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[Earth-27: Oracle Files] Katie Pierce by Roysovitch [Earth-27: Oracle Files] Katie Pierce by Roysovitch
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Ninja-Jedi Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2018
I got the impression that Katie might have a bit of a thing for Dick
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bjv016 Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
An original civilian adult? That's a first for E27.
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Roysovitch Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2017  Professional General Artist
What about Mark Mish? Joseph Kane? Jack Dahl?
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bjv016 Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
But they're vigilantes and superheroes. Or is there something more planned for Katie?
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Roysovitch Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2017  Professional General Artist
:D
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Ian-Jackson Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2017
Wait...Nightwing crippled a guy? I thought the Bat-Clan (aside from Jason and Damian) try to avoid inflicting lethal wounds on criminals? 

Or was it not Nightwing?
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Roysovitch Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2017  Professional General Artist
Crippling is not lethal. Realistically speaking, you risk killing someone if you punch them. In the heat of combat, no matter how well-trained you are, there is a risk that your blow lands in such a way that it has an effect that you didn't foresee. This happens in the comics, too. Batman didn't intend to knock the original Red Hood into that vat of chemicals (some writers explore a different take on this) or while fighting someone is accidentally impaled on a piece of rebar or something like that. Combat is volatile. If Nightwing is fighting with batons and people are trying to kill him, no matter how well trained he is, if his adrenaline is going and this is a life or death fight and someone pulls a knife or a gun on him, he might lose a bit of his coordination. Adrenaline has that effect to dampen your fine motor skills in favor of your gross motor skills.

Also, in Earth-27, my approach to Nightwing is different than Batman. Dick Grayson's day job is a cop. He carries a gun. He is trained to use lethal force when necessary. To be a cop, he had to come to terms with that reality. He might not carry a gun as Nightwing, but if he has to use lethal force to resolve a situation and save lives, he'll do so as a last resort. It is one of the reasons he kept the Outsiders around, is so that there would be some team that would do the things that Justice League couldn't because of political reasons. Also, part of Dick's reason for becoming Nightwing was because Batman refused to kill the Joker for shooting Barbara. 

Also, in the comics, Dick has killed. He strangled the Joker to death in The Last Laugh (Batman resuscitated the Joker) and Dick let Blockbuster die, without trying to save him. True, Dick felt awful for what he had done both times, but there is some precedent.

You don't have to approve or even like this approach. Just explaining it so you at least understand why I choose the directions I do.
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Ian-Jackson Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2017
I understand. I can't approve, but I understand.

What I don't understand is why Nightwing (even accidentally) crippled a few burglars, but has done nothing of that sort to any supervillain. 

I realize that it's becuase of you, as the author of Earth-27. But it's still a plothole without an in-universe reason. 
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Roysovitch Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2017  Professional General Artist
He jacked up one guy's knee in this VOX Box. I just want to make it clear. The guy will walk funny, but he's not quadriplegic or anything that serious.

There's other instances of this stuff happening to a supervillain in Earth-27. Black Canary gave Penguin his limp. Green Arrow is insinuated to have killed Prometheus. Batman knocked Red Hood into a vat of chemicals and that guy may or may not have become the Joker (in-universe, no one has made that connection except hints that Jason Todd may know that truth as he became the Red Hood as a means of drawing the Joker out of hiding), Huntress gave Black Mask his scarred face, Superman has literally torn Brainiac apart several times, 

We haven't really seen Nightwing's villains. For instance, Blockbuster has been mentioned numerous times in VOX Boxes, but has yet to make his E27 debut. Nightwing has left a scar on a fellow hero, though... or rather, Dick as Batman did, when he fought Dumas/Dumah/Red Hood/Jason Todd in 2008. One of Jason's facial scars was caused by Dick in that fight when he broke Jason's mask and revealed his identity. I understand that's not a crippling injury, but it is a permanent one.
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Riviellan Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2017  Professional Writer
I think it's more implied that he hurt that man, not confirmed. 
But if he did cripple a guy, it's likely he was in danger. Dick tends to be more violent when he's outnumbered or at extreme risk of being captured or gravely wounded. At least from what I have seen. 
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craygus13 Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2017
is this an entirely original character?  I'm not placing the source...
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Roysovitch Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2017  Professional General Artist
Yup. Created by Riviellan 
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craygus13 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2017
neat :)
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AzureVirgo Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2017
Excellent addition to the Park Row medical staff. After reading her background, I so wanted to give Katelynn a big hug.
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Roysovitch Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2017  Professional General Artist
I had the same reaction when I first saw her final picture. :(
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Riviellan Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2017  Professional Writer
She's not always sad. ;)

I told Phil to make it look like she was just startled. 

Depending on who the hugger is, she may or may not be smiling afterwards. :D
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AzureVirgo Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2017
Well, we all know if it's not Richard John Grayson it won't be a smile ;)
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Riviellan Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2017  Professional Writer
Don't be too sure...

I'm sure she'll make other friends. 

I am a dummy! 
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AzureVirgo Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2017
:hug:
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TheBlakeBuz Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2017
So I guess Leslie isn't a big fan of what Bruce and his colleagues do at night? Also what is the extent of her knowledge of heroics since in most comics she knows Bruce's identity and I don't know if the same goes for this universe?
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Roysovitch Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2017  Professional General Artist
She knows Bruce is Batman and knows most of the core members of the Bat-Family who ever had a life-threatening injury that they needed treated discreetly... and no, she's not a fan of Bruce's campaign. She doesn't like violence in any form. She may accept that it is necessary to a degree, but that doesn't mean she has to like it or condone how Bruce spends his nights.
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Spider-Bat700 Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2017
That seems a little contradictory. If you acknowledge that something is necessary, is that not condoning it? Myself, I tend to differentiate between self-defense/defense of the innocent and unprovoked and/or unjustified acts of violence. It's why I never bought into pacifism (and never will). 
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Roysovitch Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2017  Professional General Artist
Depends on which definition of condone you are using. It is one of those tricky words in English.
Because it can mean a whole slew of things.
It can mean willing to overlook.
It can mean tacit approval.
It can mean forgive.
It can mean justifying a morally wrong decision.

It would be more accurate to say Leslie does not support violence. She wishes Bruce would spend his time and money on charities. She wishes he would use his training to better train the police, or that he'd become an officer himself. Leslie wishes he would stop getting himself injured and injuring others as a means of working through his psychological trauma.
She wishes people would stop hurting each other. Period. She is a trauma specialist. She deals in those sorts of injuries constantly. She literally is surrounded by that sort of pain day in and day out. She feels there has to be a better solution, but in the absence of that discovery, she is willing to accept the alternative... even if it is a bitter pill to swallow. She will deal with it but she doesn't have to like it.
If someone came into her clinic and drew a gun, of course she wouldn't just sit around and wait to be shot, but she wouldn't be happy to have to bludgeon the would-be shooter.
She is not a pacifist, she simply values life and hates violence.
As a doctor, she doesn't want to have to amputate someone's limb but if that is what were necessary to save that person's life, she would do it.
That is how she sees Bruce's approach. She wishes he would find a different approach, but in the absence of that happening, she admits some good comes of it, even if she does not agree with his exact methods.
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Spider-Bat700 Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2017
Well, I'd say you did a pretty good job of clarifying the seeming discrepancy. You definitely did it much better than I would have.

And yeah, it can depend on how one defines a word. That's the problem with words, sometimes: we don't always agree on definition. "Fascist" in particular has been completely diluted in meaning. 
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TheBlakeBuz Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2017
Interesting. It does seem fitting for a doctor to not condone violence as she is to keep people health and I doubt treating people with shattered kneecaps and broken arm because the Bat is looking for Joker is really how she wants to spend most of her time.
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Dkalban Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
Looks like a nice addition to the Park Row Clinic staff.
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