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Since people will keep asking about the redesigns until I die and probably are going to get quija boards to ask me afterwards, have some crappy, half-baked comic-style redesign doodles of the post-K: SI Monsterverse movie creatures. The main three get two iterations each, because I have multiple ideas for them.

But what about making proper sheets? What about [insert creature not included]? What about the comics? Well, you have to consider that the original speculative Monsterverse bullshit redesings were done in 2018, where I still had hopes for the sequels, but by now, this sums up my current feelings for the Monsterverse pretty well: www.youtube.com/watch?v=-calvs…
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ValhaHazred's avatar

You got me giggling with all these adorably stupid expressions. Especially Legion. They may be an alien bioweapon but they're just here for a nice time.

Ramul's avatar

A nice time of hostile terraforming.

Considering how popular Legion has turned out, I might do a proper drawing of him (or them, as you put more appropriately), as this one is pretty much a pinnacle of lazy designs.

GodzillaFan-13's avatar

Very much agree with the Link XD


i *Adored* KOTM, but YEESH is it so different in tone, lore and biology then G14 and KSI that it just kinda, shat the MV bed.

Ramul's avatar

I think it would have worked better as a standalone movie than a sequel, kind of what the Millennium era did.

GodzillaFan-13's avatar

and then GVK just, shat that bed even further.

TheRealBeef1213's avatar

tbh i think legion would have made a better gidoria. it could always have main heads to suggest the og design while also having the millions of smaller ones. aside from that, I like this design. its cute

Ramul's avatar

It would certainly be a pretty weird Ghidorah design, constantly shifting its form to adapt to different situations. Not sure how well the fandom in general would receive that, though.

TheRealBeef1213's avatar

true. but that makes it more alien then gold space dragon

Ramul's avatar

Yes, if you want to go the 'Ghidorah as an alien' route. The official Ghidorah design would work better as a terrestrial creature, either as an abnormally powerful conjoined triplet or the "hydra" Ghidorah.

TheRealBeef1213's avatar

yea thats true. one could even say its an primordial earth creature that adapted to ride asteroid impacts to get to other planets. making it an "alien" that actually came from earth

Ramul's avatar

That is actually an idea mentioned in that older 'King Onychophora' design. Have him survive being thrown into space by an asteroid impact, go into dormancy and have a capsule of rock form around him, then after millions of years circling the sun falling back onto Earth. Although, in that case it would be more effective to show his return in the actual movie.

Evodolka's avatar

i like these Kaiju better, legion looks like a really happy noodle :D

Ramul's avatar

A happy bowl of noodles.

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Lediblock2's avatar

....So you're not happy that Godzilla movies don't meticulously follow scientific principles.


Gotcha.


What is even your goddamn problem? You draw porn of goddamn Minions, but this is too rich for your blood or something?

Ramul's avatar

No, I am disappointed that the Monsterverse movies didn't follow what they themselves established in the beginning. Because I absolutely have no problem with it not meticulously following scientific principles it didn't follow from the beginning, like violating the square-cube law or depicting radiation in ways it doesn't work in reality.

Also, I have explained my gripes to you multiple times in the previous redesigns already, maybe try to remember them for once rather than resorting to your headcanons about me and my motivations.

TheRealBeef1213's avatar

what exactly isn't it following?

Ramul's avatar

The first movie had the creatures depicted as ancient remnants of long-gone ecosystems engaging in their natural behaviour to the detriment of humanity, because humans are nothing but ants to them and buildings nothing but weird topography. As King of the Monsters came around, all of them were one-of-a-kind creatures with their relationship being purely "alpha" and "subordinates", with a few designated alpha creatures fighting for dominance as soon as they see each other, while the subordinates follow the commands of whoever the alpha is. Meanwhile, humans are either to be actively helped or actively destroyed.

TheRealBeef1213's avatar

tbh i see the human "helping" as just ants in the way or just happening to have the same goals not actually helping other then mere distractions. Apperntetly by our time almost all of the species on the surface had been decimated to just one individual. the kaiju who live in the hollow earth however are still thriving (as seen by the two war bats). I wouldn't be surprised to see other members of the kaiju we've seen in the hollow earth (aside from Kong and Godzilla who are support to be the last)


while I do see you your point about the alpha and subordinates, i don't see how this influnces the actual design of the species.



tldr: the only thing that really changed was the addition of an alpha status

Ramul's avatar

No, I mean the monsters actively helping humans, like Godzilla directing other monsters away from cities. Such a behaviour would be appropriate for Kong, but Godzilla doing that after demonstrating a 'not giving a crap' behaviour in the first movie appears pretty weird.

As for the monster numbers, I think it would have been nice to have a little variety, like two or three members of a species. Rodan for example could have a brother or mate, as a reference to the original movie.


That's because the reasons for my disappointment with the development of the Monsterverse have very little to do with the designs. It's mostly the handling of human characters and the shift in behaviour of the creatures that had me lose interest.

TheRealBeef1213's avatar

I don't remember him directing them away from the cities as much as directing them back to where they were. maybe they might do the mate or brother in a future movie but they couldn't really do so in kotm as it would then be too much for godzilla and mothra to handle. plus there were other muto members as well in kotm proving that maybe titans are just either obseinly rare or most are like kong and just dont care enough to show up

Ramul's avatar

Also possible. Though in the two Rodans case, one of them could have been killed by Ghidorah before the final fight began. Generally, it would have been nice to see creatures react in other ways than just following the alpha's commands, like fleeing in a panic.

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Lediblock2's avatar

No, you fucking haven't, though. It's just been you preaching the same bullshit again and again about how you know better than the producers of this movie because it doesn't personally fellate your boner for hard sci-fi. The 2014 Godzilla's stuff about the ancient ecosystem was never meant to be the be-all, end-all of building for the more fantastical elements that are a core part of Godzilla's franchise, same way as how Marvel started with stuff like Iron Man and going out of its way to pretend that Asgard was actually super-science and not magic - and even then it went out of its way to emphasize that the kaiju are more than animals.


Jesus Christ, it's like I'm talking with a fucking Vulcan - just every time, it's "But... but this isn't anatomically feasible. This isn't likely. Why did they make this?", like every single element of art needs to have a fucking annotated list of why it should be allowed to stylize or play a part in character design.


But that's not my problem with you - it never was. My problem with you is this constant smug, patronizing bullshit that just drips from every post you make about this franchise - this constant self-fellatio about how silly and childish these movies are compared to your supreme intelligence, and how you're oh-so-kind by enlightening us, the incompetent peasants, by deigning to tell us how much smarter you are - and waiting for your subsequent worship.

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