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Middle Earth + Westeros on Earth

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Based on the map by GPMAsss2 where Middle Earth is added to North America www.deviantart.com/gpmasss2/ar…

an extensions of this map: www.deviantart.com/raptor-of-p…
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My version shifts it up a bit further north so Umbar can be on the map, obliterating the entire Western half of North America in the process. I like the little tail of Baja California. The Misty Mountains would be roughly analogous to the Rockies in this timeline. Note that the most easterly locations such as the Lonely Mountain, Mirkwood, and Rhun would exist in what was once the Great Plains region of the US. For our purposes consider this to be long after the War of the Ring, where Middle Earth is dominated by Men and the supernatural has diminished.

The native cultures of Mexico, Eastern North America, etc would still exist. Their interaction with the various peripheral Middle Earth peoples such as the Corsairs of Umbar, Men of Khand, Men of Rhun and Men of Dale would be interesting.

Also, Numenor is here too. Perhaps the legends were false, and Numenor was not sunken, but merely abandoned. Those that remained could be quite insular and set in their ways.

Meanwhile Westeros without Targs would be unlikely to get their act together before the Europeans outpaced them technologically. I'd expect it to be colonized with the conflict resembling the British colonization of Scotland with swords vs muskets.
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Infernalboye's avatar

this is a certified Greenland Moment

Raptor-of-Paradise's avatar

Maybe Denmark should own all of Westeros :D

Oh, no, Britain can't sail away from the European Union into the Hudson Bay as planned!

Varient54's avatar

Not exactly the most accurate, but oh well. If they were on Earth, both Middle Earth and Westeros would hit up the street on Europe's clay, not Greenland or NA.

Raptor-of-Paradise's avatar

>crack fantasy map

>accurate

ok

Varient54's avatar

Accurate in the sense of located in the region that inspired them initially. For Middle Earth, it would replace the Iberian peninsula up into France.


For Westeros, it's literally Ireland, but things have been tacked on, and it was relocated to be under England, upside down, and attached to the English island. Also some land was reclaimed from the ocean for funsies.

CrusaderApe's avatar

Trying to figure out if this makes Texas Mordor or Harad...

NC-1999's avatar

by this map's logic that would mean the elves either awoke on the banks of one of the Great Lakes or west of the Appalachians.

CrusaderApe's avatar

Would that also make Valimar Japan or another East Asian region?

NC-1999's avatar

Perhaps. Makes me wonder how the culture of Japan would be different hosting what is essentially the gods of the world and their maiar within their borders.

CrusaderApe's avatar

"Eagle Warriors" devoted to Manwë and Varda, perhaps?

Raptor-of-Paradise's avatar

So Mordor is more northward, and Harad is farther southeast. That long river would actually indicate the lands of Khand. I'll attach a version with Mordor circled for reference.

Middle Earth   Westeros On Earth By Raptor Of Para
CrusaderApe's avatar

Either way, looks like I'd be digging up weird, oddly alluring artifacts of a great eye on my ranch in this TL...

Raptor-of-Paradise's avatar

I'm in Idaho, which means I end up on the western edge of Mirkwood lol. Maybe I can meet Beorn, he seems like a bro.

CrusaderApe's avatar

If we're including remnants of the supernatural, I suppose that possibly would render me part-Orc in this TL, then, given my minor Native American heritage IRL. As you said, having a set of civilizations technologically equivalent to the High Medieval period on the west coast would have interesting repercussions on the development of the Native tribes.

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