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Random Ramblings: Thoughts about Yuuki Yuuna by riockman Random Ramblings: Thoughts about Yuuki Yuuna by riockman

So this is my first post of "Random Ramblings", which is the article about my personal opinions revolving around cartoons, comics and video games that I know/played/read/watched.
And some stuff about art.

Let us begin.

Ah, Yuuki Yuuna wa Yuusha de aru. Or maybe some of you western viewers know as "Yuki Yuna is a Hero".
This one show, expectedly, got branded as Madoka clone as soon as the posters fly. Or maybe after some episodes aired.

But I, have a different opinion.

You DON'T just claim that a show is a carbon copy of other show unless you already watched it, and of course, do some research about it.

The writer and some staffs of Yuuki Yuuna told us in an interview (saw it in tumblr sometime ago) that Yuuki Yuuna is an original show, not inspired (they said) by any other show.
But yeah, the staffs of course only told us something they wanted us to hear.
I don't want to accuse people, but we can never know the truth whether "was it completely original or was inspired by something else and you mix them with your imaginations/creativity".

Some people might--no, I often heard people said that:
"look, this show, reminds me of Madoka."
"this show is a Madoka clone/rip-off, uncreative"

While it MIGHT be true, as Madoka was the one show that made "edgy magical girls" trend go boom, but let me say this:
You CANNOT say Gurren Lagann is a Gundam rip-off because it has some random boy stumbled upon some random huge robot in the first episodes.

So I tried to search here and there, to look for the "evidences".

But let me say this one thing clear: I DON'T WATCH MADOKA YET.
That's the irony here, I'm really sorry, but I feel that I have to state my researches.

Let me continue.
I just finished watching "Soukyuu no Fafner" as known as "Fafner in the Azure" for some people.

And SURPRISINGLY, I found some kind of nostalgic feeling.
About what? Yuuki. Yuuna. itself.
Whoa there.

I have my own reasons. Let me explain shortly.
Plot wise, they have many similarites:
1. Defending the last fortress of humankind.
2. In the beginning, they experienced a fake happy life, orchestrated by the adults. Some of the kids knew earlier, then they life will change forever.
3. They were forcibly chosen to be a "hero". Some were volunteered and happy about it, only to regret their decision later.
4. All the squad members have pretty much the same goal, which is "protect your home turf, and survive for another day".
5. The further the story goes, they will be faced with internal struggle between "better be dead or fight the losing battle until the bitter end".
6. More often they fight, the more likely they lost their lives/humanity.

I'm really sorry that I can't really compare it to Madoka Magica as my knowledge is very limited about the show at the moment and I don't want to be a Mr. Know-it-all so I better not say much about stuffs I'm not familiar of.

That is why, people, with my little research, I think that "Yuuki Yuuna wa Yuusha de aru" was more likely inspired (or accidentaly inspired) by "Soukyuu no Fafner" than Madoka Magica itself.
People, please do some research first before saying every edgy transforming girls are just a lowly Madoka ripoff.

But however, please correct me if I'm wrong about some facts, or maybe you can add some to help me write this one article.
Thank you.
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Pinkiepierules814 Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Honestly, that's why i love both YuYuYu and Fafner. They're pretty good shows that are brushed aside as "shitty ripoffs" of another sucessfull franchise (Madoka and Evangelion). In my opinion, nothing is unique anymore. Every media is made of an assembly of cliches and stereotypical characters and roles and common plot threads. Madoka basically uses every Magical Girl archetype (pink cheerful main girl, color-coded characters, alien magical companion) and deconstructs them to the end and beyond until it's bittersweet conclusion. YuYuYu also uses magical girl cliches and deconstructs some of them, but ultimately, unlike Madoka, it falls more on the idealistic side (the power of humanity can withstand anything you throw at them) and most characters get their happy ending. Fafner is the same on that regard, characters die, suffer, go throught mental trauma, but ultimately are able to keep fighting for humanity and their wish for peace.

just a random rambling, sorry for grammar.
riockman Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2018  Hobbyist Artist
Thank you so much for your insight on the show.
Yeah, I made this one to put it straight that there's nothing unique in these days, yet that doesn't mean all the stories and character are boring even though having same theme like olders shows. It just made me a little mad that people just jump into conclusion that any shows that put some cliched scenes always mean plagiarizing.

Thanks again for giving a long explanation, a girl that watches mecha shows (especially non popular titles) and other heavy themes are really rare lol
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riockman Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
Thanks for checking my writing here!

Ah, I've seen that fan art somewhere, but I forgot to save,lol

Is that so? The fanbases are actually close? Man, and I thought that I am the weird guy here.

It's really hard indeed, having something you loved being accused of increativity because of having same main theme.Submit Comment
TAmazingRandom Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
Hi there Riockman, sorry it took me so long to comment. I have a complicated history with Yuki Yuna. I love magical girl and I love the director Seiji Kishi, so I went into Yuki Yuna REALLY, REALLY, wanting to like it. I did my best, but when the initial broadcast finished I was firmly in the "This is a Madoka rip-0ff" camp.

But then time passed, the show simmered in my mind, I read the interviews, and I even got to met Seiji Kishi at panel and hear him talk about Yuki Yuna. Since then my stance has softened. I do not think it is a rip-off. The similarities are a coincidence from trying to explore subtly different but still similar themes.

The biggest problem is that Yuki Yuna's mythos and backround for the Gods and Vortexes and the like is so vague. The conflict lacks motivation. I asked Seiji Kishi at the panel and he admitted that he initially kept there from being a "villain" per say so the story could focus on the characters. This accidentally made the system itself the "villain" making it VERY similar to Madoka.

The other problem, and I take full responsibility for this, is after Madoka we were already for the twist. You can't tell the same joke twice if you know what I mean. I remember reading the comments on Crunchyroll is we (as in the audience) spent most of the series waiting for the other shoe to drop. So when the twist/tragedy came we (as in the audience) were expecting it and a little detached. I do not blame the series for this or call "bad". I just think it's a little bit of bad luck that it came out in the wrong environment.

So I guess what saying is Yuki Yuna is not an initial rip-off of Madoka, but please don't judge the people who think that way too harshly because the argument can be made. But I don't mean to say anything bad about Yuki Yuna. Shows can be similar but still amazing. I enjoy Digimon, Log Horizon, and Kanbari of the Iron Fortress a lot more than I do pokemon, SAO, and Attack on Titan.

Thank you for such an interesting topic Riockman.
riockman Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
Thanks for commenting on my article here.

My point is, even though show A is a look-alike with show B, that doesn't make show A can be accused as a blatant ripoff without thinking and researching first.
I did said that Gurren Lagann is definitely not a Gundam ripoff because it has a random kid stumbled upon a random huge robot, right?

Hey, while I drown in irony of not watching Madoka for a good comparison, I even pointed out another show that actually has more or less the same plot with Yuuki Yuuna itself!
TAmazingRandom Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2017  Hobbyist Writer
Yep, I haven't seen Fafner, but you made a great argument.
riockman Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
Maybe if you have time to check it, you should do it.

Once again, I have to say sorry if I offend people but sometimes ignorant or lighting-fast judging ticks me off.
Burningblade04 Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2017
Eh, It'll have its own identity by the time the sequel comes out anyway.
riockman Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
But I heard the prequel one that'll get anime release, not the sequel, cmiiw

Still, I want to blurt my opinions out since the show started sometime ago.
OutcastClankzilla Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2017  Student General Artist
Well, looking at your notes, and having plenty of Madoka reference myself, I can say that it's actually easy for people to say Yuuki Yuuna is a "clone" of Madoka Magica, insomuch that it's also a Magical Girl show that ends up taking apart classical conventions of the genre as time goes on and generally comes off as being dark.

But other than that, there's actually only two and a half of these points that end up being a common element with Madoka Magica - the regretting of decisions to be Magical Girls, the internal struggles, and the loss of humanity and lives...

Yuuki Yuuna ultimately actually has more going for it insomuch that there actually is a team of protagonists working together. Madoka...doesn't have that.

Thanks for the critique, friend!
riockman Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
Thank you, thank you so much for checking my writings and adding for the missing part that's actually needed here.

Yeah, while some points I explained can be linked to Madoka Magica itself, but I, who experienced watching some other anime, felt that Yuuki Yuuna is not a plain copy of Madoka. 

I kinda disliked people who just said that it's an uncreative show, before trying to check it out as much as they can then trying to compare it with a good reason and good research (ironic here because I myself didn't know many about Madoka but however I proved my points with other anime as comparation).

That's why I wrote this article, to straighten things up for a bit.

Once again, thank you for responding!
OutcastClankzilla Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2017  Student General Artist
You're certainly welcome, friend!
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