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I'm on a warning crusade

Thu Jun 4, 2009, 12:16 AM
On my continual hunt for good Ancient Egypt reference book (yay for great University press material that really go in depth), I bought a book online without doing my research as to who the publisher was.

Big mistake.

This book:
www.amazon.com/Ancient-Egyptia…

All its content are Wikipedia articles. Basically, you pay loads of $$$ to read MATERIAL THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR FREE ON WIKIPEDIA!!
Here's a warning written INSIDE the book, on page 4:
"All texts of this book are extracted from Wikipedia.
...
Please be advised that nothing found here has necessarily been reviewed by people with the expertise required to provide you with complete, accurate or reliable information. Some information in this book maybe (sic) misleading or wrong."

Not only that, but the editors did not even bother removing arrows in the middle of the text, arrows that, on the web, indicated that the following word used to be an internet link to further articles. It makes for extremely clunky, distracting reading. Imagine reading an entry on "Amun", and every time the name "Amun" appears there's a little arrow.
AUGH!
There are plenty of other little problems with it which I won't get into right now. These are the most obvious.
Also, the group of three so called "editors" are credited with 786 other books (not sure if all for the same publisher, I didn't have the patience to look)! Wow! Really?

So, here's my warning:
ANY BOOKS BY ALPHASCRIPT PUBLISHING are a compilation of articles taken from WIKIPEDIA! Stay away, save your money!

If you are an author of a Wikipedia article, said article may have been used in one of these books. THEY ARE MAKING MONEY OUT OF IT! Something wrong there, wouldn't you say?

ALWAYS CHECK WHO IS THE PUBLISHER!
I've just learned that lesson.

Yes, I will ask to be credited for that book. I will return it and used the money on my next, more careful purchase.

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On a better note, reposting the info about the wordless comic contest organised by Bolzano:
www.bolzanocomics.it/nowords-c…
Bolzano comics organises a competition for a wordless comics. It is open to participants worldwide.
Some information also posted on the Flight forums:
www.flightcomics.com/forum/vie…

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Will await impatiently for the release of "Last Guardian", the next game from the company that brought us Ico and Shadow Of The Collossus.
Here's the trailer that was unveiled at E3
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqvIIT…
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Last, but not least, managed to get my hands on these two Avatar figurines.
They are part of the Fire Serie, discontinued in the US before they even were released! So far, they can only be found in Japan, Hong Kong and Brazil (possibly other places I'm not aware of, someone correct me if they know more).
I'm currently hunting for the elusive OZAI figurine out there. I need me some shirtless, Agni Kai Ozai, ha ha!

Avatar,toys

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Zhao Lives Stamp by NoSelfControl
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CLUBS
:iconirohs-tea-time: :iconfrothersfans: :iconnoselfcontrol: :iconavatard-directory:
  • Listening to: Trailer for Last Guardian
  • Reading: God against the gods
  • Watching: Trailer for Last Guardian
  • Playing: Waiting for Last Guardian
  • Eating: It's time for sleep, not eating!
  • Drinking: Water
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:iconfirenationphoenix:
FireNationPhoenix Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I just picked up the whole fire series yesterday, even Ozai. Ozai has to be the toughest figurine to find in the collection, I'd been looking for years and finally found one. 
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hero-collections Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2017
where from, were they boxed? I've got most of them but all loose
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:iconfirenationphoenix:
FireNationPhoenix Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
bought them from a military dad that was selling his items for a move. Rogue Zuko was boxed, the rest were out of the box. 
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:iconkogochiara:
KogoChiara Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2009
Where's the Katara figurine?!
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:iconrufftoon:
rufftoon Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2009
No Katara figurine (or any of the other female characters) was ever made.
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:iconkogochiara:
KogoChiara Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2009
:(
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:iconraph1966:
Raph1966 Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2009  Student General Artist
I don't believe this: Over $100 for something you can get off Wiki for free? And how do these guys get away with it? I also can't believe the one "5 star" customer. They must be blind...wouldn't the arrows and distracting mistypes bother them? OR even make them WONDER? Is this even LEGAL? :omg:
Thanks for the clue-in. The nerve of some people...or should I say GREED... :no:

BTW wanted to say again that your Stinz comic for Tribals STILL kicks major horse ass. ;)
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:icongoldenflames66:
goldenflames66 Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wow, what a rip off. At least you can return it. Nobody ever really thinks to look at the publisher, huh? Well apparently it's important. Hmm... good thing I just get all my books from the library. Thanks for the awareness.
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:iconvashtastic:
Vashtastic Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2009   Digital Artist
Awwwwwww craptacular books!
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:iconbruce8331:
Bruce8331 Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2009
I watched that Last Guardian trailer, and it rock my socks off. I'd been waiting for ages for anything to extend the awesomeness of Shadow of the Colossus. (though I havent player Ico yet, just cant find a place to rent or buy it)

Those Avatar action figures looks sweet! I'd totally want the fireguard, his costume looks pretty cool to cosplay as. He he he, pink....who thought that was a good idea for Zuko? OH what they should to is turn the Zuko action figure into a lighter, where the flame comes out of his hand/s. That was be cool....ehh flaming.

Oh and good luck with finding a good Egyptian book. Flameo! (had to say that)
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:iconsuperpower-pnut:
superpower-pnut Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2009
not only pink, but are those bubbly butterflies I see?
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:iconredmagesalyre:
Redmagesalyre Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2009
What! But, that's crazy, and that's not crazy but isn't that just lazy writing? Imagine the people who spent hours editing and writing up that article for Wikipedia.
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:iconrad1986:
Rad1986 Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2009  Hobbyist Writer
I majored in English in college and want an editing job... dear God, books should NEVER be SOLD that are made from WIKIPEDIA articls! Don't get me wrong, good ol' Wiki has it's good points (TV/movie synopsis)but PLEASE, don't publish a book from it! *Hangs head in shame* WHERE is the world going to?? Thanks for the warning; I'm glad you could return it!

~*~ Rad
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:iconrufftoon:
rufftoon Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2009
If you ever end up with a job that demands that you need to edit a book based on Wikipedia articles, I hope you make a better job than those guys!
I mean f%^&, they left in the text arrows that used to indicate the word following it was a weblink! It's like that all over the book.
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:iconrad1986:
Rad1986 Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2009  Hobbyist Writer
*Shudders in horror*

~*~ Rad
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:iconspiegel666:
Spiegel666 Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2009
Particularly given a simple 'search [relevant word] - delete' would fix the problem in very little time. That's just plain LAZY.
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:iconlightangelsky:
LightAngelSky Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2009  Professional Traditional Artist
that´s...just anbelievable O___O *speechless*
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:iconblaze-typhoon:
Blaze-Typhoon Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2009
Yeah, people do anything for a quick buck, anyway, Fire Nation, ohh...
Hah! Zuko have Strawberries and pink packaging.lulz
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:iconlimaria:
Limaria Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2009
Turning Wikipedia articles into books - that's beyond pathetic... :no:
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:iconrufftoon:
rufftoon Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2009
Someone had to do it at some point, I guess. Pretty lame quality of book too.
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:iconcirce-albatus-perite:
circe-albatus-perite Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2009
People will try to make a buck out of anything these days. Lousy bogus book editors. Hope you get your money back....

And do we ever stop embarrassing Zuko..? :) Apparently, not.
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:iconeladriewen:
Eladriewen Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2009  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I'm sorry about the book thingy
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:iconrufftoon:
rufftoon Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2009
Meh- I'll get a refund.
As long as the word spreads out and no one buys one of their publications, I'll be happy.
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:iconeladriewen:
Eladriewen Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2009  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Well I hope that works out smoothly for you. :thumbsup: We appreciate the heads up though.
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:iconwithchy-pooh:
withchy-pooh Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2009
The box Cardboard box has spanish in it.
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:iconsleepinartist:
sleepinartist Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2009
:hug: sorry 4 the book thingie, wow.. is that legal!
hmmm....*think about evil plans*
:evillaugh:
muahahaha- err.... anyway xD

wow those pics looks awesome!!
I want zuko one with the spiky armor *.*
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:icongeekierthanyou:
geekierthanyou Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2009
Wow. That's...that's really lameface. o.o

I really hope something can be done to punish the "publisher" (and I use that term loosely) that's more than just a slap on the wrist, that's a serious ripoff on both the people who actually wrote the articles and the people duped by the fake rate-ups. I don't use Amazon, so I don't really know how it works, but would it be possible for you to assemble a posse to downrate/comment on the book as a warning? I wonder how long they've been up and running this scam.
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:icon626elemental:
626elemental Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2009
Being of such a suspicious nature, I never buy anything online. You have just confirmed my paranoia.
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:iconsenpeep:
senpeep Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh god, that sucks :/ Why are they even allowed to do that?

My lecturers always say that the best way to see if an Egyptology book is any good before you get it is to see how many other good books reference it. (:
(And don't trust anything by J.H.Breasted)
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:iconrufftoon:
rufftoon Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2009
Well, this one just got published so it wouldn't have any reference to it.
Hopefully, enough people will avoid it they will not make a cent out of it.
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:iconzaaly:
zaaly Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
o__o lolwut. That just blows my mind.
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:iconin-the-machine:
In-The-Machine Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2009
People can get away with so many things these days....
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:iconrufftoon:
rufftoon Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2009
Scary but true.
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:iconlotustwister:
LotusTwister Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
LoL, the pink on Zuko's box. XD The dark armors kinda weird though. And that really stinks with the book. I don't really buy informative books often. Last one I bought was when I was in 4th grade. I'm a Junior now. XD At least I think it was in fourth grade... Anyway, I will definitely watch those books.
Not to mention the price. O.o Wiki must just be racking in the... Cash, dough, money in large quantities. XD I mean... over one hundred dollars for a book that is put together with articles from the public. I do hope that they at least fixed spelling and grammar mistakes. Yeah... I'm done rambling. XD
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:iconrufftoon:
rufftoon Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2009
Wiki doesn't make a cent out of these books. Another publisher took the text and simply made a book from it. Based on a license that gives them the right to do so.
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:iconlotustwister:
LotusTwister Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Ahhh... Yeah, guess I got caught up in my ramblings. Well, the publisher must be making a bit of money. Although anyone could do this taking the proper procedures. I'll just get my informational books where I can skim them before I buy.
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:iconrufftoon:
rufftoon Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2009
Best to do that.
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:iconphoenixfurybane:
PhoenixFuryBane Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Wikipedia articles masquerading as a book? I'd say 'for shame,' but I don't think it'd matter much to them. There's honestly little point to a history book if there's disclaimer several pages in saying it could be misleading or outright wrong. It's not like it's a history book told from a particular person's perspective; it's meant to be more of an objective look at things.

Terrible!

Sic 'em, FireStrawberry Zuko!
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:iconangelkate:
AngelKate Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2009
I can't believe they'd even be allowed to publish books consisting of nothing but Wikipedia articles. o___O

What a bunch of crap. Hopefully you get your money back.


LOL @ Zuko's packaging! PINK :rofl:
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:iconrufftoon:
rufftoon Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2009
Yup!
Seems it's part of the GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2 or higher.
Distribute material from the web and try to make a quick buck.
Hey, it's legal apparently!
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:iconspleef:
Spleef Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2009
102 bucks for regurgitated material? Fuck that.

And thank you so much for sharing these toy pics!
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:iconapeman505:
apeman505 Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Egad!! The list price is $102??? I've NEVER seen a book cost so much, and they didn't even write any of it! I sure hope you get your money back! :(
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:iconmeultimasama:
MeultimaSama Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2009
Good grief, that's certainly one for the note-to-selfs, eh? On another note, I thought those figurines were okay until I saw the kind of accessories they packaged with Zuko. Snrk!
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:iconangel-with-a-flower:
Angel-with-a-Flower Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2009
I'm sorry to hear about this...that really bites!!
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:icontwiligne:
twiligne Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2009
the random fire nation soldier turned up here in my country, too.
it made me quite furious when there was not even one female character's figure in sight.
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:iconrufftoon:
rufftoon Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2009
I'm actually very happy with getting the imperial random fire soldier.
The more I have, the more of a fire nation army I can make, Mwahaha!
(if you find Ozai though, let me know!)
Yeah, lame fail for the lack of female figurine.
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:icontwiligne:
twiligne Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2009
if i find ozai, i might be inclined to keep him to myself... :evillaugh:

;)
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:iconrufftoon:
rufftoon Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2009
And I wouldn't blame you.
But, if you find two...
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:iconnicolio:
Nicolio Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Yeesh, people are skeezy.

Have you read The Complete Royal Families of Ancient Egypt: A Genealogical Sourcebook of the Pharaohs? I have it and it's pretty interesting. They go through hundreds of years worth of genealogy and give bits of information on everyone. Probably not as in depth as your looking for, but it's a good jumping off point to find interesting figures to research.
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:iconrufftoon:
rufftoon Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2009
It was definitely a very interesting reference book- it is part of my library. I would recommend it.
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