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18th July 2008 A brave soul has joined the administrative powers of this group: please welcome


He is a highly motivated and capable person. He even has a project for the group, which you'll hear about soon.

19th February 2008: New member! :iconmattbray-remodernist:

News of January 27: Since our failure to put up a contest, we came back with a new idea. This next project is not a context, but a means to work together on the same theme. Thus, in the gallery, you will find a folder baptised "Yearning", and that is the theme we propose you to work on. Every piece must be titled "Yearning" and of course must be about it. Your work will be gathered in that folder. Good luck with your work!

News of January 23rd: Due to lack of participation, the contest was cancelled; indeed, two candidates is not enough. Only one of you actually sent an official note with a piece of art to participate, while two others suggested they might run. I assumed that with such a number of participants, you'd not really want the contest, and I don't feel like putting in the effort. I guess this contest was a test (no pun), and we failed.

We have some serious questions to ask ourselves now. First of all: is anyone here? I know about a dozen of you are, but we're supposed to be more in this group. Secondly, why are we together and is there a reason for this group to exist? While other groups can gather around a certain type of art (abstract painting, black and white photography, portraits, glass works, etc.), we only have an art philosophy, and I come to wonder if that is enough, because it gives us little unity at bottom, in what we actually produce as artists.

I feel things this way: either we really do something drastic, or we let this group slowly die and wither away. I'm of the mind to opt for the first of these options, yet I am relatively clueless as to what kind of drastic measure we could take.

The contest didn't work, the majority of you don't care - and whether I blame you for it or not isn't the point, I don't blame you for it, you certainly have excellent reasons not to care, and that's what I'd like to change - and now we're in a situation where we need a massive kick in the butt.

Know that our subscription has expired. (Thanks to the kind soul who bought us one; that was more thoughtfulness than we deserved; and please don't waste your money on us again!) Therefore, I recommend you use my personal forum to discuss… (if we can't produce art together, we can at least discuss our common philosophy of art). We need to be more together and do more things together. It isn't a problem to start small, as we aren't very many, but we ought to be proportionally motivated, by which I mean, the less we are, the more motivated we have to be, because no one else will be motivated in our stead.

News of January 7: A contest is now open! One piece per artist, submit it with CONTEST in the title of your note to me. All the art for the contest will be gathered in the same file in the gallery, and people will vote via a poll. Since our subscription ends on the 20th, the 19th will be the day when I take a screenshot of the poll results and announce the winner. Have fun with the contest!

News of December 21st: After two months at the head of this group, I am a bit disappointed by the lack of life to be found around here. I am ever thankful to all those of you who participate, however.

To be honest, I feel no desire to merely be the person who submits the work of the "Remodernists" if that is the only thing that happens within this group. As you must understand, getting extra exposure and extra pageviews is not the main goal of the group, and I wish we did more.

Therefore, we need to do more. Anything, as long as it gathers us into something. Be it a contest, or else, I think we should do something. There is a forum for suggestions on this account, and you can use my personal forum as well.

Any suggestion for other projects is most welcome and I beseech you to participate! There is no point in being part of a group if you do nothing with it. For instance, I addressed a number of issues in the forum, and the large majority of you didn't speak out about them, and you should, because short of any opinion-voicing, I will act according to the opinion of those who did voice their opinion, as it should be.

I hope many of you will actually read this note and that something will get in motion. And if nothing happens, I will take decisions on my little own, and you will not be allowed to say that I did not offer options.

NEWS of 22nd October 2007: Make sure to know about the two forums available for the group: the one in this group's journal, and the one in :iconforgetfulrainn:'s. Issues are being discussed there and you don't want to be left out of them, as they will be influential on the group. It's YOUR group so raise your voice!

18th October 2007: members no longer have to submit their work themselves, the new administrator will do that for you. So just send a note to the group, or his personal account, and he'll do the work. Just write "Submission" as the title of your note, and add a link to the piece, and pure magic will happen.

:iconforgetfulrainn: is now the administrator in charge of the group, as Laniru is too busy with his new job as art teacher; he will nevertheless remain the official leader, while ForgetfulRainn will be the official secretary of the group (he is typing this himself). So, expect some new stuff happening soon, and... more in a note if I can manage to write one to everyone.

ForgetfulRainn opened a thread on his own forum for a discussion among Remodernists. Check it out and speak out! Here:…


(old news)

forgetfulrainn :iconforgetfulrainn: has offered to take on some administrative responsibilities for the group! This is great, since I am pretty strapped with other responsibilities lately. Thanks, Rainn!
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thewrongkind's avatar
I wish I knew more about remodernism! I read the description of your philosophy, and definitely support an open and accepting view of art. I guess in the traditional view, art philosophies are accompanied by a distinctive style: intense color or sharp lines or something obvious like that. Is there a certain technique associated with this group?
remodernists's avatar
Greetings thewrongkind, and thank you for looking at our site. At the moment there isn't much do differentiate Remodernism from other artistic styles. Remodernism is against conceptual art (in the visual arts) as it no longer has any meaning any more. Damien Hirst and Jeff Koons are prime examples of the sad state that 99.5% of the art world is in at the moment (not sure of percentile however I believe it is pretty high). Other than a belief in a return to spiritual and other such values to art there isn't much to label a work "Remodernist" unless it is a painting or piece of litterature that strives for something powerful, either spiritual (as in faith), or worldly (as in politics).

You can read the original Remodernist manifesto here:[link] if you haven't before.

Let us know if you have any more questions, we here at the Remodernists of dA are more than happy to help anyone interested in Remodernism and it's principles.
thewrongkind's avatar
Thanks for your reply! I already read the manifesto, so I think I understand the philosophy, I just wanted to know if artwork could be specifically defined as Remodernist. Although, I guess if you excluded certain artists from the club based on their lack of "Remodernist" characteristics, that would be against your accepting philosophy. Makes sense!
remodernists's avatar
I did write an essay on that very topic, because it is a problematic issue. Long story short: Remodernism concerns more the state of mind of the artist than the art he or she creates. So any medium and style is acceptable. :)
nunheh's avatar
I'm not good at contests, meaning I'm not fond of them. I let my chess game slip because I realized I no longer cared about winning.
It is, as you note, difficult to get things to hang together for people who don't embrace a single style or subject. Remodernists is a group, such as it is, that doesn't require defending, or defining itself through hatred of another group. It's like politics in this country: you're affiliation with the so-called right or left demands that you hate the other group, or at least despise them. There are, however, many individuals that would rather come to a solution of particular problems. Like remodernists, it seems, they've left the party politics behind.

But it's nearly impossible to get such people to acts as a group. So they either stay home or vote for the lesser of two evils, as far as they can determine.
It seems that the problem is much like this.
I'm an abstract guy so I want to beat down the narrative painters. I'm an old fashioned neo-con narrative painter so I want to beat down the young moderns.
But what happens when you don't want to beat down the other group? You probably go your own way and either avoid the line of fire or develop a thick skin...but the thing is, you usually do it alone.
Laurazee's avatar
I am working on one for the Yearning project! Should be complete in a few days...
lien's avatar
Painting submitted into the "Yearning" Project!
remodernists's avatar
Kickass! I saw your note, and I'll get it in as soon as I'm done answering comments and the rest of my administrative chores. :D
lien's avatar
Great...just saw it in the folder...thanks, hope all is going well! :)
hamlet279's avatar
Actually I would have entered the contest; although I'm profoundly indifferent to contests (especially on the Internet), I was going to enter just to show support for the Remodernist group. I sent a Note asking how to enter and never got a reply.

Perhaps this happened to others, which might explain the low level of participation?

I confess that I still find the navigation of DA somewhat baffling.
remodernists's avatar
Yes, you have been counted in the few ones who submitted work. I did receive the note, and I don't see why I wouldn't have answered it. Perhaps my reply to you didn't get through - as tends to happen on dA - but since I later on got a note from you with the painting you wanted to submitted, I certainly assumed you had gotten my reply.

As to dA's faulting system, I don't think it's faulty enough to explain the lack of life. I think it has more to do with the difficulty of finding concrete things to gather around, outside of a common mindset, which is about all we Remodernists have to share. And which is what I'm trying to improve with the "project" thing. I'd love to see you participate to it!
hamlet279's avatar
In general I'll do anything I can to help grow the Remodernists of DA site. I have posted links to us all over the place, and I'm very active in many art discussion forums, where I bring up Remodernism as often as seems appropriate.

Humans love conflict like a hog loves slop. I think one of the reasons that Remodernism doesn't get as much attention as it should is that we are such a benign, inclusive movement.

Anything controversial (like attacking Postmodernism) will probably be your best bet for getting attention. Whether that's the kind of attention we want, I'm unsure.

It's often said that "there's no such thing as bas press."
remodernists's avatar
Thanks for all your efforts! As to bad press, I'd rather do without! But if it can expose the movement to people who would love it, then maybe it does have some redeeming qualities; either way, we won't be doing the bad press ourselves, so we probably shouldn't think of it much.
hamlet279's avatar
You're welcome! And thank you for all you do as administrator of the group; please don't ever hesitate to contact me if there's anything I can do to help.

Someday soon I'll publish an essay I'm working on called "The Question of Intentionality" that might be appropriate for the Remodernists' site, I'll send you a copy.
remodernists's avatar
I appreciate your gratitude! I'll keep in mind your offer and when there gets to be more work than I can take, I'll let you know!

Good luck with your essay!
hamlet279's avatar
Thanks. You can see the latest draft of "The Question of Intentionality, an Investigation" here: [link] there's also a version posted as the latest entry in my DA Journal.
lien's avatar
Yes...expect something from me soon!
nunheh's avatar
It's got to be a new I right or am I righht?
remodernists's avatar
Unless you already created something about yearning titled "Yearning" that nobody on dA ever saw. In that case, it'd be brand new to all of us, and so it'd be fine. Otherwise, it'd be pointless; the idea is to be able to all work together, not just to sort out our work by theme.
Laurazee's avatar
Hopefully the deadline isn't too pressing... I'm up for keeping it open-ended. Maybe people could also submit older works, if the subject area fits? There are certainly many different kinds of yearning.

At any rate, I'm in, but I have a bunch of things that I have to get through before I can get to it! (There's my yearning, alas!)
Birgit-Zartl-Art's avatar
oh cool idea, is there any deadline for submission?
I'm in in any case!
remodernists's avatar
If you mean the "Yearning" thing, there's no deadline. Take your time!
Birgit-Zartl-Art's avatar
yes, thanks Nicolas :) no worries, I will submit...but I need inspiration first....
lien's avatar
Taking a break from painting...but will watch with interest!

Once more...respect for your commitment!
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