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AFM ADA Sapper WIP + Weaps by Pyrosity AFM ADA Sapper WIP + Weaps by Pyrosity
I know, it's pathetic, all that's left is his right hand and I didn't do it yet. But I'm scanning everything right now and figured I'd post it now instead of days later when I get around to finishing it off.

Anyway, this is an ADA/AFM sapper (combat engineer). I quite like how he turned out so I'll probably be applying this new uniform to Korso and May for my novella project.

Also here are a couple weapons, the familiar BSA sten-copy, the Schicks (this one with an even shorter barrel, used by sappers and vehicle crews, often without the stock entirely), and a KCA M-2 rifle - a mix of a classic winchester lever action with a high capacity drum magazine.

[This work a part of Epiverse]
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mcguyver123 Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2010
i... i want to cosplay as this guy... o.o
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Pyrosity Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
xD why's that?
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mcguyver123 Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2010
the uniform 0.0
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Pyrosity Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
oh XD
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werejaguar Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2008
you know their are several problems with using a lever action in combat. The fact that when you have to get cover you can't hide that well due to the need to work the lever. As for using a 30-06 cartridge in what looks like a winchester m94 would cause the whole thing to explode. Their were several lever actions that used box mags or rotating clips for the 30-06 like the winchester m1895 and the savage m99. I also want to say that the drum mag is impractical, because it would cause lots of noise that would alert the enemy when not fighting and half empty. what would be better would be a BAR mag or similar box mag. These are my nit picks, otherwise I like the concepts that you have going on here. Keep up the good work.
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Pyrosity Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2008  Professional Digital Artist
It was just a fun idea, I didn't put much thought of practicality into it other than higher capacity. Thanks for the feedback though, didn't know a lot of those little bits of information :)
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werejaguar Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2008
yeah your welcome I just want to add a few more things for you because I like what you are doing with this theme here, there is a reason why no are after 1960 was even seen with lever actions. In real life, there too slow to reload in modern combat, the lever being to ackward for combat, the cartridges being, for the most part, too under powered. Don't get me wrong I love lever actions for many reasons, the histroy, cartridge capatability, the fact that they are perfect for hunting animals, and defending the home in my opinion, and also very reliable. It's just that for modern WWII combat to present they are not the best any more. I still like them, but that's life.
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Pyrosity Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2008  Professional Digital Artist
Yeah. I assume lever action is pretty similar to bolt-action - and while I've seen people cycling classic winchesters pretty damn fast I can understand how both lever and bolt action technology is simply going to be slower than an automatic.

I've recently been enjoying the appeal of lever actions (I used to think they were ugly as sin), especially because of the very different functions you have to take into account when working with lever action designs - that's the main reason I was playing with the drum magazine thing. It's a nice change of pace from the usual bolt action and I'm always interested in exploring new, unusual, and rare or uncommon ideas.

Just as an additional side note, in the fiction this lever action would mostly be used by troops and personnel that weren't on front-line combat. Primarily, the "Tunnelers", a group with the responsibility of guarding and maintaining underground tunnel networks. They'd be working in dirty conditions and need a reliable defence weapon for protection. If I ever do feel the need to look into a home defence weapon myself, I would definitely consider a lever action. My only gripe with them has been that the winchester I had the pleasure to fire at a local range was noticeably front-heavy, though I honestly can't be sure that is the norm for them.
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werejaguar Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2008
Yeah I understand where your coming from on this, when I was younger and me and my brothers and cousins would play soldiers we all pretended we had tommy guns and m-16s, its just that was all we knew at the time. Now I know better, everything in real life doesn't need full auto. There was an article in a gun magazine I read called anything but bolt actions. I forget the magazine's name, good article regaurdless. Also some advice about the drum mags, their are very few examples of their use in modern combat for a very good reason. Not only the noise, but the fact that they are very ackward and heavy. The heavy part is why in anything larger than 5.56cal they are used on mounted guns or they have others backing them up with reloading. When you get into pistol calibers (Ex. 45acp, 7.62x25) An individual can carry more rounds but they are still very heavy, and in most cases replaced with stick mags. The m249 SAW we are using is a special case. It's bordering both cases which explains why its still in use. any larger a caliber it would not be there. Finally for the winchester part, that depends on caliber you use usually. The bigger the round the more front heavy it gets, and also if someone has added a scope or messed with the buttstock. I actually pefer Marlins myself, I think they are able to put with abuse more from larger calibers.
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Pyrosity Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2008  Professional Digital Artist
Yeah, that makes sense. Just out of curiosity, any light reading you might recommend with information like what you're relaying now?
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werejaguar Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2008
Jane's gun recognition guide, Great books wonderful information in them. I would get the latest one though the first one had certian issues. That's been fixed now. The rest would be from various military combat histories that I have read and the theme that I get is that those that use weapons with drum magazines like the high capacity, but not the other problems that come with it.
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KodyYoung Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Great remodels of the gun's designs =D
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Pyrosity Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2008  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks :)
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CabooseRIF Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2008
Oh man, that drum is the coolest idea ever.
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Pyrosity Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2008  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks! It was inspired a bit by the Johnson rifle, the Garand's rival for Army standard circa WWII. I love that damn thing, if I could choose one WWII era rifle to own out of them all it'd be a close tie between the SMLE and Johnson :nod:
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imachrismoose Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2008  Hobbyist Writer
Cool! How many rounds in the drum magazine?
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Pyrosity Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2008  Professional Digital Artist
Probably around 50 or so rounds of .30-06

Thanks! :)
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imachrismoose Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2008  Hobbyist Writer
Doesn't really look big enough to hold that many .30-06. What's the cartridge diameter?
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Pyrosity Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2008  Professional Digital Artist
I only know so much about cartridges, so I must admit my previous response was a guess. Not sure how wide they'd be.
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imachrismoose Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2008  Hobbyist Writer
It's easy to find on wikipedia. Here's a [link] to the specific page.
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Pyrosity Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2008  Professional Digital Artist
Well, my problem's more with trying to visualize how the rounds could fit together in spaces like a drum mag.

How's 30 sound? I'm trying to gauge it based somewhat on the M1941 Johnson rifle; this design's drum would be a bit bigger in diameter than the Johnson's 10 round drum.
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imachrismoose Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2008  Hobbyist Writer
Dude, you don't visualize it, you have to calculate it. Tell me the diameter of the drum magazine and I can tell you how much ammunition it can hold of .30-06 bullets.
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Pyrosity Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2008  Professional Digital Artist
Okay, look... I don't mean to step on your toes here but this is getting a bit more technical than I care to dive into. I do not calculate my designs, I'm not an engineer. I study real world weaponry and apply that knowledge to my designs so that they appear feasible. If I do state specifications they are rough estimates and I do not have the time nor the inclination to precisely measure out each design's specifications properly. Now sure, if I were to do 3d models of them or a highly detailed perspective drawing or something to that nature I'd want to look into the technicalities, but most of these designs aren't going to go much further than these little side view sketches I do.

Sorry if that was a bit ranty, I just want to make my point clear.
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