185446173656654448 N by SafireCreations  24176764 1524767330938613 4610441555921306764 N by SafireCreations  24176736 1524767364271943 8595800640486295810 N by SafireCreations  24058863 1524767410938605 4226191486406710586 N by SafireCreations  24232195 1524767444271935 6374182097309458567 N by SafireCreations 
And that was the end of that. So I left it alone once I was assured that he did credit Shadow Bases. It wasn't until yesterday that I saw this:
24059215 1524767627605250 8518536046866067228 N by SafireCreations

Image result for facepalm gif
-this was the SECOND time he has stolen artwork...

Which I immediately recognized and when strait away to try and find the image it reminded me of, when I found it: (2nd mouth down on the right)
24129986 1524767800938566 5237302345923205321 N by SafireCreations

(...takes a few minutes to compute...)

Image result for really gif

Image result for troll face really
(my face when I compared the two pictures...)

I talked with the other admins of the beware group I am an admin for and they had assured the point to find the artist. So after a couple hours I did find the artist DRUNKENFIST, after talking to them I found out that the piece was only used as a reference and a GUIDE! NOT TO BE COPIED OR TRACED!!!:
24058817 1524767907605222 1389955949560333727 N by SafireCreations 24296289 1524768100938536 710314717744380459 N by SafireCreations
(My comment, also know that he called himself a "Professional Digital Artist" which he did not have a scrap of Digital art on his page that he made.)
24129757 1524767660938580 6984724324011750171 N by SafireCreations  24232842 1524767704271909 6943907862632820967 N by SafireCreations 
1 by SafireCreations
2 by SafireCreations


 
Anyway, as I went through again I found this little gem:
24059051 1524768217605191 2698293469576250929 N by SafireCreations 24294389 1524768244271855 6653997694476022287 N by SafireCreations


Anyway then the rest ensued and you can see the comments he hid here, and even my girl friend :iconrosethorn1483: got into this because the guy was an ignorant child just not getting the point: 
24068052 1524768324271847 920288782022987307 N by SafireCreations  24232517 1524768367605176 1663184994838498905 N by SafireCreations  24067913 1524768394271840 377806308938496672 N by SafireCreations  24058953 1524768640938482 3553582669642320460 N by SafireCreations  24068211 1524768714271808 4687718366038140406 N by SafireCreations  24174593 1524768754271804 4209407044937808050 N by SafireCreations  24232134 1524768840938462 5374583187906935863 N by SafireCreations  24296472 1524768930938453 2159370347904080472 N by SafireCreations
LOL yea that's where he hid my comments and here's the funny thing! HE THOUGHT SHE WAS BEING NICE AND AGREEING WITH HIM??? LOL 

Then he actually went ahead and faved some of her stuff, funny enough? HE DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE THAT ONE OF THE IMAGES HE FAVED HAD MY CHARACTER IN IT!!!!
24312649 1524769614271718 3329548242601679257 N by SafireCreations

Lawl Anyway it continued until finally I had gotten fed up enough with this rediculous, although funny, situation to make this, I know how serious art theft is and I apologize for my lack of seriousness in this matter but this is hilarious how this guy didn't understand his faults in this.
24067985 1524769037605109 3392176832453001674 N by SafireCreations 24067811 1524769080938438 8713212025972423378 N by SafireCreations
Lol what?
Wat by Username-91
Wat by Username-91
Wat by Username-91
Lol don't think that will work there bud.

Anyway I hope you guys had fun with this, because you know I did lol, and honestly I hope you guys have a nice day after seeing that awesome granny WAT gif! That's my fave by far!
Also note guys that I am not asking for anyone to attack or anything, if you do decide to comment, remember constructive criticism on the guy about his recent offenses. If you want to then I won't stop you, but this is merely to inform those about this Shanemister12's two recent and documented offenses. This beware will also be submitted to several beware groups on FaceBook as well.
Thank you guys for reading and I hope you guys do have an awesome day!





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:iconrosethorn1483:
Rosethorn1483 Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Welp he still hasn't gotten the hint from me :/ underage and apparently doesn't care about the rules.

His account will be gone if he keeps this stupidity up :/
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:iconsafirecreations:
SafireCreations Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Yeah it definitely will. It's only a matter of time now.
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:iconkinggigabyte:
KingGigabyte Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2017  Professional General Artist
Isn't porn against the rules of da anyway? Even with Mature content warning though I may be wrong. Since for some reason, they allow nudes here still :/. Still though what is this kids deal? 
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SafireCreations Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Actually I don't know at all about the porn rules XD. Because I don't draw it unless it's for a ref or is canon to the comics I am working on. XD

Idk what's his deal, I know he knows better because I have a friend at work who is 16, and she knew well about Copyright before in middle school. So either he's mentally challenged in some way, or this boy's IQ is lower than his age. This kid needs a serious kick in the pants.
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KingGigabyte Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2017  Professional General Artist
The rules basically are no pornographic content allowed but they let you post your nudes as "art" even tho most of them on here are blatant porn as it is which makes no sense.  You can draw people nakid but no boners or something. 
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SafireCreations Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Lol that's good, because when I do draw NSFW then I draw mostly refs, memes, and some good/beautiful things. But if I have some explicate content I don't like posting it.

But lol this kid is straight up drawing porn! LOL!!!
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:iconkinggigabyte:
KingGigabyte Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2017  Professional General Artist
Be a shame if some one reported them :3c
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SafireCreations Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Lol I wish
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:iconkinggigabyte:
KingGigabyte Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2017  Professional General Artist
I mean someone needs to report the crap out of that kid. is what I was implying. 
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SafireCreations Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2017  Student Digital Artist
XD I figured. But yeah that needs to happen. He obviously isn't learning
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:iconrosethorn1483:
Rosethorn1483 Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2017  Student Digital Artist
If there’s one rule that is strict on DA it is definitely for the fact that if it is flagged for not having a proper mature content filter. It can get taken down.
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SafireCreations Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2017  Student Digital Artist
HELL YEA!!!
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Rosethorn1483 Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Omfg are you fucking serious? -_- time to get the wooden ruler and my professor voice again. Because JUST as i thought he disregarded EVERYTHING i said. As predicted xD
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SafireCreations Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Yep! Lol guy is starting to make me question his IQ something fierce!
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:iconrosethorn1483:
Rosethorn1483 Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Oh yeah definitely! I was 16 when I first came to DA and I didn't do garbage and shit like he is :/

He's too old to be this immature
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SafireCreations Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Student Digital Artist
You know what is funny? This must be my most active beware by far, and ALL OF IT has been POSITIVE and everyone can see that what he is doing is wrong. Yet he just keeps to his little world over there and ignores for the fact he is doing a very bad thing. Lol he is not going to win this at all.
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Rosethorn1483 Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Nope definitely not xD and honestly i'll be glad to see it happen. If he thinks he can get his way by whining and throwing a tantrum like a three year old and not listening he's dead wrong xD


How this all turns out will be quite fun to watch -3-
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SafireCreations Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Oh hell yeah there love :D
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Rosethorn1483 Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Student Digital Artist
lmao I was shocked with how much Shadow-bases ripped his ass open though and without even having to say a single word. Wasn't just the Naga she put in the Rule-Breakers folder.... there was a couple comic pages that used more than one of her bases O-o she sniped him down good holy shit.
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SafireCreations Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Lol!!! I wanna see this shit!
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ShadowDemon40 Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Student Digital Artist
LOL!!! omfg talk about a clusterfuck. I'm 17 and learned as soon as I joined I had to credit people. What is up with people and not wanting to credit?? There's nothing wrong with wanting to learn, and there is nothing wrong with learning. I don't consider myself a CHILD, but I know better then to argue with anyone on a subject I literally have no leverage on. Hell, I have a few on my pieces in Shadow-Base's "Rule Breakers" folder. I just fixed it and tried to remember next time. *shakes head* When will they learn...
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SafireCreations Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Student Digital Artist
I applaud you for trying to fix your wrong doings, as far as I'm concerned you're 100x higher on the common sense scale than the asshole I mentioned in my journal.
Also thank you for the journal feature! It helps to get the word spread about this guy and how wrong this is.
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:iconshadowdemon40:
ShadowDemon40 Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Student Digital Artist
I have long learned my lesson xD and no problem! I'm happy to spread the word. Hopefully his actions change in the future
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:iconsafirecreations:
SafireCreations Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Hopefully. Also he reuploaded the stolen work AGAIN! How dense can this guy be!? LOL!!!
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ShadowDemon40 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2017  Student Digital Artist
omfg, are you serious??? He's making more trouble then he should D:<
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:iconsafirecreations:
SafireCreations Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Yea no joke he did! He really is making more trouble for himself.
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ShadowDemon40 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Kofuku Shaking Head Icon *sigh* Well he has a "beware" on him, next step is reporting if he doesnt fix himself fast  
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SafireCreations Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2017  Student Digital Artist
I would but the guy blocked me. So I'm just going to edit the beware so that everyone knows just to report the guy.
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:iconjubilee-helix:
Jubilee-Helix Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
Some people....
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SafireCreations Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Ikr?
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:iconjubilee-helix:
Jubilee-Helix Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
Probably thought he would get away with it.
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:iconsafirecreations:
SafireCreations Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Yeah, more than likely.
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:iconjubilee-helix:
Jubilee-Helix Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
Too bad for him there are people with eyes to see things like this out.
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SafireCreations Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Yeah, like for example me, I'm an admin of a few fb beware groups.
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:iconjubilee-helix:
Jubilee-Helix Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
Oh really? How's that going?
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SafireCreations Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Pretty good, just a bit annoying sometimes how many people you come across that do steal. It's staggering I have over 20 cases I have dealt with in my time as an admin
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Milkydove Featured By Owner Edited Nov 30, 2017  Student Artist
im sorry ya'll all had to deal with this
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SafireCreations Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Thank you, I do appreciate your support for this.
Also in lighter terms, kinda funny wasn't it? XD
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Milkydove Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Student Artist
yeah lol..like I do think he just...doesn't know that it isn't allowed and now that he does maybe he felt
embarrassed
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:iconsafirecreations:
SafireCreations Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Student Digital Artist
More than likely, lol pissing off a bunch of artists isn't the way to get attention am I right?
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Cor-pus Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
17 years old

Must also be his IQ :/
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SafireCreations Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Student Digital Artist
I agree. But still is no excuse am I right?
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:iconcor-pus:
Cor-pus Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
exactly! If you post on a public setting, you have the obligation to accept that people will treat you as you put yourself out. no one is required to "be nice" or anything like that. You do bad stuff, you get told off.
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SafireCreations Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Student Digital Artist
100 % true to the bone there bud. Spoken like a true knowledgeable individual. You know your stuff there. :D And I agree to the fullest degree.
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6SeaCat9 Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
Good lord... Definitely gonna avoid this guy. I use bases a LOT but I KNOW to credit and link back the work.
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SafireCreations Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Student Digital Artist
I agree, and I give props to you for showing the artist respect. Only a few do that. So thank you.
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6SeaCat9 Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
You're welcome. And believe me, I appreciate the work base artists do. It really helps people like me who are still learning and have some trouble capturing certain poses or proportions... so I always try to abide by their rules.
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SafireCreations Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Very true, and more power to you in learning there bud. I know the struggle, although when I started out after a few faults/stumbles I didn't use bases, instead I actually went and looked at anatomy and even tried to take a few anatomy classes to try and make my drawing more accurate.
Abiding by an artist's rules and TOUs are always a must. And even common sense, but I guess this guy in the journal just didn't get the memo lol
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6SeaCat9 Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
Either that or is just a privileged so and so who doesn't care a Zed...
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SafireCreations Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Lol! Nice, that also is a very likely cause there too. Nice one. :D
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