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Proof of utter dorkhood by rueyeet Proof of utter dorkhood by rueyeet
Problem: I wanted to include Hylian script in my Legend of Zelda fanart, but as it turns out, the Japanese game designers (reasonably enough) based Hylian on Japanese katakana. Thus, to spell anything in English--including some of the character names--caused the same problems as trying to render it in romanji. Example: Link becomes "Rinku", because there's no "L" in Japanese, and katakana is not an alphabet but syllabic, meaning words can't end in consonants.

Solution: Create an English localization of the Hylian script, based as closely as possible on the syllabic script. I used the Wind Waker script (modern Hylian) rather than the Ocarina of Time/Majora's Mask one (old Hylian) because it's prettier--the old one looks obviously pixel-ish.

This deviation shows my logic in choosing which characters to use for each letter, and the final alphabet.

Request: If there is anyone out there who can make this a font, I would love you forever.

EDIT: =pettyartist, I will love you forever. :D Font is here -- [link]

Admission: I have GOT to be the biggest nerd on the planet for spending nearly two hours on this.

Disclaimer: The Legend of Zelda series and the original Hylian script are the property of Nintendo.
Credits: Source material used for this project can be found at the most excellent Omniglot: [link]
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:iconeximiusmax:
EximiusMax Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
That's so cool! This is EXTREMELY helpful!!!
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JSOkami Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2014
You're not the biggest nerd! XD I AM! I want to use the Wind Waker Hylian language for my story, Legend of Zelda: Chaotic Corruption, where one man speaks Hylian. You're not the only one who wanted to.
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EdvardC Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
this reminds me of my brother lol. Hes always doing awesome things like this, trying to make a new written code. xD
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Tahkaullus01 Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I love it when someone puts so much effort into things like this.
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KillerBlume Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Omg ...
I'm german. It's not easy to understand Hylian and English xD
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:icongurt-b-froe:
Gurt-B-Froe Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2011  Hobbyist Artist
This is excellent, I might use this for something...
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:iconcricket-the-duck:
Cricket-The-Duck Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2011  Hobbyist
That's so ridiculously amazing that I sort of want to write everything using it. EVERYTHING.
AWESOME.
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:iconrueyeet:
rueyeet Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2011
DO IIIIIIT

...no seriously, that's what I made it for. XD
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:iconnixteresy:
Nixteresy Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
owo This is amazing.
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:iconrueyeet:
rueyeet Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011
Thanks! :)
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SkippyRulesTheWorld Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
this is beautiful -thanks for doing this :)
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:iconthatoneguy92:
ThatOneGuy92 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2011
This is made of win!
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:iconrueyeet:
rueyeet Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2011
And nerdery! 8D
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:iconthatoneguy92:
ThatOneGuy92 Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2011
So true! I once painted a chair that was Zelda themed. It had the Triforce and Master Sword on it, and had Hylian script all over it. Being nerdy FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :w00t:
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:iconcontroloptioncommand:
ControlOptionCommand Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2010  Hobbyist
i...i dont get it.
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:iconrueyeet:
rueyeet Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2010
s'okay, there isn't a quiz or anything. :)
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ControlOptionCommand Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2010  Hobbyist
lol. i commented a few hours after i got home from school...
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:icontari-nenharma:
tari-nenharma Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2010
this helps SO much
twilight princess and old hylian are,yeah,pretty easy
but new hylian O_o
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:iconrueyeet:
rueyeet Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2010
WW Hylian's just a fancier version of the old OoT Hylian; it's still syllabic. I'd guess this would work for both, really.
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Haayls Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Nice idea! :D I remember a long time ago, I found the Hylian script, but of course, it was in Japanese. So, being the, well "noob" that I was, I tried to look up the Japanese alphabet. I learned soon after that it's not like our alphabet. :XD:
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:iconrueyeet:
rueyeet Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2010
You especially should get a kick out of this: one of my main reasons for coming up with a Hylian alphabet was that you can't spell Vaati's name properly in Japanese. :XD:
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Haayls Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Isn't it グフー?
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:iconrueyeet:
rueyeet Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2010
Um, maybe? I don't remember my katakana nearly that well, but as I recall, there's not really a "v" in Japanese so "b" is used as an approximation. So if you went by romanji it'd have to be "ba-a-ti." And I hate having to romanji things.
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Haayls Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Me too. ^^

It's weird, though. Sometimes it sounds like they're saying a how different consonant in Japanese. Like in the motion picture of Death Note, when they say this character's name "Raye", they say it like "Lay".
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:iconrueyeet:
rueyeet Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2010
That's because there's no true "L" in Japanese either, so it gets pronounced as a sort of blend of "r" and "d". Like how they never say "Kira" or "Ryuk" quite the same as an English-speaking person would, even in the dubbed anime.

That's also why "Link" is "Rinku" and "Zelda" is "Zeruda", in Japan.

Plus there's the whole inability to end on a consonant, so you get u's and such stuck in places where they don't need to go.
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GordyLuv Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2010   Interface Designer
If you make a font of this, I swear I will use it for EVERYTHING. =) I lurv Legend of Zelda <3
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rueyeet Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2010
My friend =pettyartist did make a font of this -- it's linked in the description above. :nod:
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Sasuke2468 Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2009
what about capital letters?
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:iconrueyeet:
rueyeet Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2009
In the game (as in the Japanese katakana on which OoT and WW Hylian was based) there are no characters distinguished as capital letters. Since I was taking my set from the games', there was nothing for me to draw any captials from.

I figure that if an initial capital was needed, you'd do it in Hylian as you would doing English in all-caps: just make that letter bigger. :)
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inuwings Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2009   Traditional Artist
hey ya! i used your chart for my comic. Thanks for making one, yo. :D

[link]
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:iconrueyeet:
rueyeet Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2009
Thanks for using it! ...of course, now I've just gotta translate what that Rito is saying... ^^;
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inuwings Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2009   Traditional Artist
heh heh your welcome, but yeah in the literal sense he's speaking english. Just, the reader doesn't know that and apparently enough the girl doesn't either. lol I bet it would suck if you were in a comic and the only way that would make you bilingual was if you could read the other person's words.
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:iconrueyeet:
rueyeet Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2009
True! I'd sure rather learn to speak Japanese than read it...so very many kanji. O:
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:iconinuwings:
inuwings Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2009   Traditional Artist
hehheh ditto, but then I can't help but to try anyways. Lol so far the only characters in japanese that I truelly recognize is 'no' and 'n'. XD
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:iconrueyeet:
rueyeet Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2009
Hah, me too. I suspect it's because it shows up so often.
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Koya-the-Cleric Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
lol before I read the description I was like.... hylian looks a lot like japanese kana 'o'.... glad to know it was actually based on it
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Lyssterine Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2009
I love you.
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:iconrueyeet:
rueyeet Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2009
Why, thank you. :D
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:icontyncelu:
Tyncelu Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2009  Student Digital Artist
This is awesome! I hope you don't mind me using it for my future doujinshi!!
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:iconrueyeet:
rueyeet Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2009
Be my guest! :nod:
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:icontyncelu:
Tyncelu Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2009  Student Digital Artist
Thank you!
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landor155 Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2009
believe me ur not, there are people who dress up like crap and think they're the best fans..
as long as u dont do dressups there are worse then u XD nice font anyway, like it
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rueyeet Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2009
I've seen cosplay, both good and bad...I don't think the dorkiness lies so much in the quality of one's efforts, but the amount of slavish fandom behind them. :XD:
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landor155 Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2009
87% knows zelda 46% knows the rough line 22% knows the details
3% is literally enslaved (this occurs to europe and north+central americna civilization)
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:iconrueyeet:
rueyeet Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2009
Happens in Japan, too, or so I hear. Otaku, anyone? :D
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Insanefantasy Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2009
the funny think is before i clicked on this i said to myself "that looks like Hylian letters"...lol
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Sarinilli Featured By Owner May 26, 2009  Professional General Artist
Nice... I like how you rearranged the letters. ^^

Buuut... if you want to write Hylian without running the risk of it being just a Japanese or English copycat, let me know. ^~
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rueyeet Featured By Owner May 26, 2009
Hmmm, intriguing -- is this other version of Hylian you speak of syllabary, or phonetic?

Personally I find that syllabaries result in too much trouble spelling words in languages other than the one they were built for. Rinku, indeed.
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Sarinilli Featured By Owner May 26, 2009  Professional General Artist
Both, actually. Rather, a phonetic base with additional syllabary based characters.
Originally it was a pretty much English AND Japanese idealized mesh, but I've spent a bit of time hacking it down into something much easier to use. ^~

Looooong stroy.
Check my dev page, I finally put up the font here. Figure it's easier for people to find that way.
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rueyeet Featured By Owner May 26, 2009
Oh hey, I've been to your site before.

One of the things that always gave me pause was, are the other writing systems on your site (Zoran, Goron, Gerudo) based on anything in the games? Or did you just sort of put them together yourself?

I can see having glyphs to represent sounds like ch, th, and sh; but I'm curious as to why you also have the consonant-vowel combinations, when those could also be spelled with the other letters? It seems to me that just confuses the spelling.
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