Is Ralph too human to be in Disney Evolution?
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Wrecks my brain trying to figure this out by Ry-Spirit

First of all, thanks very much everybody for your support on my Disney Evolution series, its good to see you guys are enjoying it as much as I enjoy making them. With the Kanga and Roo one recently uploaded, I have done 60 characters now, thats like almost half way to 150, the Kanto Dex is almost half way there. I have a few ones I really wanna draw that I think you guys will love (Or hate me to bits).

So what do I want to talk about this time? Im not sure if you've noticed, but I tend to draw more 'animal like' characters rather than human ones. For several reasons, one being its more easy to expand my creativity with them rather than just having a human look younger and older, the more odd and crazy the character looks, the more fun I can have with the design. But the major reason for not drawing human is because it would be weird to have a human be treated like a pet/pokemon. The Disney Evolution idea is no doubt based on Pokemon, well I guess first we gotta talk about Pokemon and what they are, in the fictional world of Pokemon, Pokemon are monsters that can be domesticated and trained, for purpose of just having them as pets or have them battle other Pokemon for sports. Its a messed up concept if put into the real world (eg dog fighting or kangaroo boxing), but in the fictional world of Pokemon, the Pokemon enjoys it and wants to fight in order to improve themselves and fulfil their purpose, its almost like they are born to fight, not to kill to survive but just to better themselves in a little competition. These Pokemon are also kept in Pokeballs, which in the real world would also be messed up, its pretty much a portable tiny cage that you keep your pets in for a large amount of time, BUT again in the Pokemon world, its perfectly fine because no one knows what goes on inside the Pokeball, perhaps its a whole digital sanctuary inside that we dont know about.

So here lies the problem, if I add people into Disney Evolution, it would be like having human as pets (Someone call Dr Phil), although acceptable to some? Its a rather touchy topic to many. It brings the issue of what it means to be human, can human be treated as pets? Is it ethically ok to treat someone that way if they chooses it? Is it Stockholm syndrome? Should pets be treated as pets even? Or should they be treated more like friends that we dont keep for the purpose of serving us? Pokemon does a good job in showing that Pokemon are treated as friends more than how we treat animals in the real world (Eating them, riding them, using their body parts to make clothing, making them fight for our entertainment, pretty much if we see a creature living its life in the wild, we would find a way to abuse it for our benefits, oh dont get me started chimchar angry). 

Why am I bringing this up? Well I got in a conversation with a fellow Deviant That-Random-Banana about this topic, he asked if I was gonna draw Ralph and Vanellope from Wreck it Ralph. Usually I just say no to human characters because of my reasonings that I mentioned above, but then I thought about what Ralph and Vanellope actually are in their lore.. they are videogame characters, they are not human. In fact Ralph's original concept was supposed to look like a gorilla, kinda like Donkey Kong. And Vanellope is really cartoonish looking to the point of looking like a chibi doll, and she has candies in her hair that I could play around wit. BUT, they just look too human... And I am not sure if I want to cross that line. It would totally be awesome if Ralph looked like a gorilla, with that I can play around with, making him look like King Kong in his final form, and maybe like Diddy Kong in his first form or something.

So yeah.. Ralph and Vanellope is kinda tricky, I am leaning more towards a no. I mean I have so many other non human looking characters I want to draw so I can leave out Ralph and Vanellope for now. What do you guys think though? Am I thinking too much into this? Should I just go take a nap? What is the value of p if y = -3 in the formula p = 8 + 3y? Let me know in the comments about this topic. While we are at it, I will also throw in some other similar grey area characters and you guys can let me know what you think, Ariel, Ursula, Tinkerbell, Maleficent.

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Marigi245's avatar
Vanellope could revolve around both Glitches and Candy. Ariel, Ursula, and Tinkerbell are all a definite yes, but Malefecent would probably work WAY better in her Dragon form (which I think has A LOT of potential) Idk about Ralph though, but the comments have convinced me it could possibly work
scarvesNties's avatar
scarvesNtiesHobbyist General Artist
I'd say Ralph and Vanellope would be a no for Disney Evolution (though I'd still love you to draw fanart of them!), but I think it would be cool to see Ursula or maybe Maleficent since they're more like monsters.
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BlazingFire909Student General Artist
p=-1 And I don't know what to say about the other characters, but I think Ursula is fine. She's less human-looking than the others (unnatural skin, mostly octopus bottom), like Jynx and stuff. 
15433's avatar
I think it might work, many a kangaskhan style thing, maybe start it off with a smol Ralph (as is usually the case), then go to normal Ralph with venellope, and maybe do something akin to mega kangaskhan.
dogman0's avatar
dogman0Hobbyist Filmographer
I think it could work...I'd like to see how you would make it work.
I think it would be cool to see how you would evolve them like with PorygonPorygon 
Luna6294's avatar
Luna6294Hobbyist General Artist
I would say no because they really are too human. Even humanoid Pokémon don’t look that human (Jynx, Mr. Mime, Hypno, etc.) and it would be like just a human growing up. Although Ursula would be a bit different I think. She’s half octopus and although she has a human upper half, she has purple skin (like Jynx) and her pre/evo’s can be made to look much less human. (I’d say probably no to Ariel though. Primarina is a mermaid/siren, but doesn’t look human at all)
kkcfan101's avatar
What if you draw the person as what animal you think they would be and make that persona into a Pokémon?
Ry-Spirit's avatar
Ry-SpiritProfessional Digital Artist
That would be a good idea. But would break the consistency so prob not.. but i think I will try and draw Ralph more animal like. Like exxagerate some features on his body and face. I will find a way 👌
kkcfan101's avatar
noice. I believe in you and believe in the me that believes in you.
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Ry-SpiritProfessional Digital Artist
i believe in the you that believes in the me that believes in the me that believes in the you
PilloTheStar's avatar
PilloTheStarProfessional General Artist
You could hulk him up a bit.
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Ry-SpiritProfessional Digital Artist
Ya i mite do that. Exaggerate him a lil
daemonlycan's avatar
Maybe one way to depict the in the evolutions is that you make the evo line also refer to the evolution of video games, Ralph's 1st form could resemble an 8-bit sprite or the like, 2nd form is the normal look as we now it, like all the other evo lines you made, and the final form makes reference to how graphics tech in games nowadays can make characters and enviroments look super realistic/HD.
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Ry-SpiritProfessional Digital Artist
Yaaa im thinkin i mite do 8 bit for their first form
melondream's avatar
I can see both sides of the argument, but in the end you should do what you're comfortable with. Or like some people have suggested make them more non-human (like gorilla Ralph and doll Vanellope). OR maybe even make the humans you want to draw as trainers/gym leaders! I can totally see Maleficent as some kind of dark type gym leader! XD
Muuluzi's avatar
MuuluziStudent General Artist
Yeh. I think so..
albino-penguin's avatar
albino-penguinStudent General Artist
Just make the humans trainers or like gym leaders
That-Random-Banana's avatar
That-Random-BananaHobbyist Digital Artist
I think you already know my opinion here. You can do what you want, but I think that a Ralph based Pokemon would be pretty freaking amazing to see!
CrookiNari's avatar
If there's one thing I'll say about this series, the characters you choose are always the middle evolution, when personally I could see them being the final form. I guess it's just my thoughts, though.
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Ry-SpiritProfessional Digital Artist
i chose middle form as more of a challenge for myself I guess, so I can take away stuff and make them interesting, and then also add stuff and make them interesting. But yeah I could imagine them being final forms as well. 
CrookiNari's avatar
I figured that was the reason.
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CaptainLEMHobbyist Digital Artist
P=-1
aleselcapo's avatar
Ralph is a final boss from a game, so I guess he might be somehow legendary, with special characteristics such as looking a little bit more human
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