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Saxon Ambush

Continental Saxons ambush invading Carolingian forces. 
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"Willkommen in Sachsen, Franken Schweine !"

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The Carolingian forces looks like they haven't any leader. Maybe he got dissed first, so now they have no clue how to proceed from here.  Where are they from, anyway; Spain? France? I nae heard of them before. What century-clearly before the Normans in 1066, but maybe the 10th century?

Fantastic composition. What a beautiful place to die in.
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Thanks! :) The Carolingian dynasty held most of western Europe in the 9th century. It was basically a Frankish Empire. Charlemagne lead some campaigns into central Europe to Christianise it. The Saxons tried to defend there kingdoms, but were ultimately taken over in the end.   

The Saxons were still a hard piece to chew and swallow for the Carolingian Empire. Thirty years of war, rebellions and repression, approximately from 772 to 804 AD, to submit the last true germanic people.

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Ah, yes,  Charlemagne, crowned by a Roman Pope. :la:

And he had the pretension of being the first Emperor of a reborn Western "Roman" Empire.

Sure, he poisoned his own brother Carloman to reunite the divided frankish kingdom. He conquered the Kingdom of Lombardy in northern Italy and thus saved Rome from the Lombard whose king had Carloman's children in his guard. He destroyed the Avar Khagnate of Pannonia after a series of genocidal military campaigns. And, last but not least, he succeeded where the Romans had failed : submitting the wild Germania, kind of ironic since the Franks themselves were of germanic descent like the Saxons.

By all theses success, the Frankish Kingdom extended to the size of a considerable Empire and became THE game master in the Western Europe. You gotta give Charlemagne the credit of being the father of a unified Europe.

But Charlemagne never succeeded to conquer the old provinces of Hispania, protected by the Pyrenean Chain, divided between the Umayyad Caliphate of Al-Andalus to the south, the rebellious Taifas and the visigothic-vascian kingdoms like the Asturias to the north.

Neither did he tried to reconquer Africa (held by the Abbassid Caliphate with whom Charlemagne was allied against the Umayyad), nor Britannia (he corresponded with the main anglo-saxon king Offa of Mercia).

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Saxons have a cool name!
Do you like Saxons?
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Yeah I find them interesting and what they did in history. I've probably got a bit of Saxon blood in me too somewhere down the line.
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When the Saxons came to Britain, did they bring Female warriors to help the fight and take over? 
Because if they did not how would they reproduce on Britain right?
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Female Saxon warriors were very rare, if that they were just regular people. The Saxons eventually colonised Britain after having raided the Saxon shore for years. The invasion was very slow, happening over around 100 years. The Saxons brought over families of people. After all pretty much the majority of Saxons were farmers, just like the later Vikings looking for better land. The British population was somewhat Romanised and feircely resisted the Saxons, but eventually they all melded into one people, which was a very long process, and in the end the Saxons had established kingdoms, which lead to more wars and fighting. A very interesting subject!
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So The Britons and Saxons mixed (Both made England)?
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Yep. England (right now) is a mixture of Celtic, Anglo-Saxon (Germanic), Roman (only a little bit), Danes/Nordic peoples (Germanic) and Norman (Germanic). When the Angles and Saxons came over, it wasn't just those particular tribes. The Jutes, Frisians, Franks and other Germanic tribes came over too. It was just that the majority were Angles and Saxons. England remains to this day a very multi cultural country :)  
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Does the English language have any Celtic Influence on it or in Culture and artwork?
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We have King Arthur which has tales that developed over hundreds of years, but it's origins are in a Celtic king/warlord who defended against the Saxons. The Beowulf sagas a also Britonic in origin. There are quite a few words that are celtic used in the English language. The noun Flannel means 'little woolen thing'. I read that Star is 'Ster' in celtic. There maybe a link there as they look similar.
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Wearing them down with volleys of arrows and retreat before they can get into formation and charge.

Good tactics for forest.

Though ... if Carolingian Armies invaded Saxony, how did the invasion ended?
Was Saxony conquered, please?
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Yep, Saxony was conquered although it was long and drawn out. The Germanic tribes eventually christianised in the process.
When the carolingian dynasty split up into different kingdoms, there are clear indications of the areas/borders of germany and france.
The Carolingians pretty much set up the foundations of Western Europe.
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haha :) he's not, just has his head down in pain. I guess it looks like he's headless as he has a red shirt under his tunic you can see :) 
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heheh yeah, I thought his leather cap was part of his shirt
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WOW Gorgeous And Epic 
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