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some of you recognize this drawing. I uploaded it many years ago to see if some DA staff were homophobic, or if they just hated two guys together. well, a few months ago, they finally took it down for sexual content. I disputed this, and it took quite awhile, but they gave me permission to re-upload it. if any DA staff is reading this, please refer to ticket 758374979 titled "deviation removed dispute unanswered." just in case, I will quote the last answer:

"We decided to make a subsequent evaluation of the content. 

Assuming that you can affirm for us here that you fully understand the DeviantArt terms of service and all restrictions and prohibitions concerning acceptable and unacceptable submissions outlined in it, we thereon grant you the opportunity to re-upload the image. Please understand that any further violations will result in the termination of your DeviantArt profile.

Thanks for your cooperation!"

it took a very long time to get the dispute to even be answered because... there was no record of it. it got "lost" or something. but my argument was clear. the two women in this drawing are not engaging in sex. this is more of what you do before you even get into foreplay, where you simply caress each other, kiss, and show your love in a gentle way. it's the build up. as you can see, it is impossible for their genetalia to be in contact, plus they can't be seen, and neither can their nips. IN FACT, a long time ago before I uploaded some pen sketches of the Jisatsu brothers getting it on (in my scraps), I had submitted a ticket that specifically asked them, are we allowed to upload drawings of two canon adults engaging in sexual activity if the important parts are censored? they confirmed that we could... however, all of my tickets from before my ban are gone, so I cannot pull it up for proof. I dunno if that's convenient for them, or just an accident or something. I can never tell anymore.

but I love how they say, "any further violations will result in the termination of your DeviantArt profile," when this was not a violation, and it's an OLD drawing. this was taken down by someone who either didn't know the rules, or had nefarious purposes. so does that mean that, if one of my old drawings gets hit, my profile will be terminated? wouldn't it be better to just take it down, and if I feel it's unjust, I can dispute again? how can they punish me for something uploaded YEARS ago, especially since I couldn't have known it'd be a violation because no one took it down THEN?

now... my friends and fans, I need your help, because I LIKE to draw sexual things. I think we should be allowed to here because there is a mature filter. I mean, it's there for a reason, AND one of those reasons are "sexual themes." is there an art site out there similar to DA that allows hardcore mature stuff to be uploaded? like no rules against seeing genetalia, penetration, stuff like that? preferably NOT A FURRY SITE? let me know.

DA should have a sister site for that kind of stuff, just like ModTheSims has SexySims, a site for posting NSFW sims content. why is everyone so afraid of sex?

lastly, I gave this a moderate mature filter because it's censored, but should it have a strict one? I mean, they're not even doing anything.
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Kitnighty Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2018  Hobbyist Artist
Pixiv. They allow almost anything you could imagine to be posted on there. Two naked chicks hugging would be one of the tamer 18+ images someone's uploaded.
It is a Japanese site, so, I've no idea if communicating with them will be easy if you have questions or need to dispute something, but they do have an English version of the site, so you at least don't need to know how to read Japanese to use it.
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ShysWorld Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Most people I know post their nsfw to tumblr but...yeah no XD as of now I am not sure about art sites (not furry) that allow sexual content, but I will go looking later
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talking2mazelf Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This... doesn't look like it offends any dA policies. Why the bloody hell would it get removed by the staffs?

Eh, I'm gonna guess because the staffs are a bunch of incompetent greedy dumbasses who prefers money over management.
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Reitanna-Seishin Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
I think it was a homophobic staff member
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ZADRpunk13 Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2018
*quirks a brow that this was removed* '8I

All their bits and gibbles are censored. There should have been no reason to remove this image. I really don't get DA and their policy sometimes
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Reitanna-Seishin Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
right?
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ZADRpunk13 Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2018
*nods* I love this site but I'm gonna lie that day by day, it concerns me as well just how extreme it can go.
If a image clearly does violate policy of sexual content that it should be taken care of with warnings or notices from
staff. But openly removed like this when nothing was violated or someone getting another deviant user banned because
of an image where boobs are shown or character have obviously slept together but everything is appropriately censored? 
I think there's just some extremists on here who really forget how this place is meant to work
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Reitanna-Seishin Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
my favorite is when drawings of pregnant underage characters slip through. somehow they don't get taken down for "sexualized minor."
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ZADRpunk13 Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2018
Oh, that is rich. I mean, teen pregnancy does happen but really?
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Reitanna-Seishin Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2018  Hobbyist General Artist
guess how you get pregnant? sex. so if there is art of pregnant minors, then that says clearly they had sex, therefore, all of that art should be reported.
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ZADRpunk13 Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2018
I hear ya Rei. I hear ya. I see the hypocrisy. Least of all when someone like you seems to have their art taken
down left and right all well working in the rules but someone people post that crack and its okay? BI
Double standards be somewhere..
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